Mineoro tests: What's really going on

[J_Player]

Proposed test #2...

To gain time, I suggested Carl to take Dell Winders with him since Dell know of places where gold exists.

Jewelry stores?

This suggests a good idea for a test: Take the FG80 outside a jewelry store and calibrate it. Then walk inside and see what kind of response you get. After taking notes on the readings, go to a Goodwill second hand store and repeat the procedure and see what kind of response you get. If the FG80 truly senses fresh gold, then it should go nuts in the jewelry store compared to how it responds in the Goodwill store. I wonder how the FG80 responds in the vicinity of Fort Knox?

[Dell Winders]

Take the FG80 outside a jewelry store and calibrate it. Then walk inside and see what kind of response you get.

Excellent idea. I can just see the silent alarms going off, Carl, surrounded by a SWAT team with guns drawn telling him to drop the Mineoro, and lay down on the floor. And Carl, taking an 80 year old woman hostage, pointing the Mineoro to the woman's head and ordering the Cops to back off, or he will ionize her. Dell

[hung]

Mineoro specifically claims that the FG80 will detect fresh gold. You specifically said, in this thread, that your FG80 would detect fresh gold.

Now you are changing your story.
My FG80 included a gold-colored plate. Tell me, Hung... what is this plate for? Just to look at?

I won't be repeating myself over and over again. Check my past posts. The answer is there.

Where are all these successful Mineoro users? Have them drop in, and show us all the recoveries.

They don't need to. Many are there in Mineoro site showing their findings. I met some.
The ones who are not, want to remain anonimous. In fact I invited some to join the forum. They declined saying that besides they are most of time too busy in the field, they think this forum is like a 'zoo'. I'm sorry.

This sounds exactly like the other LRL guys... "It doesn't work in bogus scientific tests, it will only work in the field."

Scientific tests...
Well, maybe you're right. There must be gold buried in your lab.

[hung]

Excellent idea. I can just see the silent alarms going off, Carl, surrounded by a SWAT team with guns drawn telling him to drop the Mineoro, and lay down on the floor. And Carl, taking an 80 year old woman hostage, pointing the Mineoro to the woman's head and ordering the Cops to back off, or he will ionize her. Dell

That's why it's worth to be around here!!!

[Esteban]

In via for to comprobe if I can pick up magnetically metals (only receiver absorptive type circuit), yes and found a silver coin dated 1798. Also other items. This circuit (magnetic field detector) is easy to build and I'm surprising that a simple absorptive circuit can detect at 10 meters this coin and other items as a big chandelier. So, the magnetic system wich use Mineoro can pick up metals (buried).

The theme is leave the chair and computer, make the experiments and go outside in free fields, is very but very different fresh metal than long time buried metals.

[Qiaozhi]

In via for to comprobe if I can pick up magnetically metals (only receiver absorptive type circuit), yes and found a silver coin dated 1798. Also other items. This circuit (magnetic field detector) is easy to build and I'm surprising that a simple absorptive circuit can detect at 10 meters this coin and other items as a big chandelier. So, the magnetic system wich use Mineoro can pick up metals (buried).

The theme is leave the chair and computer, make the experiments and go outside in free fields, is very but very different fresh metal than long time buried metals.

Now this is a variation on a theme. There is no claim here of ionic detection, although I remain skeptical that a magnetic field detector would be capable of detecting a coin at 10 metres. For instance, what magnetic field is being detected?
Can you post the circuit here? Then we can understand how this may be possible.

[Esteban]

No variations of the theme. Look that the Mineoro detectors contain a copper printed loop and this actuates in conjunction with the ionic chamber, so is a two detectors in one.

The magnetic field detector pick up metals buried for long time and maybe also the electric field around these. Good conductive metals "emits" some phenomenom I can't explain. Electric? Magnetic? Ionic? The combination of these?

[Carl-NC]

My FG80 included a gold-colored plate. Tell me, Hung... what is this plate for?

[Qiaozhi]

My FG80 included a gold-colored plate. Tell me, Hung... what is this plate for?

Carl - I think you'll be mighty lucky if you ever get a sensible answer to this question.

[gaucho1961]

My friends,
I do not want to be the Devil's advocate defending the Mineoro, but, I have a DCH85, and with it I found many jewels and gold coins.
Frustration really exists to place the detector to work, made some experiences and today I know that some factors exist detector to function it well.
Low atmospheric pressure and one day bad, with loaded clouds for rain it is the certainty to make the ionic detectors to function correctly and satisfactory.
Logical that you need to have privacy with the detector and to make the certain regulations.
Forgives my English.

[mosha]

weather factors

hi gaucho1961

let us put some hints for the best wheater conditions to use mineoro,

1- atmospheric pressure must not be low.
2- cloudy sky ( I know when clouds build up the atmospheric become positive ionized befor rain).
some users in this forum say sunny day would be better for using mineoro

[hung]

hi gaucho1961

let us put some hints for the best wheater conditions to use mineoro,

1- atmospheric pressure must not be low.
2- cloudy sky ( I know when clouds build up the atmospheric become positive ionized befor rain).
some users in this forum say sunny day would be better for using mineoro

Those are topics which I discussed here many times, but apparently I'm writing chinese.
When it rains, the atmosphere which was electricaly positive charged prior to it, changes to negative which diminishes the amplitude of the ionic fields on earth if not quiting it momentarily.
This will affect distance of detection and size of target to be detected if it's a small ring for instance.
Bear in mind that if it's a big target, it could be raining, snowing, be night, dawn or day. It will be detected anyway although the extreme range of a sunny and dry day will dimish proportionally. I have already faced those situations

The other factor which also affects detection is humidity. The lower the better.
All of this is well explained in Mineoro's site. So no need to extend myself here.

The DCH 85 required 100% of ionic emanation to work. The FG only 25%.
Despite of that it was used to help find the Atocha's motherlode.

[nelson]

Electro magnetic field detector

Hi Esteban.
About this divice on the picture, is possible to have the circuit?
Also, do you know if a comercial EFD can be modified to get those electromagnetic fields from under ground? May be i can add a loop sensor to it, so i can amplified the signal.
Regards
Nelson

In via for to comprobe if I can pick up magnetically metals (only receiver absorptive type circuit), yes and found a silver coin dated 1798. Also other items. This circuit (magnetic field detector) is easy to build and I'm surprising that a simple absorptive circuit can detect at 10 meters this coin and other items as a big chandelier. So, the magnetic system wich use Mineoro can pick up metals (buried).

The theme is leave the chair and computer, make the experiments and go outside in free fields, is very but very different fresh metal than long time buried metals.

[Esteban]

The DCH 85 works in similar manner to other Mineoro detectors. The DCH 86 has a real metal detector type BFO. This both detectors maybe works better with charged clouds, OK, this is the same info I provide when I wrote recently regarding that the fine rain helps the detection and actuates as a "bridge". Also we built a high voltage metal detector (15,000 - 20,000, TV flyback) and the high voltage electric lines improve the detection. This is, a natural or artificial phenomenom are good or bad, depending in WICH system is based the sensor.

Read about my experience with fine rain in Real Ion Detection thread:

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=12723

[Esteban]

HV type

High voltage lines helps this kind of detector: