Carl MFD article ,5KHZ frequency ?

[Max]

Hi,
no, no

you wrote of a "joke" only after Quiaozhi told you that was rubbish from mineoro... but before you referred it as a "science website"...

Just after that you changed version of the story.

So you read the www.mineoro.... and never reported that your source for the picture was mineoro's website. Why ? Didn't you know mineoro before ?

Oh yeah, not intentional !

I belive everything ! I'm a naive !

Facts say that you are another nonsense supporter... but mineoro is a burnt name/brand so you now talk about iconos-md as working device!

Didn't you ?

Here is your science website reference again. Enjoy.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi,
You didn't know Mineoro before eh ?

And hope someone belive you !?

All the Remote sensing forum is full of Mineoro threads and references, tests, whatever...

BS, you did know it very well but posted the picture here saying that it come from a science website.

But Quiaozhi remembered that it come from Mineoro's and you had to change your story.

For me say everything JP.

YOU JUST WANT MISINFORMATE PEOPLE HERE.

Mr. Caltech

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Hi Max,

I see you continue to demand I explain all kinds of things.
I didn't come here to explain anything. I came here to ask questions from Carl and Esteban. What reason to you insist on trying to shove out your theories about infrared? You don't think I should be allowed to ask questions without your permission?

Don't expect me to believe your theories, and don't expect me to explain things that don't have anything to do with the questions I asked about the electronics Esteban used. You are not entitled to have me or anyone else believe you. I will believe what I think is correct, and I will answer questions I decide to answer, not what you demand.

No amount of your arguments will make me believe you know as much about infrared as the professors who teach it. But this also applies to all your other theories So you can forget about convincing me your idea is right and what scientists publish is wrong. Your continued repugnant postings will not change that.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

You repeat... I've already explained.
I have to repeat: this is your science and you are a nonsense supporter.

THIS IS YOUR SCIENCE ! SHAME !

[J_Player]

You didn't convince me Max. Did you convince yourself? Are you now in a mad panic to prove you're right? You are beginning to look silly now. Perhaps I should change my opinion of how smart I think you are.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Hi,
YOUR POST IS DATED 07/18/2007... and you want people here belive you doesn't know mineoro or that you haven't reported cause your thought was that theory was right in any case !?

Date say everything.

You changed story cause Quiaozhi remembered that was mineoro's rubbish and you wan't be labeled as a mineoro's supporter, having posted that picture.

FACTS.

NOT EMPTY WORDS.

Now you say that iconos-md are working devices ! That "we" know that !

You have no shame !

That's your science, mineoro's fake pictures. Look.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

You didn't convince me Max. Did you convince yourself? Are you now in a mad panic to prove you're right? You are beginning to look silly now. Perhaps I should change my opinion of how smart I think you are.

Best wishes,
J_P

You posted that picture and reference to a "science website" not me. This is a fact.

Your repetition of the IR argumentation seems silly, cause I've explained 20 posts ago !

But maybe you read just Mineoro's stuff...

[Max]

Now sorry but I've to leave for now the silly competition... have to do some other things.

See you soon.

[J_Player]

One thing to note. It took 2 plus years to a member of this forums finally admit ionic activity in buried metals. Just like Mineoro claimed, results from work of both inventors for 50 years.

Who's the one posting links about ionic activity of metals lately? You tell me.

Hi hung,

I posted more links about ionic activity of metals than anyone else here lately. But it's not true that it took 2 plus years for me to finally admit ionic activity in buried metals. I knew there are trace ions associated with long time buried metals before I joined this forum, and posted information to that effect shortly after I joined: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?p=41667

At the time I made that post, neither franco, me or Ivconic believed there were gold ions floating in the air. And none of the three of us has changed our mind about floating ions. It is a fact there can be traces of metal ions in the ground that slowly migrate to the surface from a long time buried target, just as Demasio says. There is a lot of documented evidence to support this. But no scientist has documented evidence to support a cloud of gold ions floating 7.2 feet in the air above this target. The floating gold ion cloud theory is easy to disprove. The entire notion that a LRL or any other instrument can sense a stationary cloud of metal ions hovering in the air above a buried target is not possible in my opinion.

So there is no new revelation, I say metal ion traces can form in the soil from a metal object over a long time, the same as I did shortly after I joined the forum. The only thing that changed is I posted a lot of links to show where people could read some proof about these metal ions in the soil.

You wouldn't have any links where we could read similar proof published by scientists to support Damasio's claim the ions hover 7.2 feet in the air above the target, would you?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Also, if you still have not found gold with it, it's your problem, not mine or Mineoro's.

Wow! I wonder what would happen if Garrett, Whites, Fisher, Tesoro, Minelabs, etc., were to state this about their own detectors?
Shame on you Hung. You could get sacked from your job at the Mineoro Marketing Department for saying such things.

You either DOES NOT WANT IT TO HAPPEN or worse, you have bad intention and don't want admit the device in fact does. I sincerelly hope you don't get to this extreme, but coming from you, nobody knows.
Keep pretending the device is useless, In fact all LRLs in your hands are useless. If I were you I would worry and would go see a doctor right away.

At last you've admitted it! The fact that the Mineoro FG80 needs to be believed-in for it to work. So skeptics beware. You'll never get an LRL to work, however hard you try. First you must forget all the physics you were taught at school, college or university, then pay your dues to the Church of Mineoro. Then after years of practice and self-delusion, followed by frequent occurences of selective memory, you might reach the same level of incompetence as Hung. Then you should visit the doctor and request euthanasia.

Sorry pal, I cannot take your 'make believe' claims anymore.

Likewise.

This is my last input towards you and the FG80 subject.

Anyone want to place a bet on how long it takes before Hung's next post?

I tried to give you good info. But incompetence and twisted attitudes have limit.

Define "good info".

[J_Player]

At last you've admitted it! The fact that the Mineoro FG80 needs to be believed-in for it to work. So skeptics beware. You'll never get an LRL to work, however hard you try. First you must forget all the physics you were taught at school, college or university, then pay your dues to the Church of Mineoro. Then after years of practice and self-delusion, followed by frequent occurences of selective memory, you might reach the same level of incompetence as Hung. Then you should visit the doctor and request euthanasia.

But there are more 'make believe" claims we must believe before being accepted to the hung chapter of the church of Mineoro. Do you think you will be accepted by the high priest of Mineoro before you agree to the following oaths?:

• Do you swear you believe all Mineoro FG series LRLs can find fresh gold even if hung never shows you any Mineoro finding anything and nobody on earth is willing to demonstrate it finding treasure?

• Do you swear you believe hung recently found a 500 year old legendary treasure in the middle of a large city, even if there have been no news reports about this legendary find?

• Do you swear you believe hung has completed secret mods to his RangerTell that allows it to detect gold and silver coins a mile away?

• Do you swear you believe hung found gold veins in an undisclosed location of the forest that will never be revealed or recovered, and can't be verified by anything except hung's claim it is true?

• Did you send in your check to have Mineoro send you a new FG80 that REALLY, REALLY finds fresh gold?

• Do you swear you believe this was hung's last post in the Geotech forum?

• Do you swear you will contiunue to believe all hung says, even after his next post in the Geotech forum?


Don't expect any Mineoro or RangerTell locator to work until the high priest of Mineoro annoints you in his cornbread-eating ceremony after you take these oaths!

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Max wrote regarding halo:

Same happened to me, before I saw it.
I didn't want belive it to exist before I've seen with my eyes the strange phenomenon. Then I've changed idea about.

Ahhh! You can "see" the halo!!! Ehhh!!! Where is your science background, so!!!


* * * * * * * * *

Continue Max, the "halo viewer", the illuminato :

I've seen it with my eyes... that's why I'm sure of that it exist.

Cannot explain why... have just some ideas.


You need go to doctor, he has a good dosis of "Haloperidol". Because you SEE the halo, seems 1/2 or 1 1/2 psicotic grade! Or "Alopurinol" for diseases of advanced ages.

have just some ideas.

"Ideas". No idea you have about it. Be factual!

If you measure is other thing, but you "see" the halo. Is more impossible than to see light (a kind a flamme) near or in treasure sites, reported for 1,000 persons!

I understand. You see the halo causes severals solvents, alcohol, acids and cigars (your complicate technic for to cleaning PCB)! Under extreme conditions, you can see also the phantom of the opera.

Wait, I have more and more for you, dictator of the science! I'll drop it for our diversion!!!

PS: Do you see the red halo?

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Very frequently, Max wrote:

I'm the cure.

Ahh!! Better, you're the light here!!! You're an extreme case!

Seems I'm bad, I'm nationwide, remember, the same style of RObert! Also you was one of the main promotor!

Doctor, here your BFO. If you're stressed, I can added more stress for you! Because you not acting with correction in forums!

PS: maybe you can hear few hertz with it.

[Max]

Hi,
didn't you wrote that ?

So you have seen too... or you just want people belive halo in involved in LRLs ?

I've seen the effect by sensitive MDs... few cms more than maximum in-air detection.
Many people reported the same and phenomenon, though controversial and unexplained, is known in the TH community.


So what ?
That doesn't mean I have to belive treasures emit light !
Have I ?

You report of more than 1,000 persons that saw this...
I don't and don't know of anyone claiming that before Esteban, you and some other LRL fanatic or dreamer.

Fact that there could be some IR or visible frequency photons from something doesn't mean you could see that. Actually when you see e.g. a light ray... you see effects of billions of photons on some aerosol particles... not few.

To "see" them you have to use e.g. avalanche devices, e.g. photomultipliers tubes... but I cannot see anything of that in e.g. Mineoro's or Esteban's things.

Light from treasure (you can detect) = BS.
IR LRL = BS.
{Treasure = Energy} = BS
treasure emit light visible by human eye = BS..

These are my equations.

But if you have proofs that a piece of METAL AT ROOM TEMPERATURE EMIT LIGHT A HUMAN BEING CAN SEE... SHOW US.

I wanna see too that light!

FOR ME WHAT YOU SAY, THAT METAL AT ROOM TEMPERATURE EMIT LIGHT A HUMAN BEING CAN SEE, IS PURE BS.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Very frequently, Max wrote:

I'm the cure.

Ahh!! Better, you're the light here!!! You're an extreme case!

Seems I'm bad, I'm nationwide, remember, the same style of RObert! Also you was one of the main promotor!

Doctor, here your BFO. If you're stressed, I can added more stress for you! Because you not acting with correction in forums!

PS: maybe you can hear few hertz with it.

Do you hit horses with it ?