Carl MFD article ,5KHZ frequency ?

[Esteban]

You can find these frequencies with Larmor's frequency calculator for elements. These varies according the magnetic field applied in any substance or element. OK.

With PPM, both of these are only accomplished when the water is INSIDE the coil. The same is true with hospital MRI machines... the patient is slid INSIDE a humongous coil.

Yes, but you forgett the possibility of irradiated a kind of laser-infrared beam (modulated) and collect the information regarding each substance.

I think seriously in other kind of frequency, the based on vibration of the molecules of each element, very precisse for each.

[J_Player]

Yes, but you forgett the possibility of irradiated a kind of laser-infrared beam (modulated) and collect the information regarding each substance.

Hi Esteban,

Can you tell us more about these modulated irradiated laser-infrared beams?
This does not sound like magnetic resonance, but maybe magnetic resonance combined with something else?

Where do you find these beams, how can we sense them?
Do they come from buried objects, or do they come from all objects?
How strong is this beam signal?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Who say that 5KHz is the "frequency of gold" is a liar or just doesn't understand anything of what he's talking about.
The people that work with MFD (not me).

The guys you know maybe are "dowsers"... and use the so called MFD to increase their ability.
Yes with good results at fresh buried objects
I don't belive in dowsing... but saw something similar.
The same to me but i saw... saw.... saw
Kind regards,
Max

Carl wrote "In the end, the concept of trying to remotely resonate buried targets is just bogus. It is like trying to boil water with a microwave oven, by placing the water 100 meters from the oven, and then running the oven on a 9-volt battery. Ain't gonna happen"
Maybe......... but as i wrote that "MFD works very good with small and new buried objects" .......... it is true... Why?????? i don't know (Ohhh there is problem with old buried or very big objects, here is the problem ..... can't find exactly the center)
Regards

[Esteban]

Hi J_Player,

You emit a IR-laser or IR modulated in audio beam, NO A FIX BEAM in wich you insert the tone via a capacitor. No, you ON and OFF the IR diode at this tone frequency, can be 400 Hz. This tone (modulation) appears as a phase shift in a receiver system. I only try with IR, but sure IR-laser will be better, but much more expensive in comparation. Not for to measure temp, but this beam is like a precisse antenna in wich beam "travel" the phenomenom (because I try it only for old buried items, no for new) and dislocates the system. Also all bodies emit IR, metals in major quantity. But the question is: why I can't detect a person (wich emit IR) but yes a metal buried? What is the associated phenomenom inherent to this? Atomic vibration also? Is very complex!

[Qiaozhi]

When you mix up the equation, not surprisingly you will get wrong and incorrect results, conclusions and aproaches.

Yes - perfectly true, and no-one will disagree with that!

In fact, this is admirably demonstrated by MFDs. A complete confusion of ideas and concepts...

[Rudy]

You presented some fairly correct info above, but some of them as well as the conclusions are mostly wrong. When you mix up the equation, not surprisingly you will get wrong and incorrect results, conclusions and aproaches. I will not be discussing this here, but your explanation on MFDs are incorrect and the other assumptions above don't apply.

I wouldn't expect anything more informative from your response. To paraphrase:


Your initial facts and information are mostly correct.
However, you are aggregating these facts incorrectly and
arrive at an incorrect conclusion.

I know why you are incorrect, but I will not explain why.

Such petulance and arrogance.

[Carl-NC]

You presented some fairly correct info above, but some of them as well as the conclusions are mostly wrong. When you mix up the equation, not surprisingly you will get wrong and incorrect results, conclusions and aproaches. I will not be discussing this here, but your explanation on MFDs are incorrect and the other assumptions above don't apply.

Eh?

I'm wrong, but you're not willing to discuss it? Do you expect anyone to take your assertion seriously?

- Carl

[Carl-NC]

Yes, but you forgett the possibility of irradiated a kind of laser-infrared beam (modulated) and collect the information regarding each substance.

My post addressed only the misapplication of NMR to MFD. I don't doubt that there are other ways to detect distant compositions. Ferinstance, spectroscopy is used in astronomy to analyze the composition of stars and interstellar gasses, but this method requires light transmission through the object.

I think seriously in other kind of frequency, the based on vibration of the molecules of each element, very precisse for each.

Molecular vibration is dominated by NMR. Water molecules vibrate at the NMR frequency of hydrogen. Besides, objects like gold & diamonds are not molecular compounds, but rather atomic structures that have metallic or covalent bonding structures. So claiming that their "molecules" vibrate is meaningless.

- Carl

[Max]

You presented some fairly correct info above, but some of them as well as the conclusions are mostly wrong. When you mix up the equation, not surprisingly you will get wrong and incorrect results, conclusions and aproaches. I will not be discussing this here, but your explanation on MFDs are incorrect and the other assumptions above don't apply.

Hi,
Hung as always you try to disinformate people.

Carl said all scientific things/facts. Open your phisics book and read.
You need a controlled environment to do NMR, that is the NMR machine at hospital of scientific department, or the e.g. water container sorrounded by coil in e.g. a proton precession magnetometer: same thing.

In these controlled env. you know exactly what's going on, for example the intensity of magnetic field at each time and can tune/reset the machine with known samples (e.g. H2 rich compounds).

What you say here show only your ignorance about how these technology work. You probably never used or saw one in action like other people have.

Yours are just speculating.

Have no facts, lie here telling us that you use Mineoro's from a car moving:
tons of BS.
Impossible, and everybody know that.
You are a storyteller.

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Besides, objects like gold & diamonds are not molecular compounds, but rather atomic structures that have metallic or covalent bonding structures. So claiming that their "molecules" vibrate is meaningless.

Hi Carl,

Interesting point. I was thinking a gold atom is considered a molecule, but a molecule is defined as at least 2 atoms. So you are correct, the nuclear magnetic resonance of gold is not the same as the molecular resonance, because there is no gold molecule unless it is combined with at least one more other atom as an electrically neutral group.

This makes me wonder about carbon. In the case of diamonds, isn't there a diamond molecule which consists of quite a few carbon atoms bonded into a structure? When I look at the difference between graphite molecules and diamond molecules, it seems that maybe there is some basis to say they have distinct molecular resonant frequencies. It appears that the molecules for graphite, diamond, and several other all-carbon materials are of different size and mass, which would support the notion of different resonant frequencies.

Maybe I am missing some key information here, but the appearance is there may be a resonant frequency for diamonds, even if it is highly unlikely anybody could detect this resonance outside an extremely strong electromagnetic field.

See graphite and diamond molecules here: http://www.edinformatics.com/interac...es/diamond.htm

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Hi J_Player,

You emit a IR-laser or IR modulated in audio beam, NO A FIX BEAM in wich you insert the tone via a capacitor. No, you ON and OFF the IR diode at this tone frequency, can be 400 Hz. This tone (modulation) appears as a phase shift in a receiver system. I only try with IR, but sure IR-laser will be better, but much more expensive in comparation. Not for to measure temp, but this beam is like a precisse antenna in wich beam "travel" the phenomenom (because I try it only for old buried items, no for new) and dislocates the system. Also all bodies emit IR, metals in major quantity. But the question is: why I can't detect a person (wich emit IR) but yes a metal buried? What is the associated phenomenom inherent to this? Atomic vibration also? Is very complex!

Hi,
" But the question is: why I can't detect a person (wich emit IR) but yes a metal buried? What is the associated phenomenom inherent to this? Atomic vibration also? Is very complex!"

??? A "person" body emission spectrum have infrared portions due to the heat generation by organic tissue, so at the end, due to chemical reactions that take place inside the body. You can see them by e.g. an infrared camera.
This is the same principle of operation of cheap alarm sensors, passive-IR-detection.

But you mix things talking about "body" radiation (black-body used e.g. in Planck's experiments) and human body !

You say that all things emitt IR ? What a kind of phisics book you have ?

IR emission is possible but for many substances, compounds and "metals" only in hi-energy state!

Where did you see e.g. gold, at room temperature, emitting IR radiations ???

BS.

In IR-lasers that probably you don't know... an "active" material is ENERGIZED in a pumping process to give the right energy level to the material, from which it spontaneosly decade releasing photons with infrared frequency, all in phase one each other.

You have to give external energy to the system to get your IR photons. When you light an IR-led you have to give energy (supply it) to get IR-emission... you can test with your VCR-remote !

There are spontaneous chemical-reactions that generate IR-avalanche etc etc etc an example are chemical-organic-lasers!

But metals, normally, don't emit IR. This is a BS.

So, at first you see the "light" from treasure... now also IR-light !

TONS OF BS.

Kind regards,
Max

[aft_72005]

Hi aft_72005,

Can you show where you found this formula so we can read it also?

Thank you,
J_P

Hi J_Player

The book specification:
Fundamentals of molecular spectroscopy essayby
Banwell,C.N.

In chapter seven author was wrote about spectroscopy
Of spin resonance .
I asked from my friend about molecular resonance ,he is
Chemist engineer, give me this book. I have paper
Translated from English version .
Please tell me If you found PDF format of this book.
Regards .

[Max]

Hi J_Player,

You emit a IR-laser or IR modulated in audio beam, NO A FIX BEAM in wich you insert the tone via a capacitor. No, you ON and OFF the IR diode at this tone frequency, can be 400 Hz. This tone (modulation) appears as a phase shift in a receiver system. I only try with IR, but sure IR-laser will be better, but much more expensive in comparation. Not for to measure temp, but this beam is like a precisse antenna in wich beam "travel" the phenomenom (because I try it only for old buried items, no for new) and dislocates the system. Also all bodies emit IR, metals in major quantity. But the question is: why I can't detect a person (wich emit IR) but yes a metal buried? What is the associated phenomenom inherent to this? Atomic vibration also? Is very complex!

Hi,
another stupid thing about "metal IR emission" you say possible is that metals are very special "structures"... not good for emitting !

An example of what I say is by solid-ruby-chromium-doped laser... chromium is a metal but you can't get light emission from it when it's in the metallic "structure" !

No chromium bar emit light Esteban ! At room temperature I mean!

In solid-ruby-chromium-doped laser the atoms of chromium are enclosed in the ruby as doping in semiconductors... this avoid the "metallic" behaviour and give you the ability of using an optical pump to energize the chromium atoms to then emit light returning to the low-energy level.

METALS EMIT IR ? ALL BS.

Best regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Hi aft_72005,

Thank you for the information about Banwell and his publication.
I did not find this published on the internet, but I read that this is an excellent introductory text used in colleges all over the world and as reference material for other publications.

You will find many excellent books related to magnetic resonance that cite Banwell's publication here: http://books.google.com/books?um=1&l...G=Search+Books

If you page through some of these publications, you will find some very interesting reference materials to read that were made by other scientists and researchers.

Best wishes,
J_P

[aft_72005]

Hi J_Player
Yes, in the introduction of this book translator wrote,
Was the best reference for chemist students and tuition
In the most university of the world.
Regards.