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  • #91
    Originally posted by hung View Post
    The phenomena produced by long time buried gold and noble metals have been exaustively explained in Mineoro's site and were studied by two gentlemen, Damasio and Alonso for fity years.
    The main idea has been featured in their site for almost five years now. If some people here still cannot conprehend it in 5 years, then not even in 500 years they will do. Of course, there's no 'recipe for the cake'. Or do you really think there will ever be????

    If some readers check past posts from that era they will read how members here including the administrator, called it non sense since then. So lately, all of a suden the long time geoskepthics seem to accept now there's something going on.
    Hummm.... Kids have grown up fast...

    PS. Esteban, don't fall for skepthics' 'bait', although it appears to taste 'sweet'.
    Just because someone has posted a pseudo-scientific explanation for a non-existent phenomenon on the internet for 5 years doesn't make it true.
    Rubbish theories are still rubbish theories, however many times you try to promote them.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by hung
      The phenomena produced by long time buried gold and noble metals have been exaustively explained in Mineoro's site
      The Mineoro site has posted information that is wrong for years. Most of what they posted is pseudoscience and advertising propaganda. None of the errors or pseudoscience from the Mineoro website will appear in my post about long time buried metals.

      But what you have posted is not just wrong. It is completely stupid.
      You posted information about the Ranger tell "shooting signal lines that are returned", and about broadcasting equipment inside, and even trying to prove that the calculator sends out coded treasure signals that change frequency after pressing keystrokes. As I recall, when challenged about these things, you then changed your story, and even lied about what you previously said. Do you still believe that gold has DNA which produces a substance that coats the surface to protect it against corrosion?

      Considering all the great science you have posted here, I would think your ability to determine scientific facts to be just slightly better than Dell Winder's technical ability. While Esteban has established himself as one of the most dedicated experimenters in the world for detection of long-time buried metals in this forum, you have established yourself as a clown who posts false information, apparently trying to gain the respect you see people like Esteban and michael have.

      I think Esteban can decide for himself if he wants to send me PMs about his ideas or not.
      Oh, by the way, you can send me PMs about your ideas too if you wish. But I have serious doubts they will find their way into the article I am writing about long-time buried metals.

      Best wishes,
      J_P

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      • #93
        Originally posted by hung View Post
        The phenomena produced by long time buried gold and noble metals have been exaustively explained in Mineoro's site

        Actually in Germany's OKM site as well.
        "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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        • #94
          Originally posted by hung View Post
          Actually in Germany's OKM site as well.
          Thus proving once and for all that it's complete nonsense.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by hung View Post
            The phenomena produced by long time buried gold and noble metals have been exaustively explained in Mineoro's site and were studied by two gentlemen, Damasio and Alonso for fity years.
            The main idea has been featured in their site for almost five years now. If some people here still cannot conprehend it in 5 years, then not even in 500 years they will do.
            Wish Science and pseudo scientific phenomena may be proposed (and repeated) for as many years as you wish to mouth such nonsense. Nevertheless, not in 5, or 500 or 5000 years will the repeating of nonsense theories cause them to be validated.

            If the concept, as proposed, had any merit whatsoever, it would have been substantiated and accepted through basic rational scientific methods years ago. However, like all other "wish" and "nonsense" theories; the idea that long time buried metals are somehow emitting detectable fields, will remain as just another pseudo scientific theory, which is totally unable to be advanced into the realm of rational science and physics. Sorry

            BTW, when does the debunkering begin?

            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Theseus View Post
              BTW, when does the debunkering begin?
              I think he actually means "debunking", but what the hell?

              In answer to your question ... probably about the same time that an LRL really finds gold.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                If the concept, as proposed, had any merit whatsoever, it would have been substantiated and accepted through basic rational scientific methods years ago. However, like all other "wish" and "nonsense" theories; the idea that long time buried metals are somehow emitting detectable fields, will remain as just another pseudo scientific theory, which is totally unable to be advanced into the realm of rational science and physics. Sorry
                To be fair, i dont think anyone (except Hung ) says the metal is transmiting any field, but absorbing or modifying an existing one.
                Maybe JP´s article will bring light on all this, if he can resist the same "pressions" that Esteban is receiving.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by hung View Post
                  Actually in Germany's OKM site as well.
                  Uhm... all teh times you're wrong!
                  Nothing is still explained using physics... just pseudo-theories and fanatic claims from many lrl-druids!

                  Or do you still say there are air-borne ions that mineoro's sniff using some (supposed by you) "ionic chamber" !?

                  Kind regards,
                  Max

                  "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                  But we dont need a reason
                  "

                  someone said...

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                    Wish Science and pseudo scientific phenomena may be proposed (and repeated) for as many years as you wish to mouth such nonsense. Nevertheless, not in 5, or 500 or 5000 years will the repeating of nonsense theories cause them to be validated.

                    If the concept, as proposed, had any merit whatsoever, it would have been substantiated and accepted through basic rational scientific methods years ago. However, like all other "wish" and "nonsense" theories; the idea that long time buried metals are somehow emitting detectable fields, will remain as just another pseudo scientific theory, which is totally unable to be advanced into the realm of rational science and physics. Sorry

                    BTW, when does the debunkering begin?
                    One thing is repeating nonsense theories and other thing is out in the field with instruments (pistol) and see what happens. If your pistol can't found old good relics (copper, bronze, silver, gold) in relic areas, for example, thus this pistol doesn't work. Science is rational, but some thinks in nature appears "irrational". When this can be "probed", for miracle is converted in rational.

                    At this time I obtain results from different kinds of sensors, called antennas (in this category is the loop), coil, infrared and others. Also I saw regular long distance with common tweeter transmitter and tweeter receiver made by Alonso. For my part I don't try ultrasonic. But this also is useful.

                    But the remarcable effect of "emission" by old targets you can check only with an instrument wich expand a short 20 ns pulse 100,000,000 times. Of course, here you need rapid transistors in input.

                    A proposal:

                    1. You and your friends can join US$ 50,000 for to see all in the terrain. Alonso and I can travel to USA location rich in relics, can be Carolina, the Carl's state. You can divide the money between 20 persons (you decide the quantity, but not more 20 persons), wich can travel in 4 or 5 vans. The persons wich help in diggin and others "secretaries" are not affected by the expenses, I think. Every other person wich wish to participate will be pay US$ 2,500, each.

                    2. You can to film and take photos and sell the film. If film generate good money, we wish a percentage.

                    3. We can made the pistol in front your eyes. I think that cheap materials are not an excesive expense.

                    4. Tickets with return for the travel via airplane must be considered from your part. Also a room and a few of food.

                    5. The targets diggin are for all you, except treasure. Treasure will be divided according laws and other.

                    This is the only manner you'll be "convinced" .

                    Regards

                    Esteban

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                    • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                      One thing is repeating nonsense theories and other thing is out in the field with instruments (pistol) and see what happens. If your pistol can't found old good relics (copper, bronze, silver, gold) in relic areas, for example, thus this pistol doesn't work. Science is rational, but some thinks in nature appears "irrational". When this can be "probed", for miracle is converted in rational.

                      At this time I obtain results from different kinds of sensors, called antennas (in this category is the loop), coil, infrared and others. Also I saw regular long distance with common tweeter transmitter and tweeter receiver made by Alonso. For my part I don't try ultrasonic. But this also is useful.

                      But the remarcable effect of "emission" by old targets you can check only with an instrument wich expand a short 20 ns pulse 100,000,000 times. Of course, here you need rapid transistors in input.

                      A proposal:

                      1. You and your friends can join US$ 50,000 for to see all in the terrain. Alonso and I can travel to USA location rich in relics, can be Carolina, the Carl's state. You can divide the money between 20 persons (you decide the quantity, but not more 20 persons), wich can travel in 4 or 5 vans. The persons wich help in diggin and others "secretaries" are not affected by the expenses, I think. Every other person wich wish to participate will be pay US$ 2,500, each.

                      2. You can to film and take photos and sell the film. If film generate good money, we wish a percentage.

                      3. We can made the pistol in front your eyes. I think that cheap materials are not an excesive expense.

                      4. Tickets with return for the travel via airplane must be considered from your part. Also a room and a few of food.

                      5. The targets diggin are for all you, except treasure. Treasure will be divided according laws and other.

                      This is the only manner you'll be "convinced" .

                      Regards

                      Esteban
                      Uhm... ultrasonic things seems much like rodent repellers...

                      What do you mean ? That Alonso converted a rodent repeller in an LRL !????

                      Seems funny....

                      Can you explain how the hell it's supposed to work ??? Seems truly impossible stuff...

                      Kind regards,
                      Max

                      "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                      But we dont need a reason
                      "

                      someone said...

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                      • Originally posted by Max View Post
                        Uhm... ultrasonic things seems much like rodent repellers...

                        What do you mean ? That Alonso converted a rodent repeller in an LRL !????

                        Seems funny....

                        Can you explain how the hell it's supposed to work ??? Seems truly impossible stuff...

                        Kind regards,
                        Max
                        Ultrasonic is used for many purposes, also for to detect imperfections into metals and constructions... not only for rodent repeller. Tweeter transmitt ultrasonic as an ultrasonic ray. Only Alonso can be explain properly. Seems he eliminate the coil and use only the transducer.

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                        • Like Ultrasonic MD

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                          • Originally posted by humhum View Post
                            Can you please translate the words on this diagram?

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                            • PHENOMENON

                              Originally posted by Fred View Post
                              To be fair, i dont think anyone (except Hung ) says the metal is transmiting any field, but absorbing or modifying an existing one.
                              Maybe JP´s article will bring light on all this, if he can resist the same "pressions" that Esteban is receiving.
                              Hi Fred

                              My field test is open for you or others from this forum to investigate the PHENOMENON of buried gold and metals. I only want respect,not dig this metals i buried 20 years ago to try simple MD´s.
                              The PENOMENON exist,and some days is more strong,others more weak and everybody can see it irradiate more distance to NORT direction,so Alonso and Damasio are absolutly corretc.
                              If someone is interested to see ,send PM to me.

                              Regards

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                              • Esteban sell his LRL knolenge

                                Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                                One thing is repeating nonsense theories and other thing is out in the field with instruments (pistol) and see what happens. If your pistol can't found old good relics (copper, bronze, silver, gold) in relic areas, for example, thus this pistol doesn't work. Science is rational, but some thinks in nature appears "irrational". When this can be "probed", for miracle is converted in rational.

                                At this time I obtain results from different kinds of sensors, called antennas (in this category is the loop), coil, infrared and others. Also I saw regular long distance with common tweeter transmitter and tweeter receiver made by Alonso. For my part I don't try ultrasonic. But this also is useful.

                                But the remarcable effect of "emission" by old targets you can check only with an instrument wich expand a short 20 ns pulse 100,000,000 times. Of course, here you need rapid transistors in input.

                                A proposal:

                                1. You and your friends can join US$ 50,000 for to see all in the terrain. Alonso and I can travel to USA location rich in relics, can be Carolina, the Carl's state. You can divide the money between 20 persons (you decide the quantity, but not more 20 persons), wich can travel in 4 or 5 vans. The persons wich help in diggin and others "secretaries" are not affected by the expenses, I think. Every other person wich wish to participate will be pay US$ 2,500, each.

                                2. You can to film and take photos and sell the film. If film generate good money, we wish a percentage.

                                3. We can made the pistol in front your eyes. I think that cheap materials are not an excesive expense.

                                4. Tickets with return for the travel via airplane must be considered from your part. Also a room and a few of food.

                                5. The targets diggin are for all you, except treasure. Treasure will be divided according laws and other.

                                This is the only manner you'll be "convinced" .

                                Regards

                                Esteban
                                Hello Esteban

                                Are you sure your cousin Alonso agree with this ideia ?

                                Dont you think $ 50,000 is little money for all yours and Alonso searches in LRL area ?

                                I think you can go to USA ,make the LRL SHOW but not teach how to build the PD

                                That´s my opinion,but you can do wath you want...

                                Regards

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