Post proof of working LRL

[roberts]

Yes, but one more person said it work,so more people tend to believe...

Fred.

I can bet there are even more people; Hung,Dell, Esteban, Morgan, Michael.....probably much,much more.
This is not really important.Same as not important if i dont beleive or not.
Proves nothing - number of beleivers or sceptics.
What is important is to provide here any material proofs.In this case (forum), only "material" would be possibillty to any other (except proponents) have chance to experience himself simillar experiences like ...Esteban in this case.
Only way to do that is Esteban to post here complete design, so others can make it and test it and finally see is it workable or not.
I really do not understand Estebans reason not doing that?
If he want to protect his intelectual achievements - aint no better way but to come here and be the first one ti post complete project. We have here very serious people, later can be very important witness that Esteban was the ONE who started and posted certain project.
Other way to protect it would be patenting in official patent organisation.
Why not doing that?
If it was working device for real, Esteban could earn much more money by selling project to some big company instead keeping it in secret.
He can come here and claim that money is not important or he is not interested in money,bussiness...OK than that should be even bigger argument to post it here and share with other members.
That way Esteban can get rid of any criticism,scepticism and finally make HUGE WIN upon us - sceptics.
I live in Serbia some 5-6 000 kms away from Paraguay. I am not presenting neither smallest threat to his eventual bussines plans.
Most of us the same. So there is not even theoretical reason to keep any project hidden from public, especially here, where supposed to members share knowledge and projects.
So...respecting all of this, especially having this subject on mind,keeping on mind also simillar things in the past, here, man can pull out only one conclusion - device is not workable,bogus,non existing,fairy tale, sweet dream.etc.etc.
Posting tons of photos, claiming funny claims,constantly reversing thesis,attacking every opsed opinion....doesnt look good at all to me.
Rather look simillar to many previous attempts to make break thorugh in public and earn some attention, eventually some money for nothing.
I also noticed one more thing. Except few very rare cases, huge percent of simillar designs mostly came from very same countries located in south America??? How come?
90% of simillar came from that region? Is it coincidence?
I dont think so..!
Saying this i really do not say that something special is going on there, respecting nature phenomenons or simillar.
That region has its own preferences like any other on planet earth, but not so different to special.
I would rather said this must be somehow related to people's minds there.
Culture,religion, habbits, educational pleads etc.etc.
I live in region where people are usually very restive and pugnacious and sceptics
Among this especiall preference all other preferences are usuall like on any other place on earth.
So dont guess me wrong..i just exposed my observations, collected in time.
I dont think Esteban will change his attitude upon this.
29 years of doing same thing (his words) are not for underestimation, at all.
No matter if he did right thing or wrong..
Only way he can get softer is to give him a time to decide, if he is gonna conintue being member here or maybe is time to left this place and find some better for him..

[Fred]

This is a good example of why a video is no good for proof:This is an excellent example of fake finding, the hole was obviously dig before.
He could have wait one or two days, then it would become impossible to know someone had dig here before.
It looks to me they are well paid to mention the name of the detector.
Regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

OF course the photos show authentic treasures. But they don't prove these treasures were found with the pistol detector. They only show pictures of people with detectors in hand and treasures in hand. I can make similar photos without using any long range treasure machines. Maybe I can make a photo to show a coin in hand, and Robertoro detector in other hand, but Minelabs GPX-4000 metal detector is not shown in photo. Photo does not prove the performance of a metal detector. It only proves that somebody took a picture of the things we see in the image.

If you post a design called "Treasure sensor" that will find treasure farther than a metal detector, then people will be more likely to believe what you say is true and can be verified in their own hands.

Best wishes,
J_P

Except, I can't auto-lying myself during eons of time and collect the photographic evidence for to lie in the internet in prevention the existence this method of communication and this forum... and main if I'm not seller and I'm don't commerce with it in any manner...

[J_Player]

Except, I can't auto-lying myself during eons of time and collect the photographic evidence for to lie in the internet in prevention the existence this method of communication and this forum... and main if I'm not seller and I'm don't commerce with it in any manner...

Also true: A small child does not auto-lying when he takes pictures of Christmas presents 3 consecutive years to prove Santa Claus rides in a flying sled full of presents. Small child is not seller and does not commerce in Christmas presents. But still there are many skeptics who want to see real proof in their hands of this flying sled with presents. Same as forum readers want to see real proof in their hands of LRL finding treasure from longer distance than a metal detector. Not just photographs that do not prove Santa Clause flying sled or LRL finding long distance.

Best wishes,
J_P

[roberts]

It is obvious that you lying everybody else here. It is absolutelly clear.
This saga continues in same old manner.
Just see old threads with simillar subject.
Blah,blah,blah....are all benefits from your posts, nothing else.
So you are photos collector. So what?
You like taking photos from your adventures. You collected huge pile of photos.Ok.Nice.
Doesnt mean we have to be tortured here with your photos. So far as i saw, nobody really gave a s.it about your photos. You are posting your photos here and later enjoy watching them.Funny!
Looks like you intend to post milion more simillar posts with million more funny photos here. Ok, your right to do that (since administrator allowed that kind of uncontrolled behavior), but at least stop telling fairy tles here any more.
I dont need to prove yor lies. I havent started this thread, i havent opened any subject here. You must prove a lot of things cose you started all.

[roberts]

J Player let it be. Just ignore and disregard him from now on.
He survived so far cose we payed some attention on his nonsences.
Once we start to ignore and disregard him, he will disapear very quick.
I give him few days, not more.

OK esteban, enjoy your "working" device, be happy. Keep it for your self.
I said many times and many times broke my word, but now is real end. I will never post neither one word refering you and your nonsences any more.
Of course i will ignore everything from you, no matter what you start in future. You will be disregarded permanently. I am the first one to do that, but not the last one.You will see. Goodbye forever. You dont exist any more.

[J_Player]

If we have a schematic with instructions to build a working LRL then everyone who builds it will see proof in their hands that the LRL works to find treasures at long range. If we see this LRL working like Esteban says to find long range targets, then everyone will believe Esteban is right and Robert is wrong.

If we find treasures from long distance with a LRL in our own hands then we will believe Esteban if he says Robert is not a good radio engineer, and we will believe all stories of Esteban's treasures found with LRLs.

But if we see that there is never a LRL we can use in our own hands to find long range treasures, then we cannot say Robert is a bad engineer of radio. We can only say Esteban wants us to believe from photos, same as children with photos of Christmas presents want us to believe Santa travels in a flying sled.

Does this sound right to you?

Best wishes,
J_P

[roberts]

Roberts is a real doctor of Physics. Roberts did more than a half of his life as professional...
But this is not important any more.
We argued about radio,455kHz,bfo...blah,blah,blah...
I will give you a hint;
watch this...

http://www.diylife.com/2007/11/29/radio-tape-calculator-metal-detector/

[J_Player]

I will give you a hint;
watch this...

Dang... It's a RF metal detector! But wait... it does not detect as far as a conventional metal detector. I guess this is not a LRL. Maybe we should call it SRL for short range locating.

Are you the famous radio engineer who designed the AM radio in this SRL? Did you also design the calculator?
I think Ranger Tell stole your idea to sell hundreds of calculators for $799.00

Best wishes,
J_P

[roberts]

...BFO ( beat frequency oscillator ) principle used in metal detectors could be explained as use of two oscillators, each of which produces a radio frequency. One of these oscillators uses a coil of wire that we call the search loop. The second oscillator uses a much smaller coil of wire, and is usually inside the control box and is called the reference oscillator. By adjusting the oscillators so their frequencies are very nearly the same, the difference between them is made audible as a beat note, this beat note changes slightly when the search loop is moved over or near to a piece of metal. It has been found in practice best to make the search oscillator fixed say at 100khz and to arrange for the reference oscillator to be adjustable 100khz plus or minus 250hz. This gives a beat note of 250hz to 0 to 250hz. The beat note disappears or nulls when the two oscillators are about equal. This type of detector is most sensitive when the beat note is close to zero, about 5hz any slight change being noticeable.Do you find any connection here?
Noe please, return to very begining of this thread, at 1. page, and read all i've being talking about...
Regards!

[roberts]

No matter how wild you design your "antennas", "search heads" or whatever....do know that coupling with metal object is not possible on more than few inches! So yes, you are right; it is SRL not LRL!

[J_Player]

[Seden]

RS Project stalled

Well now I understand why there hasn't been a post on the RS project forum since 1-23. Too bad as it sure had alot of momentum at the begining. I couldn't keep up with the fast paced posts that were popping up rapid fire.

I'm leary of anything that claims to be an LRL that uses a transmitter instead of just a passive receiver using the existing natural fields.

Having said that if Esteban posted a complete schematic including the details of the antenna and or sensors, I'd probably build it as Estebans about the only person I know of whos been working on LRL's for the past 30 years. I hope he does come out with a book and includes detailed info so the reader can order the parts and sit down and build it.

Randy

[Geo]

I hope he does come out with a book and includes detailed info so the reader can order the parts and sit down and build it.

Randy

Except if details are the same as at RS forum
Regards

[Esteban]

Except if details are the same as at RS forum
Regards

Maybe Morgan has not the necessary intrumental, for example, frequencimeter and inductimeter. Also a simple measurement of continuity in the switch for to know properly the different contacts made by the switch...