Post proof of working LRL

[Esteban]

Hola Esteban, gusto en saludarte despues de algun tiempo.
Te escribo en español, debido a que me es mas facil intentar explicar mi opinion relaconada con los detectores de largo alcance.
Sinceramente si creo en que deben funcionar, pero reconosco que hay momentos en que dudo de elo. Sin embargo, siempre tengo presente cosas como por ejemplo, que la energía sea cual sea, debe trasladarse de alguna manera. Yo con mas de 20 años de radioaficionado, se positivamente que una señal de radio la podemos hacer rebotar en un cerro y asi logra una mejor comunicación que si esta se intentara en forma directa (señal VHF).
Para que esto ocurra, indudablemente necesitamos por ejemplo que el cerro que hara rebotar mi señal, tenga algun gado de material que permita el rebote y esto ocurre generalmente gracias a la mineralización de los cerros, es decir los metales que este contenga. Por lo tanto, si creo es posible por medio de un aparato X, obtener algun tipo de rebote o algo asi y sumado a la velociad de propagación, dependiendo del tipo de metal, se lograría la clasificación del mismo. Ahora, cuando muchos dicen que estos aparatos no funcionan, puede deberso a varios factores que afectan la propagación de ondas, ejemplo, el fenomeno denominado inversión térmica.
En cuanto a la radioestesia o dowsing, se positivamente de muchisimas personas aquí en Chile, que logran detectar agua en el campo y solo con una varilla de madera.
En estos días que estaré de vacaciones en casa, pretendo armar uno de estos aparatos y me gustaría me indiques alguno de los tantos modelos con los que podría empezar, para porbar en este tema. He visto el zahori, desechado por algunos, pero creo sinceramente, que les falto experimentar mas y en condiciones optimas.
A la espera de tus comentarios y apoyo , me depido y reuego me disculpe el foro por escribir en español, pero lalmentablemente mi nivel de ingles no es tan alto como para tradicir todo lo escrito.
Ahora si no te molesto, podrí continur mis comentarios en español, pero a través de correo electrónico.
Gracias
Atte.
Nelson Lepe T.

Hola Nelson. Gracias por todo. Te estaría enviando alguna información. Detectar un tesoro con unas pocas vueltas de alambre a la entrada de un amplificador y otra circuitería más se puede lograr a una distancia de 20-30 m, estamos hablando de un tesoro, no de monedas sueltas, que es más difícil, pero no imposible.

A otro tema. El problema del Zahorí es que debe ser usada la versión con un solo control de 10 K y eliminar el resto, es decir, poner todo fijo y desconectar la pata 9 de negativo, mejor dicho, no usar las llaves y otros detalles que te puedo pasar. Lo que pasa es que construyeron la otra versión, parece.

No obstante, estoy haciendo otro Zahorí que parece responder bien. Es este el que quiero probar y pasarte los datos.

Estamos en contacto y mucha buena suerte en tus búsquedas, amigo de Chile.

Esteban

[Esteban]

I like these photos. I don't say they are not satisfying. I only say they do not make scientific proof that LRL can find treasure at long range.

Best wishes,
J_P

OK, just is called the famous "photographic evidence", not scientific proof.

No really scientific proof or no traces of the neutrino you can see, only is present in a formula and a supossed oscillation? Has been constructed special detectors at depth in the Earth. But the scientific is laureates by this...

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Hi,
can you post the original tube based schematic of year 1959 ? Or the schematic must remain secret stuff ?

Maybe that could give some better understanding of these things... if you can post it.

Kind regards,
Max

Deppend of permission. Remember that I was post a handrawn of the position of detector with the 2 coils, electromechanical vibrator, etc. Tubes are two 6L6, 1 in transmitter, other in receiver and the detection was hearing in 2,000 ohms earphones. Look, first was a table with the elements...!!! Alonso wish to rebuild it because as, he told me, distance with this was superior. Coils had 30 turns. Maybe somebody can find in old messages, I post 2 years ago??

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

I remember these was posted (color pics are in USA 1981 and 1985, two trips).

[J_Player]

OK, just is called the famous "photographic evidence", not scientific proof.

No really scientific proof or no traces of the neutrino you can see, only is present in a formula and a supossed oscillation? Has been constructed special detectors at depth in the Earth. But the scientific is laureates by this...

Nobody asked for nutrinos. We asked for simple proof of finding treasure in our hand, same as any other metal detector design in the Geotech forum will show. Other metal detectors are proved to work. Only LRL fails to show this proof. Same as Santa Claus is not proved to be true.

Metal detector in hand finding treasures is real proof.
LRL that brings nothing but photos and stories is Santa Claus proof.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Metal detector in hand finding treasures is real proof.

Also directional pistol for long range can do:

The cup with nine gold 24 K plates inside was found with LRL pistol based on coil (BFO) and radio near a stream and bridge. Don't remember the year, maybe 1978 or 1979.

[Fred]

Hi Esteban

If there is so many diferent tecnhiques that work for LRL, why you cant post a schematic?
What is the point to show pictures of found items and try to prove it works if you are not going to sell or show how to make a similar detector ?

Regards,
Fred.

[Clondike Clad]

We need a circuit to build not a photo( it could be a fake)

Now with a circuit we can build and test.....THE KEY WORD IS TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST.......Anyo ne can put a photo up and say it was found with a LRL I can put a photo of me on the Moon.
So Let us make a working LRL Circuit...IT only have to detect a coin 10 meters and no 30 meters...I really like to make one to detect my wife's diamond ring I also have a 1/3 oz gold in my test garden.

[J_Player]

Real proof same as Esteban real proof

He says he is Santa Claus, and this sled really flies in the sky. He told me he will bring me a new Lorenz metal detector at Christmas next year and a few kilos of gold treasure from sunk Spanish ships too. Millions of people also say he is true. I will not show construction plans for building this sled. It is secret, and is in negotiations to be marketed to a commercial airline next year.

Here is a photo to prove. (I can show many more).
Now you must believe me because I show photo.

[Clondike Clad]

How fast is Santa sled

Look like a good one how fast and higt can the sled go.
It is like the photo of what he LRL are finding and I now believe in santa.

[Esteban]

He says he is Santa Claus, and this sled really flies in the sky. He told me he will bring me a new Lorenz metal detector at Christmas next year and a few kilos of gold treasure from sunk Spanish ships too. Millions of people also say he is true. I will not show construction plans for building this sled. It is secret, and is in negotiations to be marketed to a commercial airline next year.

Here is a photo to prove. (I can show many more).
Now you must believe me because I show photo.

I know persons don't believe in electronic long range pistols for metal detection but believe in the UFOs!

[Esteban]

Look like a good one how fast and higt can the sled go.
It is like the photo of what he LRL are finding and I now believe in santa.

You're free for to believe in anyone or anything you want.

[Esteban]

Now with a circuit we can build and test.....THE KEY WORD IS TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST,TEST.......Anyo ne can put a photo up and say it was found with a LRL I can put a photo of me on the Moon.
So Let us make a working LRL Circuit...IT only have to detect a coin 10 meters and no 30 meters...I really like to make one to detect my wife's diamond ring I also have a 1/3 oz gold in my test garden.

Not necessary your photo in the Moon. Any person can pose with supossed findings with regular MD... but those items wasn't found for this person... only pose. Exact as most of you assure that I pose with supossed findings with supossed long range metal locator...

[Fred]

Hi Esteban

If there is so many diferent tecnhiques that work for LRL, why you cant post a schematic?
What is the point to show pictures of found items and try to prove it works if you are not going to sell or show how to make a similar detector ?

Regards,
Fred.

Hi Esteban

If there is so many diferent tecnhiques that work for LRL, why you cant post a schematic?
What is the point to show pictures of found items and try to prove it works if you are not going to sell or show how to make a similar detector ?

Regards,
Fred.

[Geo]

He says he is Santa Claus, and this sled really flies in the sky. He told me he will bring me a new Lorenz metal detector at Christmas next year and a few kilos of gold treasure from sunk Spanish ships too. Millions of people also say he is true. I will not show construction plans for building this sled. It is secret, and is in negotiations to be marketed to a commercial airline next year.

Here is a photo to prove. (I can show many more).
Now you must believe me because I show photo.

I believe you
Regards