how the pendulum works?

[Mike(Mont)]

I plan to try an experiment with a Turenne Cage. This is similar to the Faraday cage but instead of an electric current you use magnets. The magnets are positioned at each corner of a cube (He used wood). For vertical waves you point the bar magnets so the north-seeking pole is pointed down, one magnet at each of the eight corners. Then you need to use a vertical selective pendulum--a bar magnet on a string north-seeking pole pointed down. Place whatever you want to check in the center of the cube and dowse it. I see no reason why a map wouldn't work. Also, it might be possible to build a cage to use an L-rod, I don't know. I'll post my results here.

Hills talks about it, said an experienced dowser can override the effect. So what actually happens inside the cage may be mostly (but not all) a psychological effect. So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

[Qiaozhi]

I plan to try an experiment with a Turenne Cage. This is similar to the Faraday cage but instead of an electric current you use magnets. The magnets are positioned at each corner of a cube (He used wood). For vertical waves you point the bar magnets so the north-seeking pole is pointed down, one magnet at each of the eight corners. Then you need to use a vertical selective pendulum--a bar magnet on a string north-seeking pole pointed down. Place whatever you want to check in the center of the cube and dowse it. I see no reason why a map wouldn't work. Also, it might be possible to build a cage to use an L-rod, I don't know. I'll post my results here.

Hills talks about it, said an experienced dowser can override the effect. So what actually happens inside the cage may be mostly (but not all) a psychological effect. So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

[J_Player]

So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

Hi Mike(Mont),
Pay no attention to the naysayers. What do they know about devices worn on the head or magnets?
I for one, think your idea makes a lot of sense.

I have read about experiments along these lines many decades ago that worked for finding things even more important than treasure. Let's take a close look at what has been done in the past. Now, in the photos below, you will see there is apparently no problem to find treasure. And I am certain it will work perfectly just as you described.

But if you have any trouble locating the treasure, then just follow the yellow brick road and keep an eye open for a rainbow... this will mean you are close. But watch out for an ugly lady riding a broom from the west... she can spoil your day! In the worst case, if you don't find treasure, maybe you will find the same thing the tin man recovered so many decades ago...

"What has been done can be done"
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity. Most people do not understand anything about magnets, not even which pole is which. Even people who manufacture and sell magnets have it wrong about half the time. There's a book called The Body Magnetic that explains much about it. If you are planning on experimenting with magnets I strongly suggest you study this or don't mess with magnets at all AND NEVER PUT ANY MAGNET NEAR YOUR HEAD. Even some hearing-aid magnets can be harmful and can adversely affect your dowsing.

[Theseus]

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity.

Wrong polarity? Your comment makes it sound like one polarity makes brain tumors grow and thus infers the opposite polarity would shrink them or destroy them. Do you have a medical ref where you obtained this information?

[J_Player]

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity.

Hi Mike(Mont),
Actually, you did mention some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And you also mentioned a parabolic or funnel shape. Here is what you originally said concerning magnets, transmitters and wearing things:

So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

Nobody is talking about wearing magnets on your head. What you see on the tin man's head is a metal funnel. This is, of course corresponds to the parabolic funnel shaped device you mentioned that could be worn. (I naturally ruled out wearing a rifle barrel on your head, because it just doesn't fit as well as a funnel).

The original funnel worn by the tin man was galvanized steel. The modern version is an aluminum funnel. Neither of these are magnetic, but the older steel version could concentrate vertical magnetic lines of flux that may be suspected to cause magnetic brain tumors in the cerebellum of the tin man. (Take note: In the story of the original tin man, his scarecrow buddy did not have a cerebellum, or any part of a brain. In fact this is what he was searching for). But for a modern LRL treasure hunter, I would suspect you should use the older plated steel funnel on your head unless you are sure you also don't have a cerebellum. The more modern aluminum version should work nicely as a Faraday shield, but will do little to protect you from the dreaded hazards of wrong-polarity magnetic brain tumors.

The magnet is not worn on the body. Actually, in the configuration shown, there is one magnet with the poles set vertically in the pendulum, and several others, including a large vertically polarized rare earth magnet at the base of the VLF transmitting antenna high atop the water tower. The other four rare earth magnets are placed in the four corners of the area where you are searching. Since it is not practical to put a magnetic cage over a large area of land, we can simply drive a tall steel pipe in the ground at each of the four magnets. This will tend to concentrate the magnetic flux in the four corners of the search area to form a 4-pole matrix canopy over the area you are searching, without stopping the magnetically altered VLF signal coming from high atop the water tower.

I think you can see the relative improvement of this blend of modern and antique methods, which leaves you completely free from the risk of wrong-polarity magnetic brain tumors.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

The wrong polarity probably won't start any new tumors, just increase the growth rate of the current ones. I don't need medical opinion to warn people of the dangers. There's lots of info available on cell phone usage. My sister had a brain tumer removed after months of radiation treatment. She wasn't too happy about it.

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are. In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

[Theseus]

In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

I wasn't aware of any published reports showing examples of individuals who could consistently demonstrate dowsing at a significance level better than random chance. Are you aware of any?

[J_Player]

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are.

Hi Mike(Mont),
I guess I have to agree that wearing a galvanized steel funnel on your head may not be the best for brainstorming. When you think about it, the steel funnel will probably shield your brain from the influence of magnetic storms. Who knows? Perhaps magnetic storms influencing the brain is how we find some of our best ideas for LRL detection.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

The wrong polarity probably won't start any new tumors, just increase the growth rate of the current ones. I don't need medical opinion to warn people of the dangers. There's lots of info available on cell phone usage. My sister had a brain tumer removed after months of radiation treatment. She wasn't too happy about it.

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are. In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

Honestly - I cannot decide whether you're being serious or not...

[Theseus]

I'm pretty sure he is very serious.

[Mike(Mont)]

Louis Turenne was a physicist from France. His work on developing dowsing instruments was done in the first half of the 1900's. Besides the Turenne cage and various selective pendulums, he invented the Turenne rule which worked similar to an interferometer. By exciting a sample with a small amount of radioactive material (sunlight or magnetics will work), it created an induction and interference patterns which he read with his pendulum. By measuring where he got the pendulum reaction he could analyze the sample's wave length (relatively speaking). He could detect any element of the known 92 elements at that time and even left room on his rule for five yet-to-be-discovered radioactive elements. He was probably the most knowledgable dowser of his time. Christopher Hills inherited his lifetime work though a friend along with about 150 other works. Much of it had to be translated into English. Hills complied this info, injected his work on consciousness( he was into yoga, big time), and published it in his bible on dowsing "Supersensonics".

I really don't understand why some people get so upset when I post about dowsing. I find it an absolutely fascinating subject. I wish you would read his book and you would have a much better understanding, even if you don't agree with it. On all the dowsing forums I have yet to see one single post about this wonderful book. I guess most people are intimidated by it. It's definitely college-level material. It's said people fear what they don't understand, and dowsing is no exception. Terms like witchcraft and voodo just go to show this (sort of like me and hypnosis). It's not that way at all and Hills book goes a huge way to show this.

[Max]

I'm pretty sure he is very serious.

yes... i think the same...

[Theseus]

I have read at some length, the volume Supersensonics by C Hills, and I would hardly rank it at college level material ---unless of course you are speaking of The College of Snake Oil and Other Flim-flam Alternatives.

[Mike(Mont)]

Like the saying goes, "We are whatever disturbs us." What is it about dowsing that disturbs you? I'm sure you are well aware that Dr. Hills donated a huge portion of his life and income to helping others. He's hardly a snake-oil salesman.

"Actually we have the ability within our imaginations to tune ourselves to the total range of frequencies but we do not use it. Why? Because our preset biological survival tuning (food, shelter, sex, etc.) is feeding us such strong signals that most of us do not want to change the channel. Essentially it means dropping our identities as limited bags of skin called human beings and not paying attention to the physical sensation level vibrations and this is the last thing many of us want to do... "

This is from "Energy Matter & Form" by Allen, Bearne, and Smith