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    Hi everyone:

    Today during my surf in the internet, i have found very interesting website

    http://www.futuretreasuresusa.com/metal_detectors.html

    for company that claims it`s manufacture LRL which are able to do the following:

    1-Search for a treasure in open field ( 2 Kilometers ) .
    2-Determine the treasure Center .
    3-Determine the excat Depth.

    4-Discrimintaion between: Gold, Diamond, Silver, Lead, Copper and Titanium.


    Did anyone have these instruments? do they work for real?


    Looking forward

    M o r r i S

  • #2
    Originally posted by Morris_jo View Post
    Hi everyone:

    Today during my surf in the internet, i have found very interesting website

    http://www.futuretreasuresusa.com/metal_detectors.html

    for company that claims it`s manufacture LRL which are able to do the following:

    1-Search for a treasure in open field ( 2 Kilometers ) .
    2-Determine the treasure Center .
    3-Determine the excat Depth.

    4-Discrimintaion between: Gold, Diamond, Silver, Lead, Copper and Titanium.


    Did anyone have these instruments? do they work for real?


    Looking forward
    You should post this question in the Remote Sensing Forum.

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    • #3
      letter to mfg.

      I just sent a letter to the MFG. requesting further literature,picure and price. The US rep. is in New York so I gave them my home address and will see. They did mention the "Beep Mat" which is very much a legimate unit made in Canada that is good for locating sulfides and costs around 6K I believe. Here's hoping.

      Randy

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Morris_jo View Post
        4-Discrimintaion between: Gold, Diamond, Silver, Lead, Copper and Titanium.
        When they claim to detect diamonds, that's usually a dead give-away.

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        • #5
          Good call

          Carl,

          Yeah your right, I didn't notice that as I skimmed through it. I can't stand text only ads and those are weird to say the least. Diamonds,oh geez. And my Father was a Jesuit Priest too (let's keep that last one quiet please).

          Randy

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          • #6
            When they claim to detect diamonds, that's usually a dead give-away.
            A dead giveaway to What?
            "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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            • #7
              Hello,

              I wish if i could find some small Pieces of DIAMONDS ...


              Looking forward
              M o r r i S

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              • #8
                Hello,

                Since 3 years, i was very interested to buy a mineoro device, i thought it do magic through T.H , as you can find a treasure from a distance that may reach 800 meter, even to determine the depth and the center point to DIGG !!

                But for now, i am sure 100% it`s A very high techniques used in T.H SCAM, to fool PPL. and steal their money as piece of cake ....

                I wonder, Why all these Manuafactures or Companies or " Inventors " take alot of time, money, efforts, tests .... etc , after while they came up with a miracle " The Big scam Of LRL " !!!!

                I have found more than 50 LRL, all of them were adver. to be the best in the world due to capabilities in T.H, also they send you some pictures of what T.Hs fhad found with their devices ( Big Golden Treasures ) !!!

                Even the real scam device, you have the fake pictures of treasures that they had recovered !!!

                To all the forum members , i need answer for my question:

                Is there is any posibility in science to make a real metals LRL ?


                Looking forward
                M o r r i S

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                • #9
                  Just thought I would stop by and coment...

                  Originally posted by Morris_jo View Post
                  Hello,

                  Since 3 years, i was very interested to buy a mineoro device, i thought it do magic
                  That's the problem. You don't want a Long range metal detector. You want vodoo. For this try their forum. You may be lucky there and win as a bounus a device which will also dig for you outside while you remain at home watching Indiana Jones DVDs.



                  I have found more than 50 LRL, all of them were adver. to be the best in the world due to capabilities in T.H, also they send you some pictures of what T.Hs fhad found with their devices ( Big Golden Treasures ) !!!
                  You show all your inexperience in the sentence above. First it's not the manufacturers who find gold, It's the users who work hard in the field for this to happen.
                  Also take my word. Detection is the easiest part of all. Digging and recovery depending on the location (which most of the time has terrible conditions) is the important part and don't even compare in terms of EXTREME difficulty and hard work. Or you think the people who hid their values placed this on a tray ready to be delivered?
                  Add to this, treasure found in private lands, trouble to deal with the owner, discovery leaked attracting people to the site AND the high possibility of bandits shows up which would involve violence, etc. and etc. and etc.

                  Even the real scam device, you have the fake pictures of treasures that they had recovered !!!
                  Yes. We must be careful.
                  Maybe we have fake jobs, a fake house, a fake wife... Hey we might even be 'fakes' too..



                  Is there is any posibility in science to make a real metals LRL ?


                  Looking forward
                  I really think you would experience enough amusing just by reading treasure hunting books. Not 'living' it by yourself.

                  'Many are called. But only a few chosen'. (thank God)
                  Regards.
                  "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                  • #10
                    By the way, the link above belongs to Knouzm as well. They have new devices.


                    Fun isn't it? Do those devices work? I don't know, but it should.
                    Also take some time and check the new toys at left.
                    It seems this Laser/Infrared technology is being evolved by them since the DIS300. Well, if it did not work they would not be investing on them...
                    This apparently confirms what I have been discovering about them.

                    Now, who will be the first one to buy these toys and tell us how it goes?
                    Doe it have to be Carl all the time?
                    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                    • #11
                      how do a detector tell a $1 from $100

                      Most if not all LRL i know don't work. why not have professional testing test and report on LRL.
                      Why not send one to LostTreasures and have them test it.
                      The thing it to have an out side firm test and report on this stuff.
                      At this time from what i Know a LRL will not work at this time.
                      If Carl and I and and and and every one I know can't get it to work.
                      But with a metal detector a 6 year old can get it to work.
                      So at this time I see the LRL thing as a SCAM to ME.
                      I hope someone can prove me wrong
                      ONE THING I DO KNOW IS CARL IS NOT A DUMMIE
                      WHY CAN'T HE MAKE A SO CALL REAL LRL WORK
                      HE WOULD BE TH FIRST ONE TO SING A SONG ON IT
                      Last edited by Clondike Clad; 05-04-2007, 02:26 PM. Reason: more info

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                      • #12
                        Although I don't find most LRL's to be as they are advertised, I have experienced some sort reaction from most every LRL I have field tested.

                        Carl, on the other hand claims none of them work at all, at the same time other people experience success in their use. Certainly, any intelligent person should wonder why he would try to contridict fact?

                        This is not rocket science technology. Any idiot can take a few screws loose, open up an LRL, take a picture, and claim it can't possibly work. Even me. It requires no knowledge of the subject or field experience of any kind. Just an agenda.

                        Until Carl, conducts extensive field testing of the products he reports about, he is being dis-honest. Unfortunately, being untruthful is a habitual way of life for Carl. He appears unable to help himself.

                        Carl's, own ficticous claims ranks along side the ficticous, or exaggerated advertising claims made by some LRL manufacturers. Two wrongs don't make a right.

                        Yes, it would be nice if there was an unbiased, non-prejudiced scientist that was conducting actual field studies based on fact, and NOT on assumption, or using a cheap advertising gimmick challenge to promote themselves and their agenda.

                        Regretably, there are no real Scientist conducting LRL studies. Only untruthful scientific Pretenders. Dell
                        "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                        • #13
                          Expensive toys

                          Before you invest any money on long range locators, consider these facts:

                          1. There is no person on earth who is willing to demonstrate any long range locator working in front of witnesses to recover treasure today. Hung makes a lot of talk about how well the Mineoro and other LRL machines work, But he has never demonstrated any Mineoro machine working to recover treasures in front of consumers who would like to see them work before buying one. And Dell Winders is a manufacturer of long range locators who canceled his plans to attend a treasure show when he learned that an engineer would be there giving seminars in treasure hunting technology. Dell refuses to demonstrate any of the equipment he manufactures recovering any treasure in front of witnesses or consumers who would like to see them recover treasure. He is only interested in telling stories of great treasures found in the past with his machines as long as you cannot verify that this machines work before buying them.

                          2. If you read the large treasure hunting forums like Find's, Treasure Depot, Treasure Net, etc, you will find thousands of forum posts made by people who show photos of the treasures they found today. You will not find any posts of treasures found by people using LRLs. You will only find posts from people who use metal detectors and other machines like you read about in other sections of this forum. The only place you find stories about treasure from a LRL is from somebody selling a LRL. People like Hung and Dell winders are either LRL manufacturers or associated with LRL manufacturers, and have a vested interest in convincing people to pay money for these machines. Hung has posted in this forum that his team does testing for the Mineoro factory.

                          3. The overwhelming consensus of people interested in treasure hunting is that LRLs are a scam and they don't work. You can verify this fact by asking if LRLs work in any treasure hunting forum and look at the answers you get. While LRLs don't locate treasure as advertised, they truly are able to locate treasure from long distances by causing people all over the world to send money to the manufacturer.

                          4. I know of one long range locator that works, and has found gold, copper, oil, and other geological formations from miles away. This locator is installed in satellites that NASA has been putting into orbit since the 1970s. It is not particularly useful for finding nuggets and coins, but works very well for finding ore deposits and oil deposits. The inventor made a number of hand-held versions to be used on foot or in a vehicle. You can read more about it here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ghlight=bickel

                          This machine is no longer manufactured for civilian use, but the used models are selling for about $15,000 US if you can find one. They are highly prized by oil companies and mining companies who still use them today.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                            Although I don't find most LRL's to be as they are advertised, I have experienced some sort reaction from most every LRL I have field tested.

                            Carl, on the other hand claims none of them work at all, at the same time other people experience success in their use. Certainly, any intelligent person should wonder why he would try to contridict fact?

                            This is not rocket science technology. Any idiot can take a few screws loose, open up an LRL, take a picture, and claim it can't possibly work. Even me. It requires no knowledge of the subject or field experience of any kind. Just an agenda.

                            Until Carl, conducts extensive field testing of the products he reports about, he is being dis-honest. Unfortunately, being untruthful is a habitual way of life for Carl. He appears unable to help himself.

                            Carl's, own ficticous claims ranks along side the ficticous, or exaggerated advertising claims made by some LRL manufacturers. Two wrongs don't make a right.

                            Yes, it would be nice if there was an unbiased, non-prejudiced scientist that was conducting actual field studies based on fact, and NOT on assumption, or using a cheap advertising gimmick challenge to promote themselves and their agenda.

                            Regretably, there are no real Scientist conducting LRL studies. Only untruthful scientific Pretenders. Dell
                            More fodder for the Dell Winder's crybaby thread

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                              A dead giveaway to What?
                              A scam, of course. What else?

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