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[Max]

Yes, I found many crappy MD schematics here, problem and problem, few can solve... so... there are "experts" for all!

So, we are equal in... crappies!!!

Men against possibility (FACT!!!!) of electronic LRL are in cavern era.

Remember: the Earth was square, later geoid or in popular language round.

"All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer

COOL!!!

Hi,
thus spoke Zarathustra !

So are you writing a novel too ???
Seems that this forum is of inspiration for novelist wannabies!

"Men against possibility (FACT!!!!) of electronic LRL are in cavern era."
uhm yeah you are the illuminado here!

Have I consider "electronic LRL" pesudo-science or ultra-science ?


Kind regards,
Max

[michael]

Hi Michael,
do you know if the parabolic reflector holds a Gunn-diode ???
I've seen somewhere a thing like this... but can't remember now where !
But I'm sure it was not a treasure finder machine...

Hi Max,
I just tried to confirm Dell comments. he is right about other firms which took advantage from Omnitron reputation. this one was in Czech and you see in words it was being referred to USA or Amerika.

About LRLing no doubt it works but it depends on operator wills, interests and much more to his perseverance. if you tell one device works nothing you will get nothing or something near it.
About what you saw from device with parabolic probe (like the picture) I have no comment, but anyway know Dell devices work. Regards, Michael.

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Have I consider "electronic LRL" pesudo-science or ultra-science ?

pesudo or pseudo?

No, you mix electronic LRL concept with LRL rods concept, you are equal than many others in bad information regarding this.

FrancoItaly is right! And yes, you'll be very imaginative as a novelist!

No, I'm not a Illuminado (Illuminato?), but I want to show a few light.

Maybe the model or design is different but some devices by independent experimenters works great! Looks different but also works! Awake!!! If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range! Look:

[Max]

Have I consider "electronic LRL" pesudo-science or ultra-science ?

pesudo or pseudo?

No, you mix electronic LRL concept with LRL rods concept, you are equal than many others in bad information regarding this.

FrancoItaly is right! And yes, you'll be very imaginative as a novelist!

No, I'm not a Illuminado (Illuminato?), but I want to show a few light.

Maybe the model or design is different but some devices by independent experimenters works great! Looks different but also works! Awake!!! If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range! Look:

Hi,
well, you're right about the typo... not pesudo but pseudo-! Damn keyboard!

" And yes, you'll be very imaginative as a novelist! " ehm well not at same level of other people here...

"Illuminado" ! Never heard of cospiracy theories ??? Illuminados ???
(a kind of secret massonic lodge that governs the World !)
But yeah, the texual meaning is something like you wrote... someone that see the light! (like in the BluesBrothers )

"Maybe the model or design is different but some devices by independent experimenters works great! Looks different but also works! Awake!!! If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range! Look:"

Oh yeah, right... but it's mechanics... not the same thing as detecting a coin 1 mile away!
Awake ??? What do you mean for medium range ??? 1 MILE ???
Have to drink some more coffe.

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Dell Winders lucky day...

Hi Dell,

Today is your lucky day!
I am reading your post where you want to see some real scientific field testing on the Vernell manufactured circuitry. Finally there is someone willing to make a real field test instead of using photographs to determine if Vernell's instruments work. You see, I have conducted field tests for a number of electronic instruments in the past 2 decades for manufacturers. Normally I charge a hefty fee for this service that only the larger manufacturers can afford. But, because of your complaints of biased reports in this forum, I am willing to waive my fees to help you prove the instruments Vernell manufactures really work for locating treasures. If you recall what you said:

For 14 years the Skeptic agenda has been to disprove everything I have learned through tens of thousands of experiments, DB tests, and field usage to learn the facts and know what is true & what is fiction about Remote Sensing Frequency Discrimination.

Carl, and other Scientific pretenders have turned this forum into a mockery of true Science. You folks seem to believe you have this uncanny ability to just look at a photograph of a so called LRL, and authoritatively declare it to be a fraud, bogus, or a scam. That's pseudo Scientific BS crap based on assumption, not fact, for which I have no respect for the Scientific credibility of such authors, no matter how many electronic engineering you may hold.

The question is, did you, or Carl, practice using the Rods according to my instructions, and conduct proper field tests to know if Vernell FG's worked according to my advertising claims?

...These things are sadly scientifically lacking in Carl's biased, opinionated, presumptive reports on LRL devices & Dowsing.

Come on people, stop pretending to be Scientific. Do your field testing, experiments & research before you keep jumping to conclusions based on egotism, assumption, or the intentional skeptic agenda to spread dis-information.

Ok Dell, no more need for anyone to jump to any conlcusions. I am ready to conduct real field tests using real science instead of biased assumptions. Instead of using Carl's methods, we will use your methods to find out what these LRLs can really do. So let's start the field testing:

Test details:
First, we need to know the exact procedure you want me and my testing technicians to follow when testing the Vernell manufactured device. I don't want any chance that we use the wrong test methods in these field tests, so I will let you specify the "proper field tests" that you want to see. When I say "exact procedure", I mean specific instructions, so none of the technicians will be asking questions like "what setting should I set these knobs to? or Should I test it any time of the day? or How far should I continue walking to find a reading?, or What kind of a response am I looking for? a needle movement or a change in sound, or what?". Publish your exact procedure here in the forum, so we all can know exactly how these tests will be conducted.

When I see the test procedure you post here, then I will email you with shipping instructions so you know where to send the Vernell manufactured LRL for testing. I will be happy to test this LRL free of charge for a period of time up to 3 months according to your test instructions. When the testing is complete I will ship the LRL device back to you. I will then publish the results of the testing in the same format that we deliver for other clients. I will also put up a web page with the results posted in a professional manner that you can use as a reference to forums and as an advertising tool to help sell the product we tested.

Because I am not affiliated with any of the skeptics in this forum, nobody will have any influence in how these tests are conducted except you. Only you can specify the proper field tests to be done. If Carl wants me to open the LRL and photograph it, too bad! I won't do it unless you tell me to do it here in this forum where you post your test procedures.

I would like to see one of the Vernell LRLs work to locate a treasure. I suppose You are the most qualified person to show how to accomplish this. So I will be waiting to see your test procedure before I send you the shipping instructions.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Nihil Roma Maius]

ehm well not at same level of other people here...

Yes, there are people of good level here in the forum, but no you.


"Illuminado" ! Never heard of cospiracy theories ??? Illuminados ???
(a kind of secret massonic lodge that governs the World !) and bla bla bla

Because there are also Illuminato. Please, I'm not ignorant. Do you're playing with secret societies (remember your post where you said "I'm don't like The DaVinci Code" or similar)? Now... secret society! You love this! Do you're also a magician? Do you are a fortune-teller? Maybe you're masonic and you believe you're the owner of the truth...


Oh yeah, right... but it's mechanics... not the same thing as detecting a coin 1 mile away!
Awake ??? What do you mean for medium range ??? 1 MILE ???
Have to drink some more coffe.

You're confused!

You need more than coffe, you need Memorex 1,000 or similar

(But this only cure the bad memory, no other faults.)

[Max]

ehm well not at same level of other people here...

Yes, there are people of good level here in the forum, but no you.


"Illuminado" ! Never heard of cospiracy theories ??? Illuminados ???
(a kind of secret massonic lodge that governs the World !) and bla bla bla

Because there are also Illuminato. Please, I'm not ignorant. Do you're playing with secret societies (remember your post where you said "I'm don't like The DaVinci Code" or similar)? Now... secret society! You love this! Do you're also a magician? Do you are a fortune-teller? Maybe you're masonic and you believe you're the owner of the truth...


Oh yeah, right... but it's mechanics... not the same thing as detecting a coin 1 mile away!
Awake ??? What do you mean for medium range ??? 1 MILE ???
Have to drink some more coffe.

You're confused!

You need more than coffe, you need Memorex 1,000 or similar

(But this only cure the bad memory, no other faults.)

You make me laugh.

Have no one good idea, have no good to offer here, just stupid claims of ridiculos gizmo-devices.

My memory is ok, it's your mineoro that will never work and find a coin.

So drop it in WC.

Kind regards,
Max

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Mineoro and me? Nothing to do. Somebody wash your brain with dirty water!

[Max]

Mineoro and me? Nothing to do. Somebody wash your brain with dirty water!

Hi,

"Somebody wash your brain with dirty water!"

Is this another insult ???

JUSTICE COME!

YOU MAKE ME LAUGH...

MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DIRTY WATER TO WASH YOURS???

Yes, MINEORO, aren't you a supporter ??? Aren't you witness ???
Aren't you support spark-gaps here ?
Detection of coins from 25 meters away ?
That you see people detecting metals from 600-700 meters away ???

AREN'T YOU!


C'MON ... GIVE US THE PROOFS IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF THIS "SCIENCE".
I'M AWAITING !

C'MON , PLEASE RESPOND!

C'MON, YOUR LRL WORKS OR NOT ???

WIN THE CHALLENGE AND I'LL DO WHAT I SAID.



YOU ARE A CLOWN!