Mineoro tests: What's really going on

[Qiaozhi]

Those are topics which I discussed here many times, but apparently I'm writing chinese.

[gaucho1961]

Mosha,
If you have a Detector of this model, make the test in the conditions that I mentioned, and will have success with the detector.
Low the atmospheric pressure and loaded clouds are essential to function correctly and to have good resulted.
I do not want to be the owner of the truth, nor to criticize the opinions of the colleagues but, they are these atmospheric conditions that better I had resulted, in a research I found 32 currencies (9 of gold and 23 of silver) in one to 90cm of depth.
I always make test with the DCH85 before travelling, bind the detector and approach to fluorescent lamp or of a television, it ions will have to whistle when catching.
The use of a Barometer is interesting, so that it can follow the atmospheric pressure.
It thinks well, if the use of these detectors was easy, would not have more nothing to discover, science and the technology still has its limitations in relation when weater.
It makes the test in these conditions and later it returns its commentary here in fórum, appositive that it goes to surprise.

Forgives my English

In annex photos of another invention, that I want to argue in another occasion.
Electronic Pendulum.

[gaucho1961]

Another,

I live close to Mineoro, 50 km, and can take off doubts with the technician who makes the assembly of detectors, it is my friend..

[gaucho1961]

Very good Qiaozhi...

My Hung friend is speaking in Chinese!
And very well, therefore all understand it... Hahahahahah!!!!!
He is that nobody seems to give attention in that it is speaking, and it is speaking certain...

[mosha]

DC2008

thank you gaucho1961

I have DC2008, I do not know if it work same as the principle of DCH85, but I will concidre your advices and hungs' as well.

hung;

我能理解中國人也.

[hung]

Hey gaucho, I'll include you in my next expedition. But only if you serve me a good 'chimarrão' to drink.

Mosha, as I said, it's just a matter of time before you or any Mineoro detector owner find gold. But bear in mnd you need hard work. If you don't ever go to the field, don't expect to find anything. So don't be an 'armchair researcher'.
Just to encourage you. I know 2 people who own DC2008s and both are sucessful. One of them is my friend here in Brazil. He lives close to the beach in the northeast region. In this beach, in a particular spot in a shallow pond naturally built with salt water, the DC always gave insistent beeps. He decided to dive there and he found 20 (!) gold rings lost during a long period of time. That's what I call a true treasure ring (beach)...

[Qiaozhi]

thank you gaucho1961

I have DC2008, I do not know if it work same as the principle of DCH85, but I will concidre your advices and hungs' as well.

hung;

我能理解中國人也.

In that case, try this ->

[gaucho1961]

Qiaozhi,

It translates into English...
I am curious....Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Great Hung friend,
Is clearly that I go to serve a good CHIMARRÃO (drink tipical of the south of Brazil), folloied of a good CHURRASCO (tipical food, barbecue)...
Where I dig????... where I dig?????? here???? here??????
I believe that only thus I could be together in this expedition... Hahahahaha!!

[Qiaozhi]

It translates into English...
I am curious....Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Great Hung friend,
Is clearly that I go to serve a good CHIMARRÃO (drink tipical of the south of Brazil), folloied of a good CHURRASCO (tipical food, barbecue)...
Where I dig????... where I dig?????? here???? here??????
I believe that only thus I could be together in this expedition... Hahahahaha!!

You wrote "I am also able to understand Chinese people." - although you used traditional characters. But you are unable to read my reply?
I suspect Babel Fish was at work here...

[mosha]

google

In that case, try this ->

well Qiaozhi, if you want me to comunicate with you chinese, write in text not image so I can translate by google

[Qiaozhi]

well Qiaozhi, if you want me to comunicate with you chinese, write in text not image so I can translate by google

As I suspected...
Mei guanxi. You can even use pinyin if you like.

[Carl-NC]

Experiment #3.

I have a signal generator with a frequency range of 300kHz - 2GHz. In addition, it can apply AM & FM modulation to the signal. I connected the output to a crude dipole antenna and held the FG80 about a foot away, with sensitivity set to 300.

I started at 1MHz and increased the frequency up to 100MHz in 1MHz increments. There was no response. Knowing that 100MHz is in the middle of the FM radio band, I enabled FM modulation, with no response. Out of curiosity, I switched to AM modulation, and the FG80 responded at a very close range (an inch or so). I then adjusted the carrier frequency until I found a peak sensitivity at 235 MHz, where the FG80 would respond at a distance of 21 inches. As soon as AM modulation was removed, the FG80 ceased to respond.

I continued up in frequency and found a much larger peak at 295 MHz, where detection was easily 4 feet. Other minor peaks occurred at 480MHz and 730MHz, where detection was 15-20 inches. In all cases, detection distance varied with sensitivity setting, and only when AM was enabled.

This test shows that the FG80 easily detects a 295MHz AM signal. What is special about this frequency? It turns out that 295MHz is commonly used for remote controls, such as garage door openers. Furthermore, these remote controls commonly use ASK (amplitude shift keying), which is nothing more than amplitude modulation.

This kind of detection is not something that easily happens by accident. The FG80 must have a circuit that is optimally tuned to 295MHz, must have an AM detector that triggers the beeper, and the sensitivity of this detector must be under the control of the FG80's sensitivity knob. All of this points to the deliberate design of an AM receiver circuit.

Though I have yet to open the FG80, I previously reported that inside a PDC205 I found a regenerative receiver circuit connected to a PCB loop antenna. This is precisely the kind of circuit that can be used to receive AM signals.

- Carl

[Esteban]

The Mineoro loop is connected to a primary of a toroidal core (1 or 2 turns of simple cable) and secondary coil tune in the khz region. The correct way for to appreciate in wich frequency it is tune is connecting a simple coil to a low frequency generator:

[hung]

Well, looks like Carl is still playing with his toy like a kid.

Just an advice for him. When ( and if ) he does decide to research in the field, make sure to do it between 9 and 11 AM and from 2 till 6 PM. Those are the best times for detecting when the phenomena happens the most.

Crespin dos Santos told me a couple of weeks ago he and his team had to wait from 8 AM till 10 AM, resting under a tree for the phenomena to manifest so he could mark the exact spot they had detected days before.
By the way, I tried to reach him yesterday to get some more inputs about his use of the FG80 with GIG for fresh gold, but I was told he traveled to Santa Catarina to locate gold for a contractor. So, I don't know wheter I'll be around when he gets back as I will soon leave for a recovery procedure and a research on another location.

Hey Esteban, I really admire your kind gesturesand concern for teaching those guys here.

[Qiaozhi]

Well, looks like Carl is still playing with his toy like a kid.

Eventually you've said it!
In your own words, it's a "toy".

This test shows that the FG80 easily detects a 295MHz AM signal. What is special about this frequency? It turns out that 295MHz is commonly used for remote controls, such as garage door openers. Furthermore, these remote controls commonly use ASK (amplitude shift keying), which is nothing more than amplitude modulation.

This kind of detection is not something that easily happens by accident. The FG80 must have a circuit that is optimally tuned to 295MHz, must have an AM detector that triggers the beeper, and the sensitivity of this detector must be under the control of the FG80's sensitivity knob. All of this points to the deliberate design of an AM receiver circuit.

And sure enough, here's just the device required to remotely trigger an FG80: http://www.contractorstools.com/sentex_clikcard.html
It works at either 295MHz or 303MHz. Not only that, but the receiver box even resembles a certain ionic detector. Perhaps this is where Mineoro got the idea in the first place.