Post proof of working LRL

[Esteban]

The schematic can be found if a reader searched for several hours through the photos and schematics with errors to produce a good schematic of the circuit board only. This schematic is not complete because there is no information of how to connect many wires to the coils, no information of what wire size to use for coils or how many turns, or if we need to provide taps in the coils. So this schematic is not complete. Nobody can build the Morgan pistol detector unless he has the missing coil information.

We already know from building conventional metal detectors that each detector requires a coil that is made to work with the electronics for the detector. We cannot switch coils from one machine to another and expect good results. There are many different coil types that require different inductance and resistance for each detector. Sometimes 2 or more coils are required. Anyone who spends hours trying to find every error in the LRL circuit, then guesses at the coil to attach will not be building the same detector that Morgan showed.

So my answer is no. There is not a workable schematic for building the Morgan pistol detector.

Best wishes,
J_P

I have notice that Geo build it, but coil implementation seems he mantain in secret!

Of course, you'll need several hours for to correct errors, trial and errors system for the coil, but this is normal when you copy a schematic and don't be sure # of wire, windings, etc. So, this is not reason for to conclude this isn't workable. If you copy a detector and don't know about his coils, insert your own errors, etc., this is other problem. Morgan insist strongly that the detector works and many in forum believe in Morgan's words.

[J_Player]

I have notice that Geo build it, but coil implementation seems he mantain in secret!

Geo's coil implementation is only his guess. It cannot be the same as the Morgan detector unless he took apart Morgan's pistol and counted the wire sizes and turns from all the coils in the head. Whatever Geo built is NOT the same Morgan pistol detector that Morgan insists strongly works. Even Geo would agree that it is not the same.

I have notice Esteban built many pistol detectors, but coil implementation and circuit implementation seems he maintain in secret!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

I have notice Esteban built many pistol detectors, but coil implementation and circuit implementation seems he maintain in secret!Best wishes,
J_P

Exactly!,
So no wonder people find dificult to believe or not that it works.
Fred.

[roberts]

What was that? Swearing on spanish...!?!?

Aint no secrets in bogus and fake devices. Everything is fake.
When pounded in a poky corner, mouse starts to bite everybody!
Ha,ha,ha!
I see deep flurry here! It is not only Roberts any more asking for
proofs, now other people started to ask. Finally!
Finally we got here few very clever and smart people.
You cant always plead your lies with Roberts's guilts here.
Yes i am very same man used RObert and Sony nick in the past.
What's new in your "smart" discovery? Already all knew that.
At the time i shared RObert nick with 4 other people from my
company. Sony nick was started by somebody else and later i
used it few times. Idea was to provoke some mebers here to
ramped out from usuall bs claims and lies. People well known
here also.
But i lost control under that nick (RObert) and few other guys
missused it and started to exaggerate in dirty language and
offends. I was absent for 2 months and when returned i just
nailed terrible situation here.RObert was public enemy No 1!?!?
I tried to calm down that but without succes. Harm was done and
RObert was banned! Although i still think administrator made small
mistake by not done same with few other members here. But it is
never to late.You still have enought time to show your real "face".
I can see you! I know you! You can't hide!
Second...yes diploma was real and original.It was not my guilt cose
it is international diploma and easilly can be founded and downloaded
from internet.It was pretty wild and rare coincidence that you
just pounce on it surfing arround. But i have news for you; it is
not only one diploma. i have 2 more!
I have one doctorate and 2 magistrates.Real. Earned.
Man can ask, why the hell some "doctor of science" waste his precious
and noble time here on this low level public forum instead spending
same time in "clouds". I will answer you this also; all my life i was
struggled and fought against lies,frauds and fakes.
At some point in my life i reached level when i have nothing to be fear
of any more. I stepped in second half of my life when most of existential
problems are very well solved.Now i have enough money and dont need to work
very hard, every day to survive. I found this place as very relaxative for
me in my spare time between jobs and projects. EM is my favorite in physics
and i stepped here to read and see all possible aspects of its practical use
in this very nice hobby - metal detecting.
But i never expected here to find terrible lies and frauds like outdoor in
real world!?? It was horror for me when realized!
I must pay tribute to administrator for splendid idea. Idea was (ask him if you
think i am wrong) to gather various people here on strictly friendly bases, sort
of club.People here could share ideas,knowledge and spread friendship.
Splendid idea. This should stay that way. This shouldnt been poluted at all.
But you and few of your "brothers" poluted it hardly!
Between all of you, you Esteban was least "ugly" so far. But as Hung and few others
totally lost this "war" only you left, and now all the pressure is on you.
You are the last one.
You will loose too. Pretty soon.Or you must change.You must step up here and
admit the truth. You must excuse to all members here and admit your lies.
There is no working LRL.Not! All LRL "devices" showed so far here on this
forum are fakes and bogus.Neither one is workable.This is ultimate truth!
ANker,Tesoro's,White's,Sturms,Fishers,Minelabs, Cscopes,BH's,Compass's,Pulse Stars
and all other are proven as workable. But neither one LRL! How come!?
LRL is pathological human problem. Hardly cureable if not at all.
Instead answering right questions here you are defending your attitude by asking
for my identity. Trying to discredit me. Who am i, why am i so important?
Do you think if discredit me totally you will prove that your LRL is workable?
All of the sudden the rest of members will start to beleive your nonsences?
Of course not. With or without me, fact is that aint no workable LRL on this
world.
Prove that or retreive.
My identity is not important at all.I am simple human, bones,skin and blood, same as
you, same as any other here. I cant show my identity due professional contracts i signed
and very important obligations i do still have. Once i get retired i will
say my full name here. But you must wait for 9 years more.
I am not allowed to use my lap top,even, here. It is company lap top.
So if you tried to trace me you'll find out only backbone IP. Dead end.
I am using very often a connection and pc from my friends. That's why you
"discovered" that i am this man or that man or God only knows who!? Ha,ha,ha!
About my contributions here; oh yes i done enough here under few other nicks (not
Sony and RObert). I gave here few good things, later used by many members.
It is pleasure when i see people are satisfied and happy with my designs.
That's all i wanted.I dont have strong ego to say "that's my...i designed that".
I am especially happy to see you using my designs also!Ha,ha,ha! You are not awared
at all about what am i talking here..!? Ha,ha,ha,ha!
You will stay uninformed for some time more. Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
I do enjoy in this, for real!
But this is not really important.
Important is to stop with lies and frauds. To stop confusing people here.
Dont give false hope to youngsters here.
All your "devices", which photos you posted here so far, are bogus and fakes!
You know that, i know that.
I did posted "Iconos" schematics here with purpose to let other to see "big secrert"
and also to let them to decide about it. Coils are not important at all here. Coils,
antennas...blah,blah...not important at all. Important is to see inside in "secret" device
cose conversant man can cleary see and understand functionallity according to posted
circuitry. Every electrinc enthusiast with basic, esential knowledge can easily see
if some device is real or nonsence according schematic.
Iconos schematic is good example. Absolute nonsence, by all means!
Cant even detect itself!
What contraproofs you want more???
Do you want to speak about mineoro again? Ha,ha,ha,ha!
Already disected by Carl and few others.Already proved as totall fake!
Everything about mineoro already posted and sayed many times. Photos,proofs everything!
What else do you want? Wanna talk about Zahori???Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Ranger Teller...?? Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Electroscopes...??? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Gravitator...??? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Omnitron....ppfffffhahahahahahah!!!!
Are you such short memory!? Dont you rememer all the shame already exposed here on
various LRL "secrets"....ionic chamber!? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!
Now, this time you hooked up to radio???!!! Pffffffha,ah,ah,hhahahahah!!!!
Well....radio is my life, occupation,money...everything!
I work for 25 years as doctor of radio. I know all about radio waves, what is
possible to know. And than you came here and dare to confront my opinion..!???
Ha,ah,hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! !!!!
No, really...what is enough i enough! I cant stand this any more....

[roberts]

Usted es muy estúpido yo tiene amigo que entiende español muy bien !
Puedo leer y escribir a español también !
Puedo batirle en español también...

[J_Player]

Originally posted by Esteban:
I can locate with simple methods

Originally posted by Roberts:
There is no working LRL.Not! All LRL "devices" showed so far here on this forum are fakes and bogus.

It seems to me that a full schematic with coil details and tuning instructions would allow us to build a LRL to test and prove whether Esteban is correct, or if the "doctor of electronics" is correct about finding long-time buried metal.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

What was that? Swearing on spanish...!?!?

Aint no secrets in bogus and fake devices. Everything is fake.
When pounded in a poky corner, mouse starts to bite everybody!
Ha,ha,ha!
I see deep flurry here! It is not only Roberts any more asking for
proofs, now other people started to ask. Finally!
Finally we got here few very clever and smart people.
You cant always plead your lies with Roberts's guilts here.
Yes i am very same man used RObert and Sony nick in the past.
What's new in your "smart" discovery? Already all knew that.
At the time i shared RObert nick with 4 other people from my
company. Sony nick was started by somebody else and later i
used it few times. Idea was to provoke some mebers here to
ramped out from usuall bs claims and lies. People well known
here also.
But i lost control under that nick (RObert) and few other guys
missused it and started to exaggerate in dirty language and
offends. I was absent for 2 months and when returned i just
nailed terrible situation here.RObert was public enemy No 1!?!?
I tried to calm down that but without succes. Harm was done and
RObert was banned! Although i still think administrator made small
mistake by not done same with few other members here. But it is
never to late.You still have enought time to show your real "face".
I can see you! I know you! You can't hide!
Second...yes diploma was real and original.It was not my guilt cose
it is international diploma and easilly can be founded and downloaded
from internet.It was pretty wild and rare coincidence that you
just pounce on it surfing arround. But i have news for you; it is
not only one diploma. i have 2 more!
I have one doctorate and 2 magistrates.Real. Earned.
Man can ask, why the hell some "doctor of science" waste his precious
and noble time here on this low level public forum instead spending
same time in "clouds". I will answer you this also; all my life i was
struggled and fought against lies,frauds and fakes.
At some point in my life i reached level when i have nothing to be fear
of any more. I stepped in second half of my life when most of existential
problems are very well solved.Now i have enough money and dont need to work
very hard, every day to survive. I found this place as very relaxative for
me in my spare time between jobs and projects. EM is my favorite in physics
and i stepped here to read and see all possible aspects of its practical use
in this very nice hobby - metal detecting.
But i never expected here to find terrible lies and frauds like outdoor in
real world!?? It was horror for me when realized!
I must pay tribute to administrator for splendid idea. Idea was (ask him if you
think i am wrong) to gather various people here on strictly friendly bases, sort
of club.People here could share ideas,knowledge and spread friendship.
Splendid idea. This should stay that way. This shouldnt been poluted at all.
But you and few of your "brothers" poluted it hardly!
Between all of you, you Esteban was least "ugly" so far. But as Hung and few others
totally lost this "war" only you left, and now all the pressure is on you.
You are the last one.
You will loose too. Pretty soon.Or you must change.You must step up here and
admit the truth. You must excuse to all members here and admit your lies.
There is no working LRL.Not! All LRL "devices" showed so far here on this
forum are fakes and bogus.Neither one is workable.This is ultimate truth!
ANker,Tesoro's,White's,Sturms,Fishers,Minelabs, Cscopes,BH's,Compass's,Pulse Stars
and all other are proven as workable. But neither one LRL! How come!?
LRL is pathological human problem. Hardly cureable if not at all.
Instead answering right questions here you are defending your attitude by asking
for my identity. Trying to discredit me. Who am i, why am i so important?
Do you think if discredit me totally you will prove that your LRL is workable?
All of the sudden the rest of members will start to beleive your nonsences?
Of course not. With or without me, fact is that aint no workable LRL on this
world.
Prove that or retreive.
My identity is not important at all.I am simple human, bones,skin and blood, same as
you, same as any other here. I cant show my identity due professional contracts i signed
and very important obligations i do still have. Once i get retired i will
say my full name here. But you must wait for 9 years more.
I am not allowed to use my lap top,even, here. It is company lap top.
So if you tried to trace me you'll find out only backbone IP. Dead end.
I am using very often a connection and pc from my friends. That's why you
"discovered" that i am this man or that man or God only knows who!? Ha,ha,ha!
About my contributions here; oh yes i done enough here under few other nicks (not
Sony and RObert). I gave here few good things, later used by many members.
It is pleasure when i see people are satisfied and happy with my designs.
That's all i wanted.I dont have strong ego to say "that's my...i designed that".
I am especially happy to see you using my designs also!Ha,ha,ha! You are not awared
at all about what am i talking here..!? Ha,ha,ha,ha!
You will stay uninformed for some time more. Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
I do enjoy in this, for real!
But this is not really important.
Important is to stop with lies and frauds. To stop confusing people here.
Dont give false hope to youngsters here.
All your "devices", which photos you posted here so far, are bogus and fakes!
You know that, i know that.
I did posted "Iconos" schematics here with purpose to let other to see "big secrert"
and also to let them to decide about it. Coils are not important at all here. Coils,
antennas...blah,blah...not important at all. Important is to see inside in "secret" device
cose conversant man can cleary see and understand functionallity according to posted
circuitry. Every electrinc enthusiast with basic, esential knowledge can easily see
if some device is real or nonsence according schematic.
Iconos schematic is good example. Absolute nonsence, by all means!
Cant even detect itself!
What contraproofs you want more???
Do you want to speak about mineoro again? Ha,ha,ha,ha!
Already disected by Carl and few others.Already proved as totall fake!
Everything about mineoro already posted and sayed many times. Photos,proofs everything!
What else do you want? Wanna talk about Zahori???Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Ranger Teller...?? Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Electroscopes...??? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Gravitator...??? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!
Omnitron....ppfffffhahahahahahah!!!!
Are you such short memory!? Dont you rememer all the shame already exposed here on
various LRL "secrets"....ionic chamber!? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!
Now, this time you hooked up to radio???!!! Pffffffha,ah,ah,hhahahahah!!!!
Well....radio is my life, occupation,money...everything!
I work for 25 years as doctor of radio. I know all about radio waves, what is
possible to know. And than you came here and dare to confront my opinion..!???
Ha,ah,hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! !!!!
No, really...what is enough i enough! I cant stand this any more....

You're the only I know that with all supossed doctorates and bla, bla can't design nothing.

And yes, mister, you download "your" diploma from internet!

Proof your doctorate and magistrate! IN LIE!!!

You're pure liar. The schematic you posted isn't Iconos... please...

And not similar...

I insist, there are many kinds of electronic LRL, and you, with your "doctorate" (big lie) and "magistrate" (more big lie) can't design a workable LRL. OK? So you're not able. Sure!!!

[Esteban]

Usted es muy estúpido yo tiene amigo que entiende español muy bien !
Puedo leer y escribir a español también !
Puedo batirle en español también...

Es muy seguro que la estupidez usted la tiene ganada desde el día de su nacimiento. Por lo tanto, usted es el campeón de la estupidez, el Nº 1, masterado, doctorado y magistrado en estupidez.

[Esteban]

Usted es muy estúpido yo tiene amigo que entiende español muy bien !
Puedo leer y escribir a español también !
Puedo batirle en español también...

Grammar Police, help!!!

[Fred]

"Man who thinks he know everything
cannot learn a thing"

Could be a proverb but i just made it up.
Fred.

[Esteban]

"Man who thinks he know everything
cannot learn a thing"

Could be a proverb but i just made it up.
Fred.

I'm not the person who claim that know everything.

Just for the supossed doctorate and magistrate, "Dr. in radio" , ¡¡¡este tipo está volado con marihuana de baja calidad!!!

[Fred]

I'm not the person who claim that know everything.

Just for the supossed doctorate and magistrate, "Dr. in radio" , ¡¡¡este tipo está volado con marihuana de baja calidad!!!

I know Esteban, was not for you...
...Tambien pensé lo mismo ...pero escribo "marijuana"
Fred.

[Clondike Clad]

Why why why will no one post working circuit as proof

If you have a working LRL Show us a circuit so we can test it.
Don't just show a coin found at 30 meters( over 90 feet).
COINS at 30 meters sound like a lie to me.
Show a simple circuit that can be build and tested tested.
I can build a simple metal detector and it will work.
Why can't we build a LRL that will work????????????????????????
Why can't the wave or signal given gold or diamonds be detected.
Are the LRL builders the only one who can detect or build the circuits
ALL I WANT IS THE CIRCUIT AND WAVE FROM GOLD OR DIAMONDS.
Zero in on a coin at 30 meters????????????????????????????????????

[J_Player]

How about posting proof and finds with your LRL.
If you find it show it.
Only real proof only please.

When Clondike Clad started this thread, he asked for only real proof and photos of the finds. We see photos of finds, but where is the proof?

There are only two ways I know to prove a detector will find a target:
1. Watch someone use the detector to find targets and recover them.
2. Build an identical detector and see if it finds a target.

If a radio engineer says a detector can't work, this is not proof of anything except his opinion. It would not matter if this opinion came from a radio engineer, or a professional dishwasher, or a Nobel Prize laureate. It will remain an opinion until the working of the detector has been observed to be true in fact.

In the case of most metal detectors, we have proof they work when we go to the place where people are using them and watch them recover buried metal targets. In the case of Carl's Hammerhead PI, we have proof it works because we can build it from the instructions he provided, and test it in our own hands to see the proof it works. But in the case of LRLs we have neither of these proofs. An internet forum cannot show proof by watching the owners of a LRL recover treasure. But it can easily show proof by showing the schematics and instructions for building our own copy of the detector and testing it in our own hands. But this proof has never been shown like it has been for many other metal detectors.

So what we have is only opinions about whether the LRLs work. No proof. Robert cannot prove they don't work even if he is absolute ruler of the world, or if he is only a professional dishwasher. The only proof that can be shown in an internet forum is a circuit diagram and coil construction details without errors to let people test for themselves if it works. Without this, there is no proof that a LRL works.

So we see only opinions here, when Clondike Clad asked for real proof.

Best wishes,
J_P

[roberts]

Sometimes is very amusing milling in the mud with pigs!
I made syntax and logic error and provoked everybody here to hate me, it is in human nature to adopt certain antagonism upon somebody better.I understand that, typically human. Remember so many genius people through history? Doesnt mean i am genius, of course!
Of course i am not a man who knows everything! Aint such man at all.
I mean - comparing to you i know everything about radio.
But never mind...forget it.
What is funny here is fact that you repeating yourself Esteban...
Think...;you skiped to answer on questions here, you skiped real subject here, and again you want to escape from unpleasant situation by puting me as subject here. Remeber? It was almost the same in the past.
No, this time is not Roberts main subject here, no! This time you MUST answer to peoples questions here...or shut up forever and be ashamed.
Ignore me and my posts, BUT DO NOT IGNORE J PLAYERS QUESTIONS AND OTHERS QUESTION HERE. What was with offering more solid proofs here?
HA? C'mon Esteban you cant escape any more!


P.S.
Of course i made gramatical errors...of course. I dont know Spanish at all, i am just improvizing. Same with English, i dont know it very well and mostly i am imporvizing here. But i do know electronic (unlike you) VERY WELL and i can see you improvizing very bad. It is shamefull you to claim 29 years of experience and showing NOTHING MORE here than empty words..