Mineoro PDC205 ,210 ..schematic need

[WesP]

I would say that if that $1000 were used to buy quick pick lotto tickets your odds of getting rich would be greater then buy a LRL and finding anything of value. Is it greed, gullibility or just stupidity that makes people believe in that "pot of gold" at the end of the rainbow?

[Max]

I would say that if that $1000 were used to buy quick pick lotto tickets your odds of getting rich would be greater then buy a LRL and finding anything of value. Is it greed, gullibility or just stupidity that makes people believe in that "pot of gold" at the end of the rainbow?

Hi,
problem are not pots of gold... that I showed in other threads there are in some places and found with conventional MDs... in UK this happens now quite often, or well ... we know that cause people declare to authorities the finds...

problem is that these LRLs cannot detect any gold (or anything but noise) at any distance.

If you live in ancient places or near there or even few centuries of history are under your feet you could find that things too.... but for sure not using one LRL.

Till someone prove us with real demonstration LRLs work... of course anybody that will buy one for the purpose of finding gold or whatever is a bit naive from my point of view... no offence to anyone, but I think so.

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

A very wise man once told me "it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it". What "it" is is irrelevant. Does this mean that if there are no bids, then it is worth zero?

Best wishes,
J_P

This is what I was implying when there were zero bids, but Carl correctly pointed out that the starting bid was not $1, it was $4,500. In that case the first bidder would have needed to stump up four and a half big ones to start the ball rolling. However, it still shows that no-one was willing to pay the asking price.

[bugwhiskers]

http://cgi.ebay.it/Mineoro-PDC-210-L...QQcmdZViewItem


do you read
here and do you say that you think of it? with right of recess

here the video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EJI5cvAKug

Interesting video, what I found most interesting was the following.

Regardless of the distance the box was away from the camera(and microphone) the sound of the beep never varies in volume.

In one scene there is quite a bit of wind blowing the trees yet no wind noise in the microphone, just the unvarying volume of the beep.

If they fake their promotional videos you can bet your last dollar the product will be equally fake.

regards
bugwhiskers

[hung]

US$ 4,500 is about what I paid for mine at the time. If the owner on ebay is asking that, he knows it’s worth.
He claims to have found gold and needs to sell it to have bugdet for a recovery. Could he be lying? Sure he could, and this could be a marketing gimmick, specially coming from an american, the kings of capitalism…

But the PDC has a extensive list of sucesses troughout the time. Several and several treasures were found with it. There are sucessful owners from all parts of the world. In America, there’s Donald Dereck and Hank Carey. So what the owner on ebay claims is very normal to happen. I myself as a sucessful owner knows it for sure.
And don’t’s say the above persons don’t exist. They do , they have emails and a member here has even traded some messages with them.

You see, this is not what is important here. What is important is that this is one perfect expample of how this kind of discussions, since a long time ago, left the realms of simple success stories and cases of LRL owners, to become a pathological excursion in sick deviations.. Some people insist in attach hoaxes on everything related to this topic in a manner which has long left the doctors consulting rooms straight to resting facilities.

It takes more than one PDC to suceed in finding gold. Lots of hard work involved. Even if someone owns one and he’s an ‘armchair researcher’ he’s destined to failure. And the majority of people here falls in this category. Am I lying? Be honest. How many of you regularly go out in the field?
I’m not talking about skeptics as those specimens have never got out from their computer monitors.

Carl Moreland is a case apart. By now, he has lost all credibility towards me. I must admit it never was that much tough. When he first got his FG, I stood back just to watch what he would do and what his intentions would be. I knew that he had in hands a device which I was totally familiar with and that could find gold. But I had this stong impression he had just purchased the device to have the ‘alibi’ of using it just for his personal agenda and real intentions.
Well, I was 100% right.
I gave him all attention, providing instructions and telling him all the time TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD to test it with people who used other LRLs and knew where gold was. He would see the device working. But then what would this mean? That he had to revise all of his long time agenda of skeptcism about LRLs. So what he did instead? Kept twisting facts of not being able to detect fresh gold and blah, blah blah, despite of being told by me that special conditions were required for this to happen and I agreed this was a little exagerated in the advertising. I told him every time to go out in the field for a real test as the best ionic and electrostatic conditions are met for long time buried gold.
But I knew what his agenda was. He did with me exactly what he did many times before in the very same situations, such as when he used similar tricks to back out from Kelly Brown’s challenge. So his line of thought’ was, if the ‘administrator’ of this forum claimed the device did not work, this was more than enough to have credibility. Going out in the field in a real research was ‘just a detail’.
Poor Carl, he owns a ton of regular MDs and pratically all LRLs available and despite of that all he claims to have is a gold bar which he probably purchased?
I admit he has a good contribution tough keeping the remote sensing subject active here for discussion, although this being clearly skeptic oriented.

It’s notorious he always had and will always have an agenda towards this subject. Only a naïve will remain ignoring it. Carl will keep doing this till the day he dies expecting promotion, so let’s stop hypocrisy here. 'Supposed credibility' in this forum towards me is not that important as I trully know my achievements, but for him it’s very important. It’s imperial for his surviving.

[Max]

US$ 4,500 is about what I paid for mine at the time. If the owner on ebay is asking that, he knows it’s worth.
He claims to have found gold and needs to sell it to have bugdet for a recovery. Could he be lying? Sure he could, and this could be a marketing gimmick, specially coming from an american, the kings of capitalism…

But the PDC has a extensive list of sucesses troughout the time. Several and several treasures were found with it. There are sucessful owners from all parts of the world. In America, there’s Donald Dereck and Hank Carey. So what the owner on ebay claims is very normal to happen. I myself as a sucessful owner knows it for sure.
And don’t’s say the above persons don’t exist. They do , they have emails and a member here has even traded some messages with them.

You see, this is not what is important here. What is important is that this is one perfect expample of how this kind of discussions, since a long time ago, left the realms of simple success stories and cases of LRL owners, to become a pathological excursion in sick deviations.. Some people insist in attach hoaxes on everything related to this topic in a manner which has long left the doctors consulting rooms straight to resting facilities.

It takes more than one PDC to suceed in finding gold. Lots of hard work involved. Even if someone owns one and he’s an ‘armchair researcher’ he’s destined to failure. And the majority of people here falls in this category. Am I lying? Be honest. How many of you regularly go out in the field?
I’m not talking about skeptics as those specimens have never got out from their computer monitors.

Carl Moreland is a case apart. By now, he has lost all credibility towards me. I must admit it never was that much tough. When he first got his FG, I stood back just to watch what he would do and what his intentions would be. I knew that he had in hands a device which I was totally familiar with and that could find gold. But I had this stong impression he had just purchased the device to have the ‘alibi’ of using it just for his personal agenda and real intentions.
Well, I was 100% right.
I gave him all attention, providing instructions and telling him all the time TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD to test it with people who used other LRLs and knew where gold was. He would see the device working. But then what would this mean? That he had to revise all of his long time agenda of skeptcism about LRLs. So what he did instead? Kept twisting facts of not being able to detect fresh gold and blah, blah blah, despite of being told by me that special conditions were required for this to happen and I agreed this was a little exagerated in the advertising. I told him every time to go out in the field for a real test as the best ionic and electrostatic conditions are met for long time buried gold.
But I knew what his agenda was. He did with me exactly what he did many times before in the very same situations, such as when he used similar tricks to back out from Kelly Brown’s challenge. So his line of thought’ was, if the ‘administrator’ of this forum claimed the device did not work, this was more than enough to have credibility. Going out in the field in a real research was ‘just a detail’.
Poor Carl, he owns a ton of regular MDs and pratically all LRLs available and despite of that all he claims to have is a gold bar which he probably purchased?
I admit he has a good contribution tough keeping the remote sensing subject active here for discussion, although this being clearly skeptic oriented.

It’s notorious he always had and will always have an agenda towards this subject. Only a naïve will remain ignoring it. Carl will keep doing this till the day he dies expecting promotion, so let’s stop hypocrisy here. 'Supposed credibility' in this forum towards me is not that important as I trully know my achievements, but for him it’s very important. It’s imperial for his surviving.

Hi,
I went out this morning for a short 3hours TH session... just few drive... then I stopped my car and start searching with my BandidoII-clone and found 3 nice items in less than 2 hours...just walking and sweeping... nothing more!

Found a total of 17items but just 3 of interest...other stuff was trash... brass stuff etc

Problem with your LRLs is that you can't switch it on and be sure of what happens next... I mean that they sound with noise or even at random!

So where the usefulness of LRLs ? I cannot see any.

When my MD sound I dig stuff... but when zahori or other pistol sound I cannot understand why most of the times... if not under a powerline.

How can I find treasures with a thing that beeps at random ?

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

I gave him all attention, providing instructions and telling him all the time TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD to test it with people who used other LRLs and knew where gold was.

Hahahahahaaaa nice try... We all know there is nobody on earth willing to demonstrate a LRL working. Even the local Mineoro dealer failed to answer any of my emails inquiring about the FG series. I read the reports about the Mineoro factory refusing to answer emails from disappointed customers. Your instructions are bogus. I have had an open invitation to test a LRL for free, and I see nobody on earth is willing demonstrate their LRL working and receive a free professional web page with videos showing the LRL working. Also free forum posts linking to the free professional web page. Nobody on earth is willing to show their LRL work. Not hung, not Alonso, not the local Mineoro dealer, not anybody on earth.

Hahahaahahahahaha what a bunch of bogus BS.



Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

By now, he has lost all credibility towards me. I must admit it never was that much tough.

I misexpressed myself above and the sentence ended up with a completely different meaning.
The correct is:

" By now, he has lost all credibility I had for him, and this credibility was never that much tough.' (sic)

This is what I meant.

[hung]

Hahahahahaaaa nice try... We all know there is nobody on earth willing to demonstrate a LRL working. Even the local Mineoro dealer failed to answer any of my emails inquiring about the FG series. I read the reports about the Mineoro factory refusing to answer emails from disappointed customers. Your instructions are bogus. I have had an open invitation to test a LRL for free, and I see nobody on earth is willing demonstrate their LRL working and receive a free professional web page with videos showing the LRL working. Also free forum posts linking to the free professional web page. Nobody on earth is willing to show their LRL work. Not hung, not Alonso, not the local Mineoro dealer, not anybody on earth.

Hahahaahahahahaha what a bunch of bogus BS.



Best wishes,
J_P

JP,
I sent you an email some weeks ago, covering the subject you coment above. I hope you have received it because it would end all the discussions regarding this topic.
Regards.

[Clondike Clad]

Hung's LRL

How are you doing with your detector you are making?
Did you get it to work with diamonds yet.
Will it pick up small gold rings

[hung]

Hi Clondike,

We are in a very sensitive stage of the system. The assemblying and balancing of components along with tuning. It's a careful and meticulous procedure which requires total concentration and the most hard variable: Time.
If I had plenty of it, then it would be ready by now. But I'm enjoying each and every part of the ride. Although the assemblying and design is complex, the concept is simple. In fact I learned a lot with this project, specially that complex things lie in simplicity. Mother nature for instance, where every complex phenomena is so beautiful.. and so simple.

PS. Identification of substance will be total, even if in the middle of iron, trash, etc. I better not coment on the range of this thing yet. I freaked when I saw it. Hope everything keeps doing well as expected.
Regards.

[J_Player]

We are in a very sensitive stage of the system. The assemblying and balancing of components along with tuning. It's a careful and meticulous procedure which requires total concentration and the most hard variable: Time.

Hung studies the meticulous procedures for assembling and balancing a LRL .....

[roberts]

Funny stuff!



"...and this could be a marketing gimmick, specially coming from an american, the kings of capitalism...."

There is certain antagonism against whole nation here!? Or i missunderstood this?


"...By now, he has lost all credibility towards me..."


Dont know about him...but do know for sure, at least one here without credibility at all!


"...'Supposed credibility' in this forum towards me is not that important ..."


Should be! Some people discredit themself easilly...look what you posted!


"...We are in a very sensitive stage of the system. The assemblying and balancing of components along with tuning. It's a careful and meticulous procedure which requires total concentration....."


Same as woodoo magic!

[Tim Williams]

J player I have to say, you are one funny dude! You made me laugh.

[Clondike Clad]

Keep me inform on your detector.

Hi Clondike,

We are in a very sensitive stage of the system. The assemblying and balancing of components along with tuning. It's a careful and meticulous procedure which requires total concentration and the most hard variable: Time.
If I had plenty of it, then it would be ready by now. But I'm enjoying each and every part of the ride. Although the assemblying and design is complex, the concept is simple. In fact I learned a lot with this project, specially that complex things lie in simplicity. Mother nature for instance, where every complex phenomena is so beautiful.. and so simple.

PS. Identification of substance will be total, even if in the middle of iron, trash, etc. I better not coment on the range of this thing yet. I freaked when I saw it. Hope everything keeps doing well as expected.
Regards.

I seen a Real LRL and at this time I want to learn more about them.
All I wanted was someone to show me and That has happen.
So now I'm learning from you and others.