ICONOS Gold Detector

[Max]

but the question is... if not you... WHO THE HELL MADE THIS ?

Sorry I forgot you don't know... and also if know that... you probably forget that now... cause you need the chemical stuff in the pap!

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!

Kind regards,
Max

[Geo]

Andreas where you are, you some advice from friend unfortunate given that the icons you've worked ..................

and geo? you have the iconos

I have the iconos.
Where is your problem????
I am here!!!!!!!!!

[Clondike Clad]

Dell do you,Now DELL DO YOU KNOW

but the question is... if not you... WHO THE HELL MADE THIS ?

Sorry I forgot you don't know... and also if know that... you probably forget that now... cause you need the chemical stuff in the pap!

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!
Just lookie at this

http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reports/vr800/index.dat

Kind regards,
Now Dell you tell me you don't own a glue gun?
I have glue guns and most electronic's people have glue guns
Now you tell me ,you YES YOU don't have a glue gun.
DELL STOP THE LIE.
Max

NOW please stop the lie.

[Dell Winders]

So it's just like when you wrote you don't sell dowsing rods...

That's true. I have never sold any Rods intended for use for Mental Meta-physical Dowsing.

Since Dowsing Rods are usually held parallel with the ground, and the Rods I am using in the photo are angled towared the ground, it is obvious I am not Dowsing with the Rods in the photo. The dual Antenna rods I sell are intended to be used with LRL products. If you wish to use them for mental Dowsing, that is your perrogative, but not reccommended by me.

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!

Kind regards,
Max

That's his twisted accusation. It's not my work. I didn't build it. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

Max, as I said,"

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND."

Your ignorance and dis-honest claims are showing.

I don't use hot glue in the products I build. Never have. Where do you see any? I don't even own a glue gun.

The shame is on you for not being truthful. Get real! Dell

In the LRLs > Reports section of this website, there is a report on the DELL VR-800, and it states "The VR-800 is a so-called long-range locator (LRL) made by Dell Systems of Haines City, FL."

http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reports/vr800/index.dat

I don't know about you, but I can see a lot of hot glue inside this device.

Now ... maybe you actually didn't construct this thing with your own fair hands, and you paid someone else to do the building ... but you did sell this device. In which case, you're just being pedantic.

[Clondike Clad]

Only Dell

That's true. I have never sold any Rods intended for use for Mental Meta-physical Dowsing.

Since Dowsing Rods are usually held parallel with the ground, and the Rods I am using in the photo are angled towared the ground, it is obvious I am not Dowsing with the Rods in the photo. The dual Antenna rods I sell are intended to be used with LRL products. If you wish to use them for mental Dowsing, that is your perrogative, but not reccommended by me.



That's his twisted accusation. It's not my work. I didn't build it. Dell

Dell if I am twisted is that better than a scammer?
As you know and I repeat AS YOU KNOW your LRL works just like the others.
MONEY FOR THE SELLER only.
Why don't you take Carl's 25,000 and show us your stuff works.
Oh who is that man is not you??????
Why are you using him as you?
NOW DON'T LIE

[Kirk Chi]

Geo,
Is your ICONOS working?
I am not having good experience with ICONOS Gold Detector company.
They sent me a defective unit. Then after returning and sending more money, they sent me a fake courier traking number that does not exist. Now, they do not reply to my call or email.
Are you having better experience?

[Kirk Chi]

JP,
Thanks for the info on the Federal Trade Commision.
I will follow up.

[Geo]

Geo,
Is your ICONOS working?
I am not having good experience with ICONOS Gold Detector company.
They sent me a defective unit. Then after returning and sending more money, they sent me a fake courier traking number that does not exist. Now, they do not reply to my call or email.
Are you having better experience?

Hello.
I know other 3 persons that bought the Iconos. My detector is the first model with sensitivity check on the upper side. My Iconos is working OK. As i know one iconos has detected 4 -5 objectives. One other .... nothing and the third iconos working but as the owner said me he need long time to balance and to start to work.
But remember that Iconos can detect only old burried gold (as iconos says) but not fresh.
I want to believe that the "Iconos" company will send you a good detector
Regards

[Hardi]

Amazing Detector !!!!?
Yet, I could not understand how they could cheat people like this? ... LRL manufactures...
LRL equal =>
# - 10 years waiting just to see if the stuff realy detects or not?
... Who can bury a peace of gold and wait for 10 years or more. It is ossible to say 10 years of being the gold underground is not
enough for that kind (e.g. Iconos, Minero,. etc..) it is open for this kind of physics... at that time there will be not manafacture to return
you the money.
# - LRLs not let you be frustrated...! They beep as you like, in any direction, for any thing located any where !!!! ..... and it is open to
justify the situation. For example, you can complain in any direction that there must be a peace of gold starting from 1m to 12 Km (as
Minero stated) Who knows? Who can say not? If say not.....come and dig it ?
OK . I will dig but just tell me how much..... 1m or 2m or 100s of meters?. Nobody can dig?
So, LRLs realy works untill otherwise proved? It is open for justification....It works but need special experiences, special training an so
on and so forth.
It is exactly like if I say "THE PLACE WHERE PARKED MY BYCYCLE IS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH"
Can anybody prove that is not? If say not please come and measure it? Who can measure it? may be someone like those who
convised peaple to buy there stuff? may be. So, it is fact untill otherwise proved !
# - LRLs costs not too make.....Less than 100 $, So why several thousands for buying... If they sell it for 200$, nobody will buy it!
Be aware with LRLs ....does not detect......expencive...... not scientfically proved.... may be dowsing in an other way...frau d education
... and .... and it also open !!!!

[Max]

Just lookie at this
http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...r800/index.dat

Hi,
thanks... I remember that pictures very well... but I made just rethoric question about the picture you posted, cause Dell say now he don't use hot melt glue... does not own a glue pistol etc... and sure will never admit he actually sold that unit we see at that link of above... Carl posted the famous pictures there.

I remember that old story and so many times he wrote he had nothing to do with that unit!

Kind regards,
Max

[Clondike Clad]

The real Dell

Max, as I said,"

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND."

Your ignorance and dis-honest claims are showing.

I don't use hot glue in the products I build. Never have. Where do you see any? I don't even own a glue gun.

The shame is on you for not being truthful. Get real! Dell

Why are you faking your mug shot...whY WHY.....
Dell you talk like the snake oil men of old.
Today we call them scammers

[J_Player]

Dell uses hot melt glue?

Perhaps it is time to tell the real story of the Dell Systems VR-800 Omnitron...

The real story of the VR-800 began to surface in the Geotech forum a couple of years back. After much evasiveness, Dell Winders finally admitted that he sold the vernell Electronics VR-800 LRLs under his own Dell Systems Omnitron label without telling his customers that it was one of the units he knew did not work. This is a long read, but the details can be found here:

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?p=56194#post56194

If you read that thread carefully, the history of the VR-800 will become apparent. Here is the summary of what appears to have happened in the early days of LRLs before Dell Winders began selling the Dell Systems VR-800:

Vernell Rose was a TV repairman trained at the Motorola school to repair televisions. When people were becoming interested in long range metal detectors, Vernon Rose made a simple signal generator with a 555 timer and frequency adjustment pots as seen in the photos of the VR-800. There was no power amplifier. A handheld receiver utilizing a coil was carried out in front of where the transmitter was set up with the intent to find a change in received signal when near a treasure. The VR-800 was shown to be a non-working device by Carl's report here: http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...r800/index.dat

But wait... Vernell Rose made this circuit long before Carl tested the Dell Systems VR-800, as Dell pointed out. Before the name VR-800 was attached to this circuit, Dell Winders decided to use Vernell's LRL to attempt to win the Randi prize at a Florida beach by finding coins hidden in the sand. When the test was over, he failed miserably, demonstrating the Vernell circuit did not work to locate coins for him in the 1987 Randi test. Dell then admitted in this forum that the Vernell Rose "forward gauss" instruments were not practical to use after the time of the Randi test: "I purchased 2 of the Vernell, Forward Gauss instruments with electronic receivers and used them successfully from a boat, aircraft, and on land until operating conditions deteriorated affecting the reliability of the instrument making it impractical for my use in 1988".

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?p=54041

Sometime after the failed Randi test, Dell Winders accepted a shipment of Vernell's VR-800 locators branded as the Dell Systems (tm) Omnitron VR-800, and sold them to his customers. This is why we see Carl's VR-800 with the Dell Systems (tm) Omnitorn label.

The question arises: Why would Dell Winders sell thousands of dollars of worthless LRLs that he knew did not work to unsuspecting customers? Why not let Vernell do the dirty work of scamming the public? Dell gave an answer that could explain this: "Later, I assume to please me, and without my knowledge, Vernon had a batch of face plates printed with the "Omnitron", and "Dell" name on them. At least a dozen other manufacturers were calling their product an "Omnitron" or "Omini" some thing by that time, and one had applied for a copyright patent and received it against all my protest. So, it didn't really matter if Vernon Rose added the "Omnitron" name to his products for whatever reason, and I didn't have the heart to ask him not to use the face plates after he had already gone to the expense of having them made".

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?p=56337

What the hail does this mean? Dell sold thousands of dollars of worthless LRLS because he didn't have the heart to make Vernon Rose throw out the face plates with his name on them? He would rather have innocent customers pay for non-working LRLs instead of booting Vernell out of his shop? Is this getting a little hard to believe?

So, according to Dell, he felt sorry for Vernon Rose for spending money to make up a batch of Dell Systems nameplates without his knowledge, and he felt obligated to sell Dell Systems Omnitrons to unsuspecting customers, so Vernon Rose would not be out the cost of making new Vernell Electronics nameplates? Does this sound reasonable to you? Shouldn't Dell be insulted and mad at Vernon for trying to peddle off non-working crap that cost him the Randi prize?

Just suppose... the reason Dell sold the Dell Systems Omnitron VR-800 was because he could see the profits that could be made by selling junk that cost $50 to produce. Is this the reason he didn't throw Vernell Rose out, and decided to sell his crap with the Dell Omnitron label?

Nobody will know the answer to that question except Dell Winders. But one thing for sure, Vernon Rose put the hot melt glue on the perf-board you see in the pictures. Not Dell Winders.

There is no doubt a lot more to this story than what I told. Dell has carefully concealed most of his dealings with Vernell Electronics. If anyone knows more about the truth of the Dell Systems Omnitron VR-800, feel free to jump in and add your bit.

[Dell Winders]

JPLAYER, YOU twist & LIE, Twist & LIE, Twist & LIE! WHY?

Add to that, the fact is the VR-800, was not
even thought of at the time, and was never used to take the Randi test. That was a ficticious story and photo concocted by Randi & Carl, for the same slanderous purpose you are pursuing now. Create enough smoke, and people will believe there is a fire.

I hope viewers here are intelligent enough to consider the source of the smoke. Dell

[putrechigi]

thanks

Hello.
I know other 3 persons that bought the Iconos. My detector is the first model with sensitivity check on the upper side. My Iconos is working OK. As i know one iconos has detected 4 -5 objectives. One other .... nothing and the third iconos working but as the owner said me he need long time to balance and to start to work.
But remember that Iconos can detect only old burried gold (as iconos says) but not fresh.
I want to believe that the "Iconos" company will send you a good detector
Regards

don't heat you it was alone to give a help to kirk chi and he has gotten him thanks