Interesting Electroscope User Report

[hung]

I know where he can win an easy $25,000.

Maybe he does too. But without all the hype and games involved.

What, exactly, does the "electronic circuit" in the E-scope do? Since I know it's just a battery and a potentiometer

I've seen your report pictures and I'm sure there's more than that.

Yes, you've already clearly indicated your belief in pseudoscience nonsense.

Don't judge something you think you know based on what you don't know.

2 - Fact : Gold has to be more than 10 years old buried OR undisturbed for more than 10 years to be detectable. In this case, no need to be buried. Unless one of the above cases are present in a home environment, gold will not be detected.

Now why in the world would Mineoro include a sample that YOU say cannot possibly be detected? Or, am I expected to bury the gold plate, then wait 10 years to test the FG80? Either your claim is silly, or Mineoro's claim is silly... which one?

- Carl

Amazing how you still seem to confuse things so far...
Also, this is not the only past post which you should refer to. Dig and you find the same answer I will provide bellow.
I will say it for the last time because even I am tired of saying the same things involving Mineoro.
The FG80 was developed as an upgrade from previous models and also to be able to detect fresh gold at not so short a distance. With a PDC210 I get to pick my gold ring from only one inch from the ionic chamber. The FG80 allowed me to pick this same ring from about 10 feet one sunny day. I already told the case here. But this will only happen under special cisrcumstances such as hot weather, sunny day, low humidity. I tested the FG zillion of times in different manners and confirmed what is stated in Mineoro's site. But I agree the fresh gold marketing was a little exagerated as it's not possible all the time but still, it can be done. Mineoro launched the GIG to make this happen on a more regular basis.
For several times I placed a dehumidifier inside my closet and under controled environment I could detect the gold plate although from only 3 to 4 feet away. I don't see why you would not be able to reach the same results (no GIG involved).
But in order to detect long time buried gold in the field, one should turn the GIG off otherwise distance of detection and power to acomplish it will decrease dramatically. So the REGULAR way of detection (long range) wil be focused on gold which is more than 10 years buried.
In sum, everytime you go to the field and get a signal which is from far away, the distance picked is proportional to the target's mass and time buried.

[Qiaozhi]

http://www.mytempdir.com/1302870

Thanks Esteban! Now everything is easily readable.

However, with Kinetic Magnum Shields, Receptor Terminals, Particle Intensifiers and Separators, it all sounds a bit like Star Wars. Either that, or someone's having a laugh.

[Dell Winders]

I would like to hear on what "principle" you believe the Electroscope is based, since I know for an absolute fact it is nothing but a dowsing rod.

Yes. I think we could say it's a dowsing rod with an electronic circuit built inside in hope to maximize the dowsing potential. Principle would involve the basic dowsing phenomena, among other things radio frequency, plain wave and circular polarization of EM fields, not linear.

Carl, are you stating as fact that YOU are able to mentally control the Electroscope reactions thru the use of metaphysical, mind/
muscle ideomotor Dowsing response.??

PROVE IT! I don't think you can do that with the Electroscope. I think you are lieing. Dell

[Carl-NC]

I've seen your report pictures and I'm sure there's more than that.

Other people have independently verified my findings: there is no useful circuitry inside the E-scope; it is just a dowsing rod. And, if you still have doubts, you can look, and see for yourself.

Amazing how you still seem to confuse things so far...

It doesn't help that you keep changing your story.

But this will only happen under special cisrcumstances such as hot weather, sunny day, low humidity.

Today was bright & sunny, 80°F/26°C, rel. humidity at 20%. I set up the FG80 outside... tuned it up to barely quiet... independently and collectively tried a gold ring, the Mineoro "gold" sample, and my 10-ounce gold bar...

10 feet: nothing
1 foot: nothing
1 inch: nothing
touched the box: nothing.

This is very consistent with prior testing. To date, my FG80 has never once detected fresh gold, under any conditions.

- Carl

[Dell Winders]

Has the Mineoro detected buried targets?

[hung]

Other people have independently verified my findings: there is no useful circuitry inside the E-scope; it is just a dowsing rod. And, if you still have doubts, you can look, and see for yourself.

It doesn't help that you keep changing your story.

Today was bright & sunny, 80°F/26°C, rel. humidity at 20%. I set up the FG80 outside... tuned it up to barely quiet... independently and collectively tried a gold ring, the Mineoro "gold" sample, and my 10-ounce gold bar...

10 feet: nothing
1 foot: nothing
1 inch: nothing
touched the box: nothing.

This is very consistent with prior testing. To date, my FG80 has never once detected fresh gold, under any conditions.

- Carl

You are not calibrating it right.
Tune the knob until very sensitive in the region where it will start beeping. Then wait a little as the beeps will eventually cease. Now get your plate, ring whatever and pass it in front of the chamber from 2 to 3 feet for instance. It will beep. But sometimes it might not beep in the return movement. Then it will beep again if you repeat it. I could get it to work so YOU HAVE to get the same results. No drama.
If you own what used to be Ed Merril's unit, chances are it's working fine. Unless you have some other device with unknown origin.

This inconsistency was apparently remedied with the introduction of the GIG. A member of my team spent an entire afternoon in January with Damasio burying the plate in a lot of places and from an average distance which I don't recall right now, he was able fo find it everytime until later when sun disappeared and started to rain as the phenomena and the beeps ceased.

Questions:

1 - When you turn the unit on, does the LED light keep lit or not?
2 - Is there a small brass lead protruding from the front panel?
3 - Is the infrared sensor built in the chamber or under ir?

[Carl-NC]

Has the Mineoro detected buried targets?

Yes, it detects my dog fence when it's turned on, very consistently.

[hung]

Yes, it detects my dog fence when it's turned on, very consistently.

Being sarcastic here will be of no help to you. It just add more weight to my suspicions that you really don't wish to test anything. You understood very well what Dell meant.

[Carl-NC]

You are not calibrating it right.

Could be... I only followed the instructions.

Tune the knob until very sensitive in the region where it will start beeping. Then wait a little as the beeps will eventually cease.

Or, the beeps increase as the unit warms up. This is especially noticeable on a warm sunny day. In any case, I have tried backing off just until the beeping stops, as the manual instructs, but I have also tried advancing it slightly until I get occasional (random) beeps. Either way, there is no detection of the targets.

Now get your plate, ring whatever and pass it in front of the chamber from 2 to 3 feet for instance. It will beep. But sometimes it might not beep in the return movement.

It doesn't beep at all, at least in any correlation to the target. Oh, sure, I can tune the FG80 to get some random beeping, and every once in a great while one of those random beeps will occur as I sweep the target by, but there is no real correlation.

1 - When you turn the unit on, does the LED light keep lit or not?

The LED is in synch with the piezo.

2 - Is there a small brass lead protruding from the front panel?

No.

3 - Is the infrared sensor built in the chamber or under ir?

Under.

- Carl

[Carl-NC]

Being sarcastic here will be of no help to you. It just add more weight to my suspicions that you really don't wish to test anything. You understood very well what Dell meant.

I'm not being sarcastic... so far, that's the only buried target it's detected.

[hung]

Oh, sure, I can tune the FG80 to get some random beeping, and every once in a great while one of those random beeps will occur as I sweep the target by, but there is no real correlation.

Yes. There is correlation.

1 - When you turn the unit on, does the LED light keep lit or not?

The LED is in synch with the piezo.

2 - Is there a small brass lead protruding from the front panel?

No.

3 - Is the infrared sensor built in the chamber or under ir?

Under.

- Carl

OK.



I'll say it one more time. Go to the field with someone like Dell Winders. He probably knows many places where gold exists while you don't.
You still did not answer me this suggestion. What have you got to loose? On the contrary, you will be making THE REAL test for long time buried gold.
You are just postponing a simple procedure which could be short and brief.

[Qiaozhi]

I'll say it one more time. Go to the field with someone like Dell Winders. He probably knows many places where gold exists while you don't.

??? If this was true, then the "gold" would have already been recovered. If it hasn't, than how do you know it's even there?
Oh - I forgot. Dell probably "confirmed" the location with one of his own non-working devices.