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  • #61
    .....


    Seden,WD6ELU
    "YU1ASB to WD6ELU CQ CQ CQ...."

    Medium Frequencies (300kHz-3MHz)
    The only amateur medium-frequency band is situated just above the domestic AM broadcast band.
    Ground wave provides reliable communication out to 150 km (90 mi) or during the day, when no
    other form of propagation is available. Long-distance paths are made at night via the F2 layer.
    To tell you the truth i never worked on this...Pitty!
    1.8-2.0 MHz (160 m)
    The top band, as it is sometimes called, suffers from extreme daytime D-layer absorption.
    Even at high radiation angles, virtually no signal can pass through to the F layer, so
    daytime communication is limited to ground-wave coverage. At night, the D layer quickly
    disappears and worldwide 160-m communication becomes possible via F2-layer skip. Atmospheric
    and man-made noise limit propagation.Tropical and midlatitude thunderstorms cause high levels
    of static in summer, making winter evenings the best time to work DX at 1.8 MHz. A proper
    hoice of receiving antenna can often significantly reduce the amount of received noise while
    enhancing desired signals.
    We have rig in local club but i do not have time to go there oftenly....Also no conditions to
    put beam in backyard...stupid reason but true!
    I usually work on my 80m....3.737 and 3.725...when at home.Preparing shaft for next season...
    Right now i am far away from home and must stay until 09/2007.
    In local we are using 145.4MHz....and R2,R3 and R7+...QL6WU works excellent! Although i prefer
    "Slim Jim" due verical polarisation...not located well..any GP would do the job i suppose.
    But there is 50MHz band very popular lately in my country...Intend to make transceivier when
    have some spare time...i guess in winter...I also have CB FM/AM...but this band almost abandoned
    here in Serbia...Pitty!

    FOR "BELEIVERS" TO READ VERY CAREFULLY !!! (ESTEBAN JUST READ THIS)
    Noise
    Many unintentional radio emissions result from man-made sources. Broadband radio signals are
    produced whenever there is a spark, such as in contact switches, electric motors, gasoline
    engine spark plugs and faulty electrical connections. Household appliances, such as fluorescent
    lamps, microwave ovens, lamp dimmers and anything containing an electric motor may all produce
    undesirable broadband radio energy. Devices of all sorts, especially computers and anything
    controlled by microprocessors,television receivers and many other electronics also emit radio
    signals that may be perceived as noise well into the UHF range. In many cases, these sources
    are local and can be controlled with proper measures.
    High-voltage transmission lines and associated equipment, including transformers, switches and
    lightning arresters, can generate high-level radio signals over a wide area, especially if they
    are corroded or improperly maintained. Transmission lines may act as efficient antennas at some
    frequencies, adding to the noise problem. Certain kinds of street lighting, neon signs and
    industrial equipment also contribute their share of noise.
    Now can anybody tell me something about LRL accuracy!? If we presume that lrl is workin at all?
    Great Esteban knows the "secret", of course! Aint no noise which can disturb Estebans
    "whoola-whoola" devices...!
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    • #62
      I'm not much up on MT. But I suspect that with MT, you would never be able to detect a single coin. Telluric currents are a large-scale phenomenom, and I doubt single coins would have any impact on the resulting EM fields.

      But I may be wrong.

      - Carl

      Very prudent... Others are very temerary in his appreciations:

      He Robert , c'est perdre trop de temps et s'ennerver pour rien de refleter l'ignorance de certains sur les lois fondamentales de la physique et de l'electronique a beaucoup d'amateurs de lrl...plus ils sont ignorants et plus ils sont tetus effectivement ...la physique quantique nous cache encore bien des mysteres mais ils ne remettent pas en cause les fondements...

      bla

      bla

      bla, etc.

      Mais de lá a detecter une monnaie a 500 metres c'est de la mythomanie....mal affectant beaucoup de chercheurs de tresors!!!! et exploité par des malins comme ceux de mineoro....bon salut du Mexique

      The system was AM (25-30 years ago) and today is no good for the sources of interferences. Alex, do you're working in MD factory or you're the owner? Are you neutral?

      What is the REAL purpose of this forum?

      How a great physicist as Alex don't feel shane for to visit this forum? So, I want to know why the other physicists don't visit it!!! As you don't have any proof against LRD, enjoy more here (1981 to 2006)!!! (DO YOU CAN FIGHT AGAINST IT, but no only with words?) (RObert: If your diploma and your thesis are secrets, why not long range detectors info!!!)
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      • #63
        I'm just loving this thread

        Reading this thread can be such a source of humor. No matter
        how bad things went at work that day, I can count on coming here
        and in a few minutes of reading I am laughing and feel much better.

        The eternal search for some new and unexplored effect that will somehow,
        manage to identify a gold coin at half a kilometer (more or less).

        You have a better chance of finding a way of reversing entropy.

        HH Rudy,
        MXT, HeadHunter Wader


        Do or do not. There is no try.
        Yoda

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        • #64
          coin at 70 m!


          Yes, Carl is very well known as "prudent" man! Especially when he
          offers $25000....or maybe he is very sure that LRL is nonsence!?
          Let us be reminded on previous Carl's post:
          "Sorry, Esteban, but what you are claiming does not align with
          physical possibility. Unless there is independent collaboration,
          I will have to assume that these devices are essentially the
          same as all the other LRLs out there: non-working wish devices.
          And I have personally owned, used, and tested just about everything
          the LRL world has put out, from chemical loads, to MFD, to ionic...
          none of it has ever even remotely come close to working. Nor have
          any of the technological claims.
          "Here antenna type..."
          By chance, was this device mounted on a swivel handle?
          - Carl......."

          Ha,ha,ha! "Prudent" or experienced ?
          Of course that i absoulte agree with him!
          Even more; i SPIT on LRL or any variation of it!
          So Esteban....despite obvious proofs that your claims are
          nonsences, you keep posting funny pictures!?
          Bunch of "yo-yos" holding some "whoola-whoola" devices and
          pose infront of camera!? And those are your proofs!?
          I understand you very well Esteban; you just can not accept
          the sad fact, that you wasted so many precious years of your
          life on such nonsences and pseudo science.....all that for
          nothing!
          Only thing you can do here is to post more nonsences and
          fantastic claims! To continue with wasting time and space here
          despite bust and horror you are living in!?
          Yes i do understand you, my friend. Very sad. I can sing you
          nice blues song about it....Would you prefer Johnny Lee Hooker
          or B.B.King ? Or Muddy Waters?
          I know! Carlos Santana will suit you just fine! Oye Como va!


          I have 1 000 000 pics more to post, how about you?
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          • #65
            Your judgement is since your experiences. My first trip on metal detection was just with long distance MD (in company of the designer for 4 days), and later with "classic" MD. I stay amazed!!! at my 20 years. So I start with it and continue with LDMD and the "classic". Alternating. And more: 500 m is very short (minimal) and depend of the size of the target. Sorry for to hurt your structure with this afirmation. But this kind of radar detector WAS.

            When start posting in this forum, think I will be receive echoes of similar experiences (of others) (THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM, no the SISTEMATIC NEGATION. IN OTHER WORDS: IF THE PURPOSE IS TO NEGATE ALL POSSIBILITIES, NO REASON TO CONTINUE, THIS FORUM).

            Of course, my results are modest in comparisson, but easily I achieve near 80 m for cavalry items (bronze and silver) buried at 75 cm.

            With 4 ICs, 7 transistors, 2 diodes + passive components + 3 antennas you can detect 15-20 m a coin (buried for X time, minimum since 1 or 2 years).

            So, if there are here on forum a physicist and can't make a similar instrument, is very easy to understand: no info never had and the worst: never work in this direction!!! Of course, as others MD, LDMD suffers problems since you need to work near the point when start the inestability.

            I built the next circuit 10 years ago. Sorry the dirty paper (also the size), I adjust some parameters and erase some values and insert others, etc. So, you don't need more, maybe helping by microprocessor type PIC.
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            • #66
              ?

              Have all right. BUT when we don't know, who will manufacture for personal use and who for commercial, we cannot publish circuits. Simply we give reason you try alone for better results. Esteban please publish here photos my first project Dilliger, because I have problem insert images. I would make so much effort of manufacture, if I amnοt sure for result?
              regards
              crypton's designer

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              • #67
                ...

                "Your judgement is since your experiences.."
                Yes it is true. My experiences so far, tells me that, what you are claiming is not possible.
                " I stay amazed!!! at my 20 years.."
                It is so easy for some old fraud to amaze young boy like you was at the time.
                "..500 m is very short (minimal) and depend of the size of the target.."
                First it was 70m on coin...now is 500m....!!!!???? Really Esteban!? If this is possible
                than why dont patent it and make a lot of money? I am sure that White's will pay you
                $10 000.000 for that patent. I can talk to them in your name, if you dont know how!
                I am already pretty familliar with them....so might earn some benefits for you!

                "..When start posting in this forum, think I will be receive echoes of similar experiences.."
                So time passed, and as you see; no echoes...except Hung. Only negations, not only from me but
                from many people here! What this tells you? Think about that a bit!

                "...NO REASON TO CONTINUE, THIS FORUM..."

                Yes, there are to many reasons to continue this nice forum. The best of the best!
                But, NO REASON YOU TO CONTINUE TO POST NONSENCES AND FUNNY PHOTOS ANY MORE...
                You already presented yourself as a friend, nice man, good enthusiast.....why spoiling
                with nonsences. As i saw, you have much other things to offer here. Some concrete electronic
                schematics...VLF,PI,BFO....any kind of workable and testable devices.....Why not doing that?
                Do not spoil good "picture" you already have here! Leave that bull**** to hung.He is enough!

                "Of course, my results are modest in comparisson, but easily I achieve near 80 m for cavalry
                items (bronze and silver) buried at 75 cm.With 4 ICs, 7 transistors, 2 diodes + passive
                components + 3 antennas you can detect 15-20 m a coin (buried for X time, minimum since 1
                or 2 years)..."
                Again, you are just dreaming! I just can not accept that you are lying...although it is
                possible also...Have you ever heard about "placebo" effect? I think that you are just
                surviving that!
                Andreas, i saw schematic you send to ivconic. He mailed to me few days ago...I want to play
                fair here, so do not intend to post it without your permission....but must tell you few
                things;
                You schematic is also nonsence! Ordinary,simple,obsolete type of receiver....You can
                receive only hums and interferences with it....maybe some strong local station!?
                Do not be affraid to post it here, so everybody can see and laugh to death! Also, you may
                see others opinion than mine here.....I am not almighty, i am human also, can make
                mistake, can missjudge things....So better would be if you post that here and let other to
                see it. I was talking to ivconic and we are sharing same opinion about that.
                Let other to see and than we can talk more...
                regards!

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                • #68
                  RObert

                  I'm shielding of you! So, you can make any damage!
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                  • #69
                    ?

                    No Robert. I don't want published nothing. Keep for you. Simply I made a trial, in order to see what I fear. Nothing here does not remain concealed. For this, does not exist case no real diagram it is published.
                    regards
                    crypton's designer

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                    • #70

                      Beware Esteban, what you posted on photo is Serbian product! I am Serbian also...so beware!

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                      • #71

                        Beware Esteban, what you posted on photo is Serbian product! I am Serbian also...so beware!




                        Yes, but we make useful it!!!



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                        • #72
                          ???


                          Using Tesla's coil outdoor to locate items in the ground......????
                          You must be dazed oftenly? That explains your claims here.....

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                          • #73
                            I would be interested in building and testing this device. If promising results, I may improve more. Email me if interested. We will keep this private if you want.

                            Tim
                            Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                            • #74
                              My cousin return me an album of pics of 1988. Here Alonso, I and Juan with the pistol.
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