postLRL circuit for coin at two meter

[Clondike Clad]

FOCUSED

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Because you and others aren't focused in it... major part of time.

WHAT TE HELL IS THIS FOCUSED $HIT..WHAT DO YOU THINK I WAS DOING ON THIS FORUM
WHY DON'T YOU POST A WORKING CIRCUIT

[Aziz]

WHY CAN'T WE BUILD A WORKING LRL WHAT ABOUT 1 METER LRL FOR A COIN????? wHY CAN'T CARL OR ROBERT BUILD A WORKING UNIT.
CAN SOMEONE SHOW ME A WORKING CIRCUIT FIR LEARNING?????????????
I CAN BUILD A PI,BFO,TR ETC BUT NOT A LRL.... WHAT IS MISSING.

Because,

you can not override the physics behind the nature! A serious engineer, with physics & math knowledge do not believe in detecting of anything at long distance. All the stuff of LRL is not serious engineering and science.

That's my opinion.

[Qiaozhi]

Because,

you can not override the physics behind the nature! A serious engineer, with physics & math knowledge do not believe in detecting of anything at long distance. All the stuff of LRL is not serious engineering and science.

That's my opinion.

Careful ... you are now entering the Twilight Zone!
On this forum, only pseudoscience is King. A single coin detected from over a mile away ... no problem. You can do that with a modified BFO.

In case you haven't done this already - please read the previous diatribe on this forum. You will see that rational scientific reasoning has no place here. Only selective memory, wishful thinking, and self deception are the tools of the trade.
LRLs are better studied with psychology than physics. But it can be fun to lurk here from time to time.

[Fred]

Because,

you can not override the physics behind the nature! A serious engineer, with physics & math knowledge do not believe in detecting of anything at long distance. All the stuff of LRL is not serious engineering and science.

That's my opinion.

This is more complex than that.Are you saying it is beyong physics that a small (metallic) object can be detected a few hundred meters or miles away ?
Regards,
Fred.

[Seden]

Please Explain Fred

Fred,

I would like to hear how a small metallic object can be detected at great distances. I too have problems with that unless your in a helicopter or plane looking at a mineral deposit which has been done for decades. But to do it standing on the ground is illogical so please reveal the complex anwer and I promise to keep an open mind. I am grateful we've put to bed the idiotic notion of ion detection. I just bought a book that goes into photoionic spectroscopy as well as Auger Spectroscopy and both study the ion emissions of Ultra-short UV (the former) and plasma (Auger) and are done in a VACUUM because the ions are too easily dispersed in open air-SURPRISE!

Randy

[Morgan]

LRL Information

Hi Morgan,
If these members are getting better performance than Alonso PD, and you say "poor E. Engineers from this forum, i feel sorry for them,they cant get coin at 35~50cm air tests...", then which is the reason for not posting instructions to build this LRL?

Is it reason number 1, or could it be reason number 3?
Best wishes,
J_P

Hello J_P

I put my PD working,badly but it works,i can share with Forum everything.
But if people here are lazy or not believe in my results,THIS IS ANOTHER STORY !

Regards

[Fred]

Fred,

I would like to hear how a small metallic object can be detected at great distances. I too have problems with that unless your in a helicopter or plane looking at a mineral deposit which has been done for decades. But to do it standing on the ground is illogical so please reveal the complex anwer and I promise to keep an open mind. I am grateful we've put to bed the idiotic notion of ion detection. I just bought a book that goes into photoionic spectroscopy as well as Auger Spectroscopy and both study the ion emissions of Ultra-short UV (the former) and plasma (Auger) and are done in a VACUUM because the ions are too easily dispersed in open air-SURPRISE!

Randy

Hi ,
First i would like to say that i (unfortunaltely) don´t know the secret.But i don´t agree to block-reject long range detection just because simple unballance of a coil cannot be detected beyong a certain distance. There may be other factors involved ,external reactions with the object and interactions that it may be possible to use.
Exoplanets invisible by direct observation,can be detected by measuring the aparent movement of their sun.
I am not saying LRL´s work, what i am saying is that i cannot reject LRL´s just because the detection methods i do know are not compatible with it.

Best Regards,
Fred.
Your book look interesting.can you tell the title? Tnx.

[Dell Winders]

I am grateful we've put to bed the idiotic notion of ion detection. I just bought a book that goes into photoionic spectroscopy as well as Auger Spectroscopy and both study the ion emissions of Ultra-short UV (the former) and plasma (Auger) and are done in a VACUUM because the ions are too easily dispersed in open air-SURPRISE!

I've been watching you guys trying to figure that one out for a long, long time. Congratulations on a brief squirt of intelligence. Now.all you have to do is prove it and collect $50,000. Dell

[J_Player]

You mean we can't use them convenient ions floating in the air to find treasure any more?

[Seden]

Spectroscopy Book

Fred,

The title is: Ultraviolet Photoelectron and Photoion Spectroscopy Auger Electron Spectroscopy Plasma Excitation in Spectrochemical Analysis By G. Svehla, Elsevier Scientific Publishing Company, copyright 1979-ISBN is 0-444-41732-X . I just checked on Amazon and there are 4 of them for under $20 and after that it jumps up to $149 I believe. Don't let the title intimidate you, it's written in easy to understand language and thankfully has drawings to make clear the equipment described in the text. Boy it sure opened my eyes to what has already been done and as Dell says "What has been done,can be done" (thanks Dell). But I do agree with you Fred and your point is well taken now that I understand it. There is alot out there that still waits to be discovered.

Randy

[Fred]

Thanks for the info! looks like a great reading.
When you say ion dispersed too fast for those experiments, how fast is that? after all we need dispersion if we want to detect them far away
regards,
Fred.

[J_Player]

When you say ion dispersed too fast for those experiments, how fast is that? after all we need dispersion if we want to detect them far away

Dang! If you stand downwind of ions floating in the air from long-time buried gold, maybe you can detect treasure just like you can detect a bear in the woods by standing downwind!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Dang! If you stand downwind of ions floating in the air from long-time buried gold, maybe you can detect treasure just like you can detect a bear in the woods by standing downwind!

Best wishes,
J_P

...depends of the wind
Fred.

[Esteban]

...depends of the wind
Fred.

"The pessimist complains about the wind, the optimist waits for it to change, the realist adjusts his sails." William George Ward (1812-1882).

Adjust your sails and go for new adventures through the unknown sea...!

[Dell Winders]

Boy it sure opened my eyes to what has already been done and as Dell says "What has been done, can be done" (thanks Dell). But I do agree with you Fred and your point is well taken now that I understand it. There is a lot out there that still waits to be discovered.

Randy

Shhhh! Don't tell Carl. He falls in the "Pretend" to know it all about Long Range Locators in my other category quote. "The door to understanding & knowledge is never open to a closed, or prejudiced mind. He owes me ' and my customers a lot of apology for all the damage he has done, and attempted to do.

And Randy, and some of the other "Pretend" intellectual critical thinkers who patronize geotech forums as gospel, when (IF) you do become open minded about Remote Sensing Discrimination LRL, you will be eating crow for a long time.

Now, With my lowly 6 grade education I am in no position to dispute the superiority of formal intellectual text book education so I am relegated to a common sense approach, based on personal field experience.

Advertising an LRL utilizing IONS as it's method of detection certainly sounds technical. new technology certainly demands high prices, eliminates competition, and makes for great advertising copy.

I know I can't compete on the market with my simple, low cost, homemade devices that essentially do the same thing, and experience the same problems, except Ions aren't incorporated into my detecting method, that I am aware of.

I suspect Damasio, (Mineoro) has been making fools of you, throwing you totally off the common sense track and laughing all along. I can't say I haven't enjoyed
watching it happen.

Naturally, with all the mockery, ridicule, dis-respect, inferences and rants, that long Range locating is bogus, and because I build, and sell such products, I am considered by you to be a fraud, Scam artist, and that I am conning people out of their hard earned money, with your remarks encouraged and supported by the administration, you can understand why I am reluctant to post anything that may be informative.

Within the next couple of weeks I'll try to post some photos of some of the early Electronic, and passive Long Range Locators I have used in the field, from an aircraft, and over water.

So there will be no arguing, mockery, or dis-respect of LRL users, the photo's will be posted on my own Moderated forum.

http://www.treasurehunters.yuku.com

You are welcome to join and participate in serious LRL discussions as long as you leave your egotistical, intellectual superiority, mockery, inferences, and ridicule here where it is accepted.

In return, when I feel like arguing, I'll come over and join you here on Carl's forum.

"WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE" Dell