Advanced LRL from U.S.A

[hung]

My circuit is not directed at you, personally. It's a way of objectively testing whether or not anyone can really detect the so-called signal line that so many people believe exists. And there are a lot of people who believe it exists, not just you.
- Carl

Oh sure. Your circuit will determine signal lines don't exist, of course. Then you might sell it to NASA, eh?
What's your next step? Building a EVP device to prove they don't capture other dimensional sounds? Sounds good, don't you think? (No pun intended)

Carl, I have to confess. Dell is right in many things he says about you.

[Carl-NC]

The purpose of this circuit is to objectively test for an ability that many people claim to have. That ability does not exist. It is merely a trick of the mind and these people are self-deceived.

Do you oppose objective experiments that demonstrate all of these signal line claims are misguided and wasted efforts? Or do you think that these claims should be blindly accepted? What is the best path toward designing products that really work?

Either Dell is right, or I am right. I will be at the Treasure Expo, with hard evidence to back up my claims. Dell will be at home behind the computer, calling me names. Everyone can decide for themselves who has credibility, and who does not.

- Carl

[Carl-NC]

Carl are you going to post your circuit so we can build it.

Absolutely. In fact, I will build several myself, and provide them as free loaners to anyone who wants to experiment with them.

I discovered last night that I need to order a couple of components, so it will be a few days before I wrap this up.

Meanwhile I've won off ebay some fairly strong radioactive rocks that I plan on using for the Compton scattering with my lowly Gamma detector. I'm going to connect up my O'scope to the output to see if there's a pulse differance between gold and any other metal. Trying to duplicate Armin Bickels machine if you will. If you have any suggestions along these lines I sure would like to hear it as I am not an engineer.

Not quite sure what you are doing... putting gold between the rock & the detector? How radioactive are the rocks?

- Carl

[Qiaozhi]

Oh sure. Your circuit will determine signal lines don't exist, of course. Then you might sell it to NASA, eh?
What's your next step? Building a EVP device to prove they don't capture other dimensional sounds? Sounds good, don't you think? (No pun intended)

Carl, I have to confess. Dell is right in many things he says about you.

More of your nonsense Hung?
EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) hahahah! Whatever next?
Does this have anything to do with treasure hunting? Absolutely not - unless you're thinking of doing some transdimensional detecting. Blimey, that would be "long range".
Poor misguided Hung.

[hung]

The purpose of this circuit is to objectively test for an ability that many people claim to have. That ability does not exist. It is merely a trick of the mind and these people are self-deceived.

Do you oppose objective experiments that demonstrate all of these signal line claims are misguided and wasted efforts? Or do you think that these claims should be blindly accepted? What is the best path toward designing products that really work?

Either Dell is right, or I am right. I will be at the Treasure Expo, with hard evidence to back up my claims. Dell will be at home behind the computer, calling me names. Everyone can decide for themselves who has credibility, and who does not.

- Carl

I already warned you about prejudgements. Instead of performing research to know wheter one thing is true or not, you deliberately do things in hope to support your own thoughts and opinions. This is not scientific at all.
In the case above, your circuit or whatever, is built to disclaim signal lines. So in your own 'conclusions', your circuit wil do it correctly no matter what.

Sorry, this alone would bring no credibility at all to the game, although you may think the opposite.

[Qiaozhi]

I already warned you about prejudgements. Instead of performing research to know wheter one thing is true or not, you deliberately do things in hope to support your own thoughts and opinions. This is not scientific at all.
In the case above, your circuit or whatever, is built to disclaim signal lines. So in your own 'conclusions', your circuit wil do it correctly no matter what.

Sorry, this alone would bring no credibility at all to the game, although you may think the opposite.

For once in Hung's misguided existence, he has made a valid point. It is up to the believer in signal lines to prove that they exist. It is not the role of the non-believer to prove they don't exist. However, in this case, it is highly commendable of Carl to take the initiative, as the believers such as Hung and Dell are either unable, unwilling, or incapable of providing the required evidence. With the current situation, skeptics can quite rightly say that the signal lines do not exist, since there is no proof.
Now's your chance Hung to prove your mental superiority to the world. Build a device that conclusively proves that signal lines exist, and then post the details here for anyone to duplicate. That's what Carl is planning to do. Now it's your turn. Otherwise, put up or shutup.

[Clondike Clad]

I would like a loner

I would like to test and post my finding I would need setup info so i can use and post my findings.
I WILL POST ONLY WHAT I FIND NO TRICKS ETC.
IF I CAN'T GET IT TO WORK I WILL POST ThAT AS WELL.
I will also use it at other locations and use the same set up.
Carl will you start a new post for testing your circuit and we who get the loners can post on that as well.
NOW ON WITH THE TESTING

[Morris_jo]

Hello everyone,

It`s a very hot subject to discuss here, i had missed alot of arguments regarding LRL .

I have a stupied idea about testing a Mineoro LRL, it would be helpfull to provide a real test field of the Great FG80 !

As you all know, Carl have right now his own Fg80, also i think Hung too, Why don`t they perform a live test that to be recorded Live Video as a real test field of LRL .!

It`s very simple, Digg 2 holes with different depth (30cm/60cm), use a gold objects like: rings ... what ever they like ? and let someone hold the cam .

There is many websites you would like to upload the test field for free as i think, like: www.youtube.com .

May be this will put dots on letters ....


looking forward

[Carl-NC]

It`s very simple, Digg 2 holes with different depth (30cm/60cm), use a gold objects like: rings ... what ever they like ? and let someone hold the cam .

According to Hung, you would have to wait 10 years after burying the targets in order for the FG80 to detect them.

There's always an alibi...

- Carl

[Morris_jo]

Hello Carl,

10 Years

[Morris_jo]

Hello Carl,

10 Years

[J_Player]

10 years..?? WHAT..?!!

We need to wait for 10 years for buried gold to be detected with the FG80?? WHAT!!

I thought Hung assured us the FG80 would detect gold in air. Doesn't FG stand for "Fresh Gold? Or is it a bogus fraudulent claim that the FG80 can detect fresh gold? Didn't Hung tell us that the FG78, FG78.1, and the FG80 can detect fresh gold? This is no alibi. Did Hung lie to us, or did he decide to change his story because the facts proved he was wrong?

from page: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?t=11454

..Remember, for the fresh gold to be picked up by the new FG, that is, gold which is not buried, humidity has to be low, around 40 to 60%.

from page: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11454&page=2

The FG 78 with humidity of around 58 to 60% marked a gold sample in air from around 9 to 10 meters. The FG 80 which culminates all the technology Mineoro always pursue marked 100 meters!

from page: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11392&page=5

Just to make it clear. Every Mineoro detector finds gold. The only thing makes the FG different from models prior to 2006 is that not only it will find long time buried gold as the others but its power of detection is more advanced and now it finds fresh gold. eg. the gold ring you are using right now. Provided the weather conditions permit it.

from page: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11046&page=3

the new Mineoro sensation and believe me, it will blow every detector in existence right now for sure, is the soon to be released FG 78.1, it will pick up gold of every type, not only long time buried, but Mineoro's concept of ionic field detection got so advanced that this detector will pick up fresh gold as well.

rom page: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11046&page=4

Fact is that in tests the FG78.1 got the astonishing mark of detecting 1 mm square of gold at 1 meter! It's astounding. Damasio told me that the new model is not prone to weather electrical discharges, in fact they even can help detetion if not sequential.. Also now the user can research at night with no apparent problems.

Hmmmm... seems like now that Carl has an FG80 in his hands, Hung cannot explain how to get it to detect fresh gold anymore. Is he denying it will detect fresh gold now? What will happen when we test the FG80 on a gold target that is known to be buried for over 10 years? Will he change his story again and say the FG80 does not find gold buried over 10 years?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .. we beleive your stories, Hung. Really!

[Qiaozhi]

Hi J Player,

Yes - sometimes things can come back and bite you!
Good old Hung.

It's quotes like this that also make me laugh:

Think.
If the Mineoro unit was waterproof, why would I carry a Excalibur onboard?
I detected the site from a distance and used the excalibur to dive in the location the Mineoro marked.

"... I detected the site from a distance ..." and it was underwater. Apparently the gold ions are not affected by the "extremely" humid conditions surrounding an underwater treasure.

[Rudy]

Hi J Player,

Yes - sometimes things can come back and bite you!
Good old Hung.

It's quotes like this that also make me laugh:



"... I detected the site from a distance ..." and it was underwater. Apparently the gold ions are not affected by the "extremely" humid conditions surrounding an underwater treasure.

Good catch Qiaozhi. I hadn't noticed that before. Maybe it was dry water.

[J_Player]

Heretics...

"... I detected the site from a distance ..." and it was underwater. Apparently the gold ions are not affected by the "extremely" humid conditions surrounding an underwater treasure.

Good catch Qiaozhi. I hadn't noticed that before. Maybe it was dry water.

You must be careful when making such bold inferences. Are you aware that you are opening yourself to severe criticism from the high priest of Mineoro? Did you actually test the surrounding water with a digital hygrometer to determine the exact relative humidity where the treasure was located?

With such negligent lack of "scientific proof" that the submerged coins were not in a dry liquid, you run a real risk of being ex-communicated from the church of Mineoro!