Magnacast 5000

[fenixdigger]

I forgot to mention this. The codes for the Examiner on gold are for nugget type gold. I can find electroplated gold easy if it's 22ct or up. Coins being a mixture seems to cause the problems with all the lrl units. I hear of a lot more bars found than coins. a little tweaking will end this problem. Here again it's like the bandwidth problem. The last trip out I missed 30 lbs of gold by 75 ft. I got sidetracked by a signal from a much larger target. I took the size to 500,000 grams and still had the signal. I figured I was screwing up and left. Came back in a week and found a nice empty hole. Going back next week, the other signal is still there. LT

[Jim]

They will locate treasure. They will also locate brass and very old iron while on the gold freq. A lot of my sites have both.

These units you have appear to be defective, as they are not discriminating the molecules properly. The frequency for gold is not shared by/with brass and very old iron.

[Mike(Mont)]

The Examiner is not in the same class as MFD/HID units. I see this has turned into another thread highjacking. Please have a little courtesy and take it to another thread.

[fenixdigger]

Good point Mike. As I am looking at the magnacast due to the pick up gun. Not a wind affected type reaction. I understand why you added the pot, to the circuit, finer control. One of my function generators has that. I wonder if that gun would work with one of my units? That would be fun to try with the 300 watt amp hooked up.
I have a rife generator that will put out up to 5 freqs. at the same time. Have had some interesting results with it. Never ran it with the amp. May try that this weekend. LT

[J_Player]

Very well explained J_P. And probably the only real working method for (reasonable) remote searching.

All other methods are for todays MD reality only out of planetary theoretising, dreams or delusions. If they are sold it is about scam.

If a person is interested in learning how to really find metals under the ground using VLF, it might be good to listen to people who can demonstrate success with this method.
Here is a page that shows a summary of VLF surveying for metal, published by a reputable earth sciences university. Take note of the technical details they mention.
These are the same principles that geologists and technicians use when locating metal under the ground: http://www.eos.ubc.ca/ubcgif/iag/fou.../vlf-notes.htm


Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Good point Mike. As I am looking at the magnacast due to the pick up gun. Not a wind affected type reaction. I understand why you added the pot, to the circuit, finer control. One of my function generators has that. I wonder if that gun would work with one of my units? That would be fun to try with the 300 watt amp hooked up.
I have a rife generator that will put out up to 5 freqs. at the same time. Have had some interesting results with it. Never ran it with the amp. May try that this weekend. LT

The scan gun is a directional receiver antenna. I hold it pointed down at the ground and walk across the signal line sort of like using an L-rod. If you want to hook up an antenna to your Rife machine, I don't know what would work with five frequencies. The transmitting coil appears to be wire wrapped around a rectangular frame. Remember a coil antenna is basically a capacitor.You could try some fine magnet wire and try to get a quarter wave length assuming you have a high enough frequency. I've read the Magnacast runs in the 400 MHz range but can't say for sure. I don't have a frequency counter that goes high enough to register. 300 watts seems like you might be violating some FCC laws. Like I said, most MFD type units run a very small amounts of power and I assume this is for some reason. I've heard the signal line will sort of burn into the ground and not dissapate for days if too much power is used. Don't know this for a fact, but I have experienced a residual effect on some days. The instructions on the Magnacst say to turn off the transmitter for fifteen minutes before moving to a new position. My experience has shown this to be true. The signal line will not be on target.

[Qiaozhi]

Remember a coil antenna is basically a capacitor.

Is it really?
Please explain...

[Theseus]

Is it really?
Please explain...

I expect you've heard of "the new math".

Perhaps this is Mike's push for "the new theory of antennas and wave propagation".

[Jim]

The Examiner is not in the same class as MFD/HID units. I see this has turned into another thread highjacking. Please have a little courtesy and take it to another thread.

It is not? Which MFD/HID class is the Examiner in?

I don't see how talking about LRLs in a LRL thread is hijacking

[Mike(Mont)]

fenixdigger, if you get one let me know. I have a couple techniques that I really like.

[fenixdigger]

Hi guys; Just got back from a quick hunt. Went to get permission to look and the guy said , I'll open the gate and you can drive back there. A line of trees was blocking the 20 mph wind there, so I went. The Examiner locked and I pinpointed a spot. Got the Minelab and it yelled and the number for gold came up on the meter. Dug down about 10 inches and saw gold. It was a piece of metal with gold leaf on it. Well I'm happy but not a lot. That's how it works. you find gold. Wasn't what I wanted, but it was gold.
Now I'm hoping that with a magnacast, I might be able to knock this out. Is that a possibility or would it lock on this also? Thanks,LT

[Mike(Mont)]

If you are lookng for small items, you are going to get some gold plated stuff, too. I don't know any way around that. The AQC can be set AFTER you locate a signal line for 0 - 4 ounces or 0 - 4 pounds. These numbers are not exact. Things like magnetic soil, sulfides, etc. are going to reduce the efficiency. I have found that surface targets also have an effect of about twice what the dial is set at. Example: a one-half ounce gold target on the surface is going to be picked up even when the AQC dial is set at about one ounce -- at least in the soil I work in. This is also exaggerated when you are working at a long distance. It's going to be more accurate if you are working within fifty feet.

You bring up a good point. The MFD/HID units are not guaranteed to find treasure. Some people want to believe otherwise. They get their mind made up that a treasure is nearby and if they don't find it the device is to blame. Over optimism is as bad as skepticism. When a person gets unrealistic ideas it is like a manic depressant --the let-down is too much to handle. I don't know if you remember the story about the guy who had a two-box metal detector. He dug down about fifty feet before the neighbors called the police. Best to do your research first.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi guys; Just got back from a quick hunt. Went to get permission to look and the guy said , I'll open the gate and you can drive back there. A line of trees was blocking the 20 mph wind there, so I went. The Examiner locked and I pinpointed a spot. Got the Minelab and it yelled and the number for gold came up on the meter. Dug down about 10 inches and saw gold. It was a piece of metal with gold leaf on it. Well I'm happy but not a lot. That's how it works. you find gold. Wasn't what I wanted, but it was gold.
Now I'm hoping that with a magnacast, I might be able to knock this out. Is that a possibility or would it lock on this also? Thanks,LT

Why don't you just continue using the Minelab? That appears to be working perfectly.

[fenixdigger]

Hi; Make no mistake, every time I go out, the Minelab goes. It will get a drink can @ 4 ft. The field I was in was around 10 acres. Took less than 15 min. to find the spot to put the Minelab. There are 2 words that are the best reason to use a locator like a magnacast or Examiner,,,STACK'S AUCTION. LT

Here's a picture of the field, the located spot, and the Minelab/w battery bag

[hung]

Well I'm happy but not a lot. That's how it works. you find gold. Wasn't what I wanted, but it was gold.

Why not? Did you set the examiner for another frequency other than gold and ended up finding gold instead of the seeked metal?

I think you don't need the Minelab at all. Specially for small targets deeper than 6 inches. The examiner can perfectly pinpoint the location, however some people feel more confortable using one of these toy MDs for final pinpointing. This is only a psychological factor.

Art, for instance is an expert pinpointer with the Examiner and already has taught his MD to swim as he said.
I, for my part have taught my Minelab to skyjump since he already knew how to swim. Unfortunately that was not a good lesson and today he is half ruined... oh well..