mineoro experiments (pdc205-pdc210)

[Esteban]

Hi my Friend:

It is precisely because we think that we are here talking around.
when i see Hung paternally congratulating you to be SCIENTIFICALLY grown up,(a joke?!) i wonder where is the science ??

Leave the people loves me!


There is explanation for scientific discoveries or else it is not science .

I can't receive recognition from the scientific community because I'm not doctor in Physics.

Question:What is the point to keep it secret?

Can you record your thoughts on a tape? Fine, but untill you explain it dont call it science.

R.: See all my inputs (also in Archive section), maybe you can obtain a conclussion, so I'm not keeping any secret. You can record it and study. You can make this effort (any agency do this). This is, also, a scientific job.

Maybe I drop slowly... but as I said to Geo:

"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself." - Galileo

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Fortunly very soon i´m sure it will be developed a real LRL,and it will be based on real Metal detector tecnology,because this zahory,Mineoro,Iconos,they belong to the same STATIC family...I

Morgan, they exist since 1959, so I prevent the new inventors they don't will be the firsts! Look:

[Esteban]

Esteban excuse six more able to prove iconos your friend?
Best reguards

Hi Putrechigi

Soon

[Fred]

Hi !

I can't receive recognition from the scientific community because I'm not doctor in Physics.

I disagree:nowayday, with the communication means a real discovery can be made public,even witout background.Medias will love it.Write to a scientific magazine!

R.: See all my inputs (also in Archive section), maybe you can obtain a conclussion, so I'm not keeping any secret. You can record it and study. You can make this effort (any agency do this). This is, also, a scientific job.

Now i am confused : why to make me "dig" amongs tons of posts just to find something that is no secret??? You can call this a scientific job,(i dont)but has othing to do with MD´s .
why governments have not read your posts and stolen this invention?.Could it be used to find land mines, and save thousands of people?

Maybe I drop slowly... but as I said to Geo:
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself." - Galileo

This applies to something else, when he said that Galileo was probably flying highter.Did you "find within yourself" how to read and write?

Best Regards Esteban
Dont worry, be happy now...

[hung]

If there is a LRL who can realy find treasure 700 m distance,i think just $5000 is little money for a device who realy worksat this distance.

You're tripping man... Early this year my team in a research reached 1.2 miles with the PDC210 on target.

There's a treasure we are working on the recovery in a remote region which was picked from 600 m. It's a real humid enviornemnt which in normal conditions (dry air) would double this distance at least.

I know of a Mineoro user who last year found 2Kg of gold coins from 2 Km away. This was when the beeps first started. He's lucky because he lives in a desert like climate during the day.

There's a shipwreck near my home with a considerable amount of gold and silver. As this recovery is an extremely expensive operation due to excessively muddy bottom and trash on site, I gave up for now and use it as a reference to know wether the ionic fields are good or not a particular day.
I normally pick it with the PDC from 2 miles (detecting from the sea shore), although the beeps are weak most of time. I only get an increase during summer time. With the FG, I used to pick it from 350m more.

Enough for you?

Fortunly very soon i´m sure it will be developed a real LRL,and it will be based on real Metal detector tecnology,because this zahory,Mineoro,Iconos,they belong to the same STATIC family...I steel have my DC2008 4sale !!!

Well you're right on this. Soon I will acomplish my own LRL system which is not based on ionic/electrostatic principle. Initial tests show it reaches much more than the distances above mentioned.

But it sounds the detector you would really need is the one which also digs the treasure for you.
Well, you never know...

[Fred]

Soon I will acomplish my own LRL system which is not based on ionic/electrostatic principle. Initial tests show it reaches much more than the distances above mentioned.

The more i read, the more amazed i am.So there is more tan one way to find gold so far away? the "ionic/electrostatic principle", that was presented to be the big secret, has a big brother??

Man some day we all have one , usd 10 , from china.
Fred

[Morgan]

This simplificated schematic you put here its very good for this people in Forum start going to the right side of the real LRL of buried conductive metals,and start to forget the dificult , erratic and complicated way of ionic static detection of buried metals.
Next time you can give them the other part of this puzzle...

Best regards

[Fred]

Hi Morgan,
But there IS a ionic chamber on this schematic.

[Morgan]

LRL since 1959

Fortunly very soon i´m sure it will be developed a real LRL,and it will be based on real Metal detector tecnology,because this zahory,Mineoro,Iconos,they belong to the same STATIC family...I

Morgan, they exist since 1959, so I prevent the new inventors they don't will be the firsts! Look:

I´m sure this is true,and like i tell to you i have a prototipe ,russian device"Zelattoy",its very similar to this one you show on photo.
Maybe it works with the same MD tecnology from 1959,used BFO beat frequency oscilator.
I´m sure very soon someone will increase the performance on this machines and make true LRL with enough power to locate treasure 1km or more,and not just the limited 20 or 30m...
Its also possible to use this device to locate buried explosive mines. And it was more developed because of this purpose.

Best regards

[Morgan]

Esteban schematic

Hi Morgan,
But there IS a ionic chamber on this schematic.

No Fred,what you see in this schematic its the antena formed i think by 11turns of cooper wire,and the other part that you call ionic chamber,it seams to me a choque Micro Henry used in transistor radios.Better you ask to Esteban,but i´m sure its not Ionic chamber

Best regards

[Qiaozhi]

There's a shipwreck near my home with a considerable amount of gold and silver. As this recovery is an extremely expensive operation due to excessively muddy bottom and trash on site, I gave up for now and use it as a reference to know wether the ionic fields are good or not a particular day.
I normally pick it with the PDC from 2 miles (detecting from the sea shore), although the beeps are weak most of time. I only get an increase during summer time. With the FG, I used to pick it from 350m more.

Now this shows very concisely why this ionic detection nonsense is just pseudoscientific gobbledygook. We are told that the ionic phenomenon is reduced in humid conditions. But on the other hand, you want us to believe that gold from a shipwreck can be detected from 2 miles away. There is no way you can argue that the sea represents dry conditions.

[J_Player]

There is no way you can argue that the sea represents dry conditions.

Errrr... so what is the relative humidity of the ocean floor?

[Fred]

Now this shows very concisely why this ionic detection nonsense is just pseudoscientific gobbledygook. We are told that the ionic phenomenon is reduced in humid conditions. But on the other hand, you want us to believe that gold from a shipwreck can be detected from 2 miles away. There is no way you can argue that the sea represents dry conditions.

This is irrelevant with the new super hight scientificly (upgradable) version of non-ionic secret technology chambers detectors.
As i mentioned,a dry-conditions-only detector is financially counter productive.
regards!
Fred.

[Esteban]

No Fred,what you see in this schematic its the antena formed i think by 11turns of cooper wire,and the other part that you call ionic chamber,it seams to me a choque Micro Henry used in transistor radios.Better you ask to Esteban,but i´m sure its not Ionic chamber

Best regards

Isn't ionic chamber.

[Esteban]

I´m sure this is true,and like i tell to you i have a prototipe ,russian device"Zelattoy",its very similar to this one you show on photo.
Maybe it works with the same MD tecnology from 1959,used BFO beat frequency oscilator.
I´m sure very soon someone will increase the performance on this machines and make true LRL with enough power to locate treasure 1km or more,and not just the limited 20 or 30m...
Its also possible to use this device to locate buried explosive mines. And it was more developed because of this purpose.

Best regards

The first use transmitter-receiver. Tube 6L6.