Post proof of working LRL

[Qiaozhi]

[Qiaozhi]

I did posted "Iconos" schematics here with purpose to let other to see "big secrert"
and also to let them to decide about it. Coils are not important at all here. Coils,
antennas...blah,blah...not important at all. Important is to see inside in "secret" device
cose conversant man can cleary see and understand functionallity according to posted
circuitry. Every electrinc enthusiast with basic, esential knowledge can easily see
if some device is real or nonsence according schematic.
Iconos schematic is good example. Absolute nonsence, by all means!
Cant even detect itself! What contraproofs you want more???

Did I miss something?
What Iconos schematics - where?
It would be interesting to see this nonsense schematic?

[J_Player]

Did I miss something?
What Iconos schematics - where?
It would be interesting to see this nonsense schematic?

Hi Qiaozhi,
If I am not mistaken, the schematic Robert posted was the amazing Robertoro LRL. This was a static detector with a noise filter, kind of an advanced Zahori. I think this is not the same exact circuit that the Iconos uses. Maybe the Iconos uses coils, because I see no telescoping antenna on the Iconos like the amazing Robertoro.

But where is the amazing Robertoro schematic? It was removed from the forum when the old Robert screen name was banned. Maybe Robert can post the schematic for this amazing Robertoro so we can all build it and see in our own hands if LRLs work to find treasure or not.

Best wishes,
J_P

[detectoman]

esteban, un abrazote para usted, y felicidades por sus logros en la eletronica

detectoman

[Esteban]

Hi Qiaozhi,
If I am not mistaken, the schematic Robert posted was the amazing Robertoro LRL. This was a static detector with a noise filter, kind of an advanced Zahori. I think this is not the same exact circuit that the Iconos uses. Maybe the Iconos uses coils, because I see no telescoping antenna on the Iconos like the amazing Robertoro.

But where is the amazing Robertoro schematic? It was removed from the forum when the old Robert screen name was banned. Maybe Robert can post the schematic for this amazing Robertoro so we can all build it and see in our own hands if LRLs work to find treasure or not.

Best wishes,
J_P

No, was the called "Dilliger". Andreas trust in RObert (also called Sony), today Roberts... but RObert decide to post here himself... Do you can remember?

[Esteban]

esteban, un abrazote para usted, y felicidades por sus logros en la eletronica

detectoman

Gracias Detectoman.

Un fuerte abrazo!!!

[J_Player]

No, was the called "Dilliger".
... Do you can remember?

I don't remember. Was this removed when Robert was banned?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
These are very nice photos of the history of your treasure hunting. You have done very well to show photos of finds like Clondike Clad asked for. If you take all your photos, you can make a very nice book of treasure hunting pictures to read at the living room coffee table -- "la Historia de Tesoros de Alonos, Esteban, y los Amigos". But I don't see the real proof Clondike Clad asked for.

Here is an example of real proof. It shows no photos of treasures, only some instructions for building a detector so anyone can use the same detector to see treasures in their own hand. Real proof: http://geotech.thunting.com/pages/me...ead/HHv1p5.pdf

Best wishes,
J_P

... to read at the living room coffee table -- "la Historia de Tesoros de Alonos, Esteban, y los Amigos".

No, be serious!!! I can't desvinculate the finds and the type of electronic LRL involved in each time can do it. Is a very singular history in MD. Also arrive to USA in 1981 and there are, in Texas, 1,000 witnesses of the finds and detector capability. Also in Garrett factory. This is a proof. Investigate you. USA ex Ambassador in Paraguay was witness (he was in the group) of electronic LRD and of the finds of 108 silver and gold objects and small platinum crowm inserted in the head of a saint image dispersed in an extense battlefield. At each find, he exclaim: "Incredivel! Incredivel!" Think was in 1978.

If nobody wish to accept as part of the proof, I can't do nothing for you. If you forgett all I told about it... And if you forgett all you asked me, and reask... So, you have not real interest in it.

Radio courses, radio-magistrate, radio-doctorate or similar is not in his programs electronic LRL.

Regards

Esteban

[J_Player]

... to read at the living room coffee table -- "la Historia de Tesoros de Alonos, Esteban, y los Amigos".

No, be serious!!! I can't desvinculate the finds and the type of electronic LRL involved in each time can do it. Is a very singular history in MD. Also arrive to USA in 1981 and there are, in Texas, 1,000 witnesses of the finds and detector capability. Also in Garrett factory. This is a proof. Investigate you. USA ex Ambassador in Paraguay was witness (he was in the group) of electronic LRD and of the finds of 108 silver and gold objects and small platinum crowm inserted in the head of a saint image dispersed in an extense battlefield. At each find, he exclaim: "Incredivel! Incredivel!" Think was in 1978.

If nobody wish to accept as part of the proof, I can't do nothing for you. If you forgett all I told about it... And if you forgett all you asked me, and reask... So, you have not real interest in it.

This history of your travels to USA and witnessing of officials is exactly what I say is good for your book of treasure history. A book of singular history of the treasures of Esteban and hhis friends -- "La Historia de Tesoros de Alonso, Esteban, y los Amigos". This would be a great book to show all the world photos and tell the stories of your treasure hunting adventures. Nobody has the photos you took, so this would be a new book of the history of LRLs as seen by Esteban. Maybe many people will want to buy this book to keep in their collection.

These photos do not prove that the red pistol detector in your hand will work. They only show photos digging and holding the pistol. But if you want to prove it works, you can read my instruction to make proof in posts above.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

I don't remember. Was this removed when Robert was banned?

Best wishes,
J_P

Of course, schematic was posted by Papanic, another alias of RObert, Roberts, Sony and who knows... Why Papanic was banned in the epoch that was banned RObert and Sony, eh? Do you can see? This is the person who wish "tech" me and you and others in radio and "help me" in radio. Tell me!!! Here there are many Roberts supporters...

Start in page 4 with schematics

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=13237&page=4

[Esteban]

These photos do not prove that the red pistol detector in your hand will work. They only show photos digging and holding the pistol. But if you want to prove it works, you can read my instruction to make proof in posts above.

Best wishes,
J_P

Who is able to dictate these rules?

[Esteban]

I don't remember. Was this removed when Robert was banned?

Best wishes,
J_P

As I said.

[Esteban]

There are only two ways I know to prove a detector will find a target:
1. Watch someone use the detector to find targets and recover them.
2. Build an identical detector and see if it finds a target.

Best wishes,
J_P

This was exactly with me and other users of this kind of detector, observed by 1,000s, include Ambassador, etc.

So, if you watch the real functionment and recover targets, automatically become in true! But if others claim it, automatically is bogus. This is one of the rules? Nice!!!

[Fred]

Hi Esteban,
Do you know what was so special about dilliger antenna? is this similar to your PD ?
Regards,
Fred.

[J_Player]

Who is able to dictate these rules?

Carl dictated the rules for the remote sensing forum. Here are the rules he dictated:

This forum is for the open discussion of either method. Because LRL-oriented forums can quickly degrade into personal conflicts, this forum will be strictly controlled. Rules are still simple:

• You must be a registered user to post here. Guests may read.
• Be polite. Name calling will get you banned quickly.
• Be factual. If you make an extraordinary claim, be prepared to get challenged.

In general, try not to take differences of opinions personally.

The instructions I give are the same method other people in the Geotech forums use to show how their detectors work. They show schematics and instructions to build their detectors. They do not hide the schematics and coil methods. Only people in remote sensing forum will hide the designs. This causes most watchers to think these detectors cannot be proven to work. When people see detectors that make extraordinary claims then they like to challenge like Carl-NC says .. "be prepared to get challenged".

So, if you watch the real functionment and recover targets, automatically become in true! But if others claim it, automatically is bogus. This is one of the rules? Nice!!!

But we cannot watch the real functionment and recover targets like the story from 1981. There is no time machine for us to go back and see the original recovery. But there is the forum for posting the construction details. Then we can build the detector and watch the real functionment and recover targets exactly like the story from 1981. And then the LRL will automatically become in true for all who make the test!

Best wishes,
J_P