Post O scope of signal from gold or diamond

[Clondike Clad]

Ok i ask to see the LRL and next the proof of it working.
Post the signal being detected by a LRL the signal form gold,silver or diamond
and if so paper MONEY.
All I want to know is the information so i can test the working of this LRL stuff.On a VLF,PI or TR and BFO detector we can test and show the signal on a scope.WHY NOT A LRL?????????
So please post the signal your LRL is picking up.

[Esteban]

I can't to imagine running in the inland, forest, etc., with an oscilloscope or similar instrument trying to capture the phenomenon in a screen.

Regards

Esteban

[Clondike Clad]

phenomenon

What is the phenomenon and how do electronics pick it up.
A tr,vlf,pi or bfo signal can be picked up why can't a LRL.
if the phenomenon as it is called can be picked up with electronics WHY CAN'T WE SHOW THE SIGNAL FOR DIAMONDS,GOLD, SILVER AND PAPER MONEY. 30 METERS FOR A COIN..WHY CAN'T WE SEE THE "phenomenon"
THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE "phenomenon" IS IT EMF,IR,WHAT IS IT?
ALL I WANT TO DO IS TO DETECT THE SIGNAL OR AS IT IS PUT THE "phenomenon"

[joecoin]

I can't to imagine running in the inland, forest, etc., with an oscilloscope or similar instrument trying to capture the phenomenon in a screen.

Regards

Esteban

You could use this.

[J_Player]

What is the phenomenon and how do electronics pick it up.
A tr,vlf,pi or bfo signal can be picked up why can't a LRL.

According to LRL experimenters, the target signal can be picked up at long distances. This is done in the receiving coil or antenna. The target signal is then processed and amplified to indicate on a beeper or meter. If the signal cannot be picked up with electronics, then the LRL user would be left with radionics or guessing to "sense" the signal.

Since the target signal is claimed to be picked up at the receiving antenna, then an oscilloscope would be able to display this target signal. An oscilloscope can display the signal when away from AC power by using an inverter to run from the car battery. There are also small battery powered oscilloscopes that work away from AC power.

Of course, this is all unproven theory, and will not work to display a target signal unless the LRL actually works to receive a target signal.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

you ask the impossible I think !

You could use this.

Hi,
yes he could do... but why he have to do ?

I think he knows what kind of signals or variations there are (if any) ... so he doesn't need scope on the forest to know what's going on... assuming all these LRLs work and are not just self convincements... selective memory stuff... etc etc etc

If he will show you the signals or signals variations maybe you'll understand which principle is behind that things... the OPERATING principle I mean (always... cause I'm skeptic... IF IT EXIST FOR REAL).

Now... do you think really he wanna tell you or show pictures of that ?

I think not... cause otherwise he posted already that stuff here... are years now we are talking about the same things and that we're making same polemics here... the same as in Robert's post... I've done myself for a number of months.

If any principle exist... he will not tell you about... will not show pictures of it... you will not get anything useful to build device or similar stuff ... but just will see some block diagram or minimized schematics and some old photos. You know already.

So... or you belive his words as them are... without proofs I mean, or you'll better just ignore all this stuff of LRL and start building your next conventional metal detector.

Really easy !

Kind regards,
Max

[Clondike Clad]

LRL and signals

Carl has many LRL units and still can't find any signals being detected.
What is it that is being picked up????????????????????????????????????
No test cant picked up the signal but What is it about the LRL circuit that is picking up a undetected signal.If electronics is being use to pick up a signal.
THE SIGNAL CAN BE DETECTED OR REPRODUCE ON A SCOPE.

[Max]

Carl has many LRL units and still can't find any signals being detected.
What is it that is being picked up????????????????????????????????????
No test cant picked up the signal but What is it about the LRL circuit that is picking up a undetected signal.If electronics is being use to pick up a signal.
THE SIGNAL CAN BE DETECTED OR REPRODUCE ON A SCOPE.

Hi,
yes but Carl hasn't any Esteban's PD to test ...or Alonso homemade etc as far as I remember but just Mineoro's and others well known not working devices mass produced.

My post of above was only referred to Esteban's stuff that's claimed to be working (by Esteban I mean... not by me)... and related to joecoin question about scope diagrams... from field tests.

I think that he will not post here that scope tracings... but maybe I'm worng on that.

Kind regards,
Max

[Seden]

Years worth of the same

Max,

I think the only exception to this is Andreas circuit. I wonder if anyone has built it?

Like I stated above, except for using Earth's natural waves, your not going to get much distance with a hand held unit and plus with a transmitter your FIGHTING against the background radiation instead of working with it. I'm toying with building a multi-source detector to locate gold ores. Using Gamma rays,mercury vapor detection,ULF receiver for .5hz and say 2hz for Natural Force spectral induced polarization and a flux gate sensor for the magnetic field detection. Have all these sensors convert their readings to a voltage based on the type of soil/deposit,assign a weighting to the values based on importance and build up a look up table by visiting known placer or lode mines.

Would be easy with some of the cheap new 8051's out there. So many options to choose from now. Maybe an 8051 based Analog Devices ADUC might fill the bill,will have to see.
But from being on this forum several years we have gone round and round and no final complete project from start to finish so this is what I'm going to do and it will qualify as a Medium Range Locator hopefully. I'm looking real closely to Anthony Barringers latest Patent as he's always been on the cutting edge with Aircraft mineral exploration with several decades of experience under his belt. I look to air exploration as it is a LRL for real,so will see. There's also a VLF receiver scheme whereby the inventor monitored the lighting strikes and found when over a oil or mineral deposit would receive more strikes (I don't know if it's a factor of it being highly mineralized,kinda like being out on the ocean with the huge conductive ground plane which allows you much better reception than being on land?). I've got the VLF receiver already built as of this weekend.

So these are my thoughts. The more different parameters we can use, the better our chances of detection and discrimination.

Randy

[Esteban]

I remember that maybe 15 years ago this was taken. When gold was detected a phototransistor catch the small difference and produce the audio.

[Clondike Clad]

Transister

Gold and light.....is the gold giving off light what wavelink that is detected.

[roberts]

Gold and light.....is the gold giving off light what wavelink that is detected.

[Clondike Clad]

Light

Come on don't laugh i had to ask the question you see the diagram.
A PHOTO TRANSISTOR I had to ask the question.
Now please don't make me laugh at the PHOTO TRANSISTOR SENSOR.

[Esteban]

Come on don't laugh i had to ask the question you see the diagram.
A PHOTO TRANSISTOR I had to ask the question.
Now please don't make me laugh at the PHOTO TRANSISTOR SENSOR.

Laugh, but you don't know why this implementation. This be very happy me!

[Clondike Clad]

Photo transistor

Laugh, but you don't know why this implementation. This be very happy me!

Ok now let us get back to this LRL stuff.
What is it that hte photo transistor is picking up.
I would like to test this