Help!

[Earthworm Jim]

Help me! Anybody know something about Magnacast 5000?
Any experiences?
Thanks in advance!

[J_Player]

Hi Earthworm Jim,

Read what we know about Magnacast 5000 here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?t=13089

Best wishes,
J_P

[Seden]

Emailed Chinese Mfr.

J Player,
Just for grins I emailed the Chinese Company that Mfrs. the VR1000B treasure locator for a quote. Interesting that it works in the 400MHZ band and wonder if it would be legal here in the states. Would be kinda fun to play with though.
Ahso deska! (Japanese expression,sorry).

Randy

[J_Player]

Hi Seden,

Most radio transmitters are legal if kept under certain maxmum power levels. When I read the Magnacast 5000 instruction manual, I see it shows a setting that goes as high as 50 meters (164 feet). I think maybe the effective radiated power is kept below the maximum to allow transmitting the UHF band. It appears the Magnacast 5000 may work at a different frequency or frequencies than the VR1000.

In the case of the VR1000, the manual says to test it by placing several coins or pieces of jewelry about 50 feet from the transmitter -- also probably a legal transmitting power level.

Considering the inventor of the Vernell long range locators was a certified television technician, and considering he sells these products in the USA, it would seem likely that they are legal here.

See the magnacast 5000 manual here: http://www.vrdetectors.com/5000%20MA...0-from-PDF.pdf

See the VR1000 manual here: http://www.vrdetectors.com/1000INST.doc

I would be interested to hear what the Chinese manufacturer charges for the VR1000. If it is less than $100, it may be fun to order one to test.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi Seden,
I would be interested to hear what the Chinese manufacturer charges for the VR1000. If it is less than $100, it may be fun to order one to test.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_Player.
I think thay 100$ is very low price for the VR1000. As i looked i found at a shop at Florida the VR-1000 for 1800$ and the Magnacast 5000 for 2500$.
Regards

[Earthworm Jim]

Thank you!

Thank you! I havent see those yesterday.
I will read those first.
Regards!

[J_Player]

Hi J_Player.
I think thay 100$ is very low price for the VR1000. As i looked i found at a shop at Florida the VR-1000 for 1800$ and the Magnacast 5000 for 2500$.
Regards

Hi Geo,
According to Carl, the VR2000 does not work to find treasure. And the Magnacast 5000 is similar. Dell Winders Also says that he was unable to use these forward gauss machines because operating conditions deteriorated affecting the reliability of the instrument making it impractical for his use in 1988.

This makes me think this machine does not find treasure, and is not worth more than $100 to me. Maybe they will not sell for $100, but for me, I will not find more than $100 of fun playing with a machine that does not find treasure. If the Chinese manufacturer will not sell for less than $100, then I can get the same fun from looking at these machines picture at the website for no money spent.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Seden]

Good Point!

Yeah your right J Player, even spending a $100 would be a wee bit too much just to play around (my wife would take a very dim view of such expensive fun).

Like you said, it doesn't cost anything to look at the picture.

Randy

[Max]

Help me! Anybody know something about Magnacast 5000?
Any experiences?
Thanks in advance!

Hi Jim,
I haven't direct experience with this stuff... and never see it working or the like but one my friend had one of these... but I trust my friend and just report what he said me about :

FOUND: nothing
STABILITY : none (receive rf noise)
USEFULNESS : none
IMPRESSION: "pieces of junk glued with lot of spit" (textual as he reported)

I think that last was due to furstration... cause he searched all over the places... for 1 or 2 years and found nothing at all! Also bought for thousands dollars... you know.

Seems can't find any gold or everything else... think you could do better with any wallmart detector... and also you would find one at lower price!

As said... no direct experience. He reselled unit before I could test it or open cover...


Best regards,
Max

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know what it is with this website but it continually logs me off when I am trying to post so I'm not posting the info again.

I have lots of info on the Magnacast, maybe even something that might help Carl.

ITMT maybe Carl will sell his unit for $100?

[Seden]

received Chinese VR1000B Quote

Ok guy's,
the Chinese company that mfr's. the VR1000B replied to me with a quote of $2,750 USD! Wow and to think of how many goods the US buy's from them and that's the thanks I get .


Randy

[J_Player]

Factory discount is 10% higher?

$2750?? Dang ... The USA inventor will sell you the same thing after the Chinese manufacturer imports it to him for only $2500. Pretty tricky, them Chinese factories.

Well, even the USA price is $2400 too much for me, considering nobody ever saw it find anything. I figure if I could get one for under $100 delivered, then, after playing with it and testing it, (and taking photos of the inside and making a schematic for the forum), I could sell it for at least $250 on ebay. This is only a wild guess, because a real working metal detector less than 2 years old will usually sell between 50% and 80% of its retail value. But a little-known LRL that has consistent failure reports would only appeal to a few suckers who are determined to get a bargain instead of paying retail. So I speculate that 10 cents on the dollar is a good sales pitch. If I had one of these to advertise for sale used on ebay, I would state out front that "this long range locator is in perfect working condition and it finds NO TREASURE for me. It is not even worth the shipping cost. But if you think I am wrong, starting bids are $250... "

I think I would probably recover my "toy money", and some extra.

As P. T. Barnum said....

J_P

[Geo]

2750$ ??
I believe that they search for crazy people
Yes 2750$ is a very good price for the chinese manufacture to make money from us

[J_Player]

Yes 2750$ is a very good price for the chinese manufacture to make money from us

Hi Geo,

Hahahahaaa... Yes, I think it cost Chinese factory $22 for parts and $12 for labour to construct LRL. After adding shipping cost, the total factory cost is maybe $64 USD. This is the reason why I look for price under $100. Factory owner can put $36 in pocket after take my $100 USD.

Maybe my numbers are wrong, but this is no problem for me, because I will never pay more than $100 for toy that nobody can find treasure with.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

I talked to Bill Dunning about the Chinese VR1000B. He said that was not the current model.