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  • #76
    Originally posted by J_Player View Post
    Hi Max,
    I made no claims that thermal noise is light or not in this forum. I believe I read those words in your post.

    The claim I made is I will believe what the Caltech professors say about infrared. Not what you say.
    Do you still want people to believe this?

    You may still call me a nonscientist if you want. I don't care

    Best wishes,
    J_P
    Hi JP,
    this is a stupid polemic I think. You can of course get IR radiations and other kind if e.g. you heat up a piece of platinum to 1000 °C but we are talking here of "light" emission or "IR" (always light but IR frequency) emission by e.g. metal bars at room temperature, for me room temperature is around 25°C not 1000.

    Now if you energize the platinum bar at 1000 degrees is obvious you get a strong emission , with continuos spectrum, of e.g. IR photons.
    Easy to detect this. Nothing new.

    At 25°C the IR emission of a piece of platinum is near zero.
    You have to count photons.

    I talked about thermal noise cause thermal is the cause of the small emission of what you and Esteban are talking about here.

    A piece of e.g. gold at 25°C give the same amount of IR photons of one my fart.
    Or maybe my fart emit much more IR !

    What you want detect that way ? My farts ?

    That's the big picture. Have absolutely no meaning talking about of light or ir emission from metals at room temperature... cause a piece of plastic or a plant can emit thousand times more !

    A small number of photons is generated by thermal and then ?
    So what ?

    Wanna use a photomultiplier-tube to see or count them ?

    How to discriminate if an IR photon is generated by the soil itself, or a plant, or a piece of plastic, or a stone, or even some airborne particles ???

    How that supposed IR photons could e.g. pass soil layers ? Have you asked yourself ?

    Who talks of treasure emitting light want illude naives, I repeat again.

    Caltech professors talk of things they can measure with costly machines and hi-technology devices, and they are right cause know physics.

    I agree with them and know already that... Boltzman's experiencies are really old on the topic. Nothing new.

    They can count even single photons emitted by my farts ! Can you !?
    Or Esteban ???

    How ? With garage-made detectors ?

    C'mon... it's a stupid polemic you're doing here. You can't and Esteban also.

    Treasure = energy for me have no meaning.

    Or want really people belive that "Treasure=ENERGY"!

    So read my radical assertion of "no emission" (that is wrong if you want split hairs) as "too small to be detected by you". Just this.

    Kind regards,
    Max

    "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
    But we dont need a reason
    "

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Max
      What you want detect that way ? My farts ?
      I didn't say I can detect anything, and I didn't ask for any of your fart BS. I asked Esteban about details of his circuitry. If you have problems with farts, please complain to somebody else.

      If I want a lecture on how IR radiation works, I will read what the Caltech professors wrote, not what you wrote. I still think your statements about infrared are wrong, and the Caltech professors are right:
      Originally posted by Max
      But metals, normally, don't emit IR. This is a BS.
      Best wishes,
      J_P

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      • #78
        Originally posted by J_Player View Post
        I didn't say I can detect anything, and I didn't ask for any of your fart BS. I asked Esteban about details of his circuitry. If you have problems with farts, please complain to somebody else.

        If I want a lecture on how IR radiation works, I will read what the Caltech professors wrote, not what you wrote. I still think your statements about infrared are wrong, and the Caltech professors are right:

        Best wishes,
        J_P
        And what about "treasure = energy", what do you think about ?

        IR LRL DETECTION = BS. That's my equation.

        "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
        But we dont need a reason
        "

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        • #79
          Originally posted by J_Player View Post
          I didn't say I can detect anything, and I didn't ask for any of your fart BS. I asked Esteban about details of his circuitry. If you have problems with farts, please complain to somebody else.

          If I want a lecture on how IR radiation works, I will read what the Caltech professors wrote, not what you wrote. I still think your statements about infrared are wrong, and the Caltech professors are right:

          Best wishes,
          J_P
          few photons are an emission !?

          oh yes...sure, but you need a nuclear lab to detect them.

          You don't say that to naives.

          ALL BS. That's what you , Esteban and other LRL fanatics give here.

          "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
          But we dont need a reason
          "

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          • #80
            and about your BS, you wrote this about iconos-md:

            "Please forgive doubting skeptics. We know your long range locator really works."

            You know their LRLs work ???

            You make DISINFORMATION HERE, and maybe also product placement or product tie-in for something till now nobody have tested.

            How can you say "We know your long range locator really works."? explain this genius !

            Now call the professors at Caltech to give you some help !

            Kind regards,
            Max

            "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
            But we dont need a reason
            "

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            • #81
              I asked Esteban to explain how he built his circuit, not you. You have demonstrated you didn't know anything about how he constructed his circuit. Esteban really knew that answer, not you.

              You also demonstrated you don't know the basics of Infrared emissions. I did not ask you for any information about Infrared. If you need somebody to listen to your theories about infrared, please ask somebody else to listen to you. I prefer the facts taught by the university professors, not your version:
              Originally posted by Max
              But metals, normally, don't emit IR. This is a BS.
              Best wishes,
              J_P

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              • #82
                Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                I asked Esteban to explain how he built his circuit. You have demonstrated you didn't know anything about what circuit he constructed, Esteban really knew that answer, not you. You also demonstrated you don't know the basics of Infrared emissions. I did not ask you for any information about Esteban's circuit or Infrared.

                If you need somebody to listen to your theories about infrared, please ask somebody else to listen to you. I prefer the facts taught by the university professors, not your version:

                Best wishes,
                J_P
                I've already explained.
                But you don't answer my question about iconos!

                "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                But we dont need a reason
                "

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                • #83
                  And what about "treasure = energy", what do you think about ?

                  EXPLAIN THIS, OR CALL CALTECH TO EAR THEIR LAUGHS.

                  IR LRL DETECTION = BS. That's my equation.

                  "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                  But we dont need a reason
                  "

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                  • #84
                    Hi,
                    Now that you want appear scientific... call Caltech and show them this post by you !

                    Didn't you posted that ?

                    This is your science ?

                    NONSCIENTIST.

                    Best regards,
                    Max
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                    But we dont need a reason
                    "

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                    • #85
                      Now I understand why you think Esteban is right,

                      your is Caltech's science right ?

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                      But we dont need a reason
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                      • #86
                        Am I the cure or not ?

                        "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                        But we dont need a reason
                        "

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                        • #87
                          Hi JP,
                          did you swapped the Mineoro's website for a "science website" ?

                          And now you speak here of science ! Shame !

                          C'mon explain us the equation:

                          treasure = energy

                          or why you know so many things of iconos-md machines... that nobody have tested untill now...

                          Be proud of your past posts! of your "diversity" !

                          Kind regards,
                          Max
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                          But we dont need a reason
                          "

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                          • #88
                            Actually that image of trace amounts of ions moving up from the ground has been confirmed to be correct by thousands of reports by scientists all over the world. What is not correct is the ions becoming airborne. Did you forget this was a joke that Qiaozhi was first to recognize?
                            Originally posted by Qiaozhi
                            This is not from a science website.
                            This is pseudoscientific rubbish from Mineoro.
                            Originally posted by J_Player
                            This thread may have all started out as a joke about Mineoro's claims that gold ions hover in the air above buried gold, but it lead to a large body of research that demonstrates and documents subterranean gold processing.
                            But you were not talking about ions in the soil, you were talking about your theories of infrared and trying to get me to listen to your concept. I still prefer what is taught in universities about infrared emissions, not your version:
                            Originally posted by Max
                            But metals, normally, don't emit IR. This is a BS.

                            you still say that metals emit Infrared radiations ?

                            Where did you read that ?
                            I don't really believe your theory of infrared emissions is correct, and I don't think you know the answers to how Esteban built his circuitry. Please direct your theories to someone else.

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P

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                            • #89
                              Hi,
                              I've explained my point. That Caltech scientists are right and I agree with them.

                              There are few IR photons ! Happy now ?
                              Have to repeat!

                              I've used wrong expression... but result is the same, you cannot detect them with a garage made detector like Esteban say. Less happy now ?

                              Now explain us :

                              treasure = energy

                              and why you claim iconos-md as working LRLs.

                              Explain that !

                              Gold ion clouds are scientific facts for you !? Still you claim this is a scientific fact ??? There's no cure for you !

                              Have to post the picture again, cannot resist !

                              Kind regards,
                              Max
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                              But we dont need a reason
                              "

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                              • #90
                                Your science is mineoro's science, so nonscience.

                                Then you are a NONSCIENTIST !

                                "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                                But we dont need a reason
                                "

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