Fun and Pathetic

[Max]

Our leader LRLer.

Hi,
oh man... wow... now FG80 works also in Australia ?

So you can find enormous gold nuggets with it...

Kind regards,
Max

[Elie]

Respect the work of a living of a fellow countryman.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi.
This is not my return to the forum as I stand for what I claimed several weeks ago. I have nothing to gain here anymore. And everything to loose, specially my patience.

Welcome back ... I think.

After being away for sometime, I started to read the messages and it’s clearly evident how pathetic is the temptative of some skeptics here of ‘imploring’ Esteban for his schematics.

It's Max that's doing the "imploring". IMHO the only LRL person I have respect for is Esteban. This is because he is a fellow experimenter. Whether he is self-deluded or not is irrelevant, and it's still interesting to understand what phenomenon he is detecting, if anything. Although I do not believe it is longtime buried gold, it would be good to know the real underlying cause.

Besides this and the usual morons of the hour who insist in discrediting Mineoro (he,he,he,), ...

Actually there's no need to discredit Mineoro. Their own advertising does a good enough job by itself.

I warned Esteban he had nothing to gain being here and displaying his *** to spanking , but he chooses to keep talking here and I respect that. Actually I think he’s having more fun here than ever now.

Perhaps Esteban enjoys a good spanking. Some people are like that!
Personally I hope that Esteban continues to post, even though Max's retorts can be somewhat annoying. (No offence intended Max, but you do need to give Esteban a break now and then.)

As stated previously, I’m in the final stages of having a LRL system fully working. It’s different from Esteban’s concept as I will detect gold long range, no matter if it’s long time buried, if it was buried 2 minutes ago or even if it’s not buried. The same goes for silver.
But also unlike him, I won’t be revealing a single word about it’s concept much less discussing its working principle.

Nothing new there then.

Now returning to the subject, I never thought skeptics would show their desperation in getting their hands on a working LRL. Using every dirty tactic available. This is historic in my opinion.
Picture this… We and Esteban live in ‘third world’ countries as some sordidly refered in the past.
So how come we suceed? We should hot have the technology available, should we?
Sure we do. Alhtough we don’t have the US money, we have bright people in this side of the americas too, folks.

"... a working LRL." There's a novel concept.

This forum has become a circus now.

You need to ask Max about that. (i.e. all the clown pictures.)

And besides the ocurrences described above, not much happening, and in fact if it wasn’t for Esteban here, remote sensing would be dead.

Good old Esteban.

You know this, as you would be talking alone. Or, you would do like us and would get your asses out of the chair to research and build you own units. But this is another story, isn’t it?

This statement makes a huge assumption - that LRLs actually work. This is the reason for the discussions with Esteban. Since (in my mind) he is a credible experimenter, this is the only logical place to start any exploration of this claimed phenomenon. And - that's what it is - a claimed phenomenon, not a proved one. If you want to prove something to the skeptics then you need to post some real objective proof, not just subjective evidence. So far ... nothing. Hence the polite request for a schematic. Even one that is 15 years old. If you cannot supply any real proof, then further claims are pointless.

Forum has become fun. I laughed a lot upon reading the latest messages. So even I can’t return now (to busy) I might post some sporadic messages in the future to join the fun here.

Many a true word is said in jest. The whole LRL subject is fun because it is a joke, unless you prove otherwise. This means you must submit to double-blind testing.

Beofre I go, I should point the only sad note is that I see one member here trying to discredit Dell Winders and his deivces. Don’t do this. Respect the work of a living of a fellow countryman.

I realise that some skeptics gets emotionally involved (as do some LRL proponents) and it ends up as a slanging match, but in general this forum is usually conducted in a polite manner. Unfortunately Dell is one of the emotional people, and threats to sue people in court tend not to go down very well.

Have a nice week.

And you ...

[Max]

Welcome back ... I think.


It's Max that's doing the "imploring". IMHO the only LRL person I have respect for is Esteban. This is because he is a fellow experimenter. Whether he is self-deluded or not is irrelevant, and it's still interesting to understand what phenomenon he is detecting, if anything. Although I do not believe it is longtime buried gold, it would be good to know the real underlying cause.


Actually there's no need to discredit Mineoro. Their own advertising does a good enough job by itself.


Perhaps Esteban enjoys a good spanking. Some people are like that!
Personally I hope that Esteban continues to post, even though Max's retorts can be somewhat annoying. (No offence intended Max, but you do need to give Esteban a break now and then.)


Nothing new there then.


"... a working LRL." There's a novel concept.



You need to ask Max about that. (i.e. all the clown pictures.)


Good old Esteban.


This statement makes a huge assumption - that LRLs actually work. This is the reason for the discussions with Esteban. Since (in my mind) he is a credible experimenter, this is the only logical place to start any exploration of this claimed phenomenon. And - that's what it is - a claimed phenomenon, not a proved one. If you want to prove something to the skeptics then you need to post some real objective proof, not just subjective evidence. So far ... nothing. Hence the polite request for a schematic. Even one that is 15 years old. If you cannot supply any real proof, then further claims are pointless.


Many a true word is said in jest. The whole LRL subject is fun because it is a joke, unless you prove otherwise. This means you must submit to double-blind testing.


I realise that some skeptics gets emotionally involved (as do some LRL proponents) and it ends up as a slanging match, but in general this forum is usually conducted in a polite manner. Unfortunately Dell is one of the emotional people, and threats to sue people in court tend not to go down very well.


And you ...

Hi,
ok ok... let's Esteban and others breath. I'll be out of writing here for a while and just reading. I'll answer only to direct calls here.

Let's see what happens.

Enjoy.

Kind regards,
Max

[hung]

Hung your LRL will it find diamonds or can it be tuned to find only gold?

At phase 1 , only gold and silver specifically. In a later stage yes, diamonds will be included. It's only a matter of gathering info on its structure.

[hung]

Hung,

So what kind of lead time are you talking about for your device? 1year,3years.....?

Randy

Nooo... It's within a month or so away. Problem is I'm busy on research with the Mineoro and also busy with other things.
Tests will soon be performed for tuning, bandwidth and power.
As I already claimed this is phase1. Phase 2 a more complicated but totally reachable (project is ready and designed) will employ imaging in an avant guarde technique.

[Earthworm Jim]

Hot water again!?


"...I'm busy on research with the Mineoro and also busy with other things..."

Huge waste of time! Hot water discovery again? Mineoro long range locators and simillars are nonsences! Not workable at all, so many times already proven...Why wasting more time on this subject?

[J_Player]

This is not Mineoro nonsense. It is Hung's modified RangerTell that REALLY, REALLY works. Honest!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

Hung's detector

(At phase 1 , only gold and silver specifically. In a later stage yes, diamonds will be included)

Hung I would like to know if your detector or if a diamond ring can be detected or if the dimond and gold will afect detecting.( diamond mounted on gold) will this change the signal lines or will the signals mix.also can a detector be made to have a range of 10m and be set to 25 cm deep.
This detector is for hunting diamond rings and small diamonds( I was told that detecting diamond is a flag for a scam type detector?)I want to do more learning and testing.( The Rangertell examiner I have will not pick up anything at this time) I have 10K 14K and a 18K ring in my test ground over 10 years.Can a lrl pick up this type of gold or must the gold be pure.

[J_Player]

The Rangertell examiner I have will not pick up anything at this time

Hi Clondike Clad,

Try changing the calculator for a HP 12C financial calculator. These were designed for money-related purposes, and are much higher quality than the calculator that was shipped stuck to the RangerTell. Be sure to drill a little hole in back near the calculator processor, and use genuine 3M double-stick tape. If this upgrade doesn't work, then open the RangerTell and try shorting one end of all those wires together in that mass of unused telephone wire.

Hope this helps,
J_P

[Max]

Nooo... It's within a month or so away. Problem is I'm busy on research with the Mineoro and also busy with other things.
Tests will soon be performed for tuning, bandwidth and power.
As I already claimed this is phase1. Phase 2 a more complicated but totally reachable (project is ready and designed) will employ imaging in an avant guarde technique.

Drop the Mineoro's pistol in the WC, then add a lot of water....so it'll find gold... in the sea !

[hung]

(At phase 1 , only gold and silver specifically. In a later stage yes, diamonds will be included)

Hung I would like to know if your detector or if a diamond ring can be detected or if the dimond and gold will afect detecting.( diamond mounted on gold) will this change the signal lines or will the signals mix.also can a detector be made to have a range of 10m and be set to 25 cm deep.
This detector is for hunting diamond rings and small diamonds( I was told that detecting diamond is a flag for a scam type detector?)I want to do more learning and testing.( The Rangertell examiner I have will not pick up anything at this time) I have 10K 14K and a 18K ring in my test ground over 10 years.Can a lrl pick up this type of gold or must the gold be pure.

Clondike, the method we utilize according to our research can distinguish both elements fine. So if it's programmed for silver, it will detect silver even there's gold beside the silver sample, unless there's silver also in the sample.
The opposite (programmed for gold) also applies.
For diamonds, as I said, it will be left to a later stage, after the gold/silver tests and detection tech has stabilized. But I see no prolems at first sight.
Only thing we will lack in the initial phase is the determinantion of depth of the object. Distance , direction, substance type, etc. are no problem. But we are working on it.

Regarding your Rangertell not being able to detect your rings, it's strange. This is not happening to me. I suggest you drop an email to RT and inform your case.
Regards.