Wallet Mining and Scamming

[Clondike Clad]

Who is hurting the LRL fourm and why.
I know I don't like scammers and wallet miners.
It is stealing to me.
Dell you can talk about me as well.

[Dell Winders]

Who is hurting the LRL fourm and why.
I know I don't like scammers and wallet miners.
It is stealing to me.
Dell you can talk about me as well.

I don't care for scammers and deception either. I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. The libelious comments made here about me are untrue, malicious, with purposeful intention to defame my name and slander my character and honest reputation.

Clondike, I will talk (reply) to you on this forum as time permits, or if you call me, but why in the world should I talk ABOUT you, or why would you even invite me to do so? Dell

[Clondike Clad]

Prove us wrong

I don't care for scammers and deception either. I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. The libelious comments made here about me are untrue, malicious, with purposeful intention to defame my name and slander my character and honest reputation.

Clondike, I will talk (reply) to you on this forum as time permits, or if you call me, but why in the world should I talk ABOUT you, or why would you even invite me to do so? Dell

Tell us Dell, what is exactly the truth?
1. Did Vernon Rose build his electronic LRLs before your Randi test like you said or not?
2. If you did not use anything made by Vernon Rose to perform the Randi test, exactly what instruments did you use, Dell?
3. Did you sell thousands of dollars worth of VR-800 LRLs made by Vernell Electronics with your Dell Systems (tm) label or not?
4. What exactly were your hidden dealings with Vernon Rose and Vernell Electronics? What is the real reason you had Dell System labels on those Vernell LRLs you sold? Why did you sell them with your label, then refuse to take responsiblilty for the contents inside the box?
5. What proof do you have that would stand up in a court of law to prove Randi lied about you failing his test?
6. Why don't you go back and accept Randi's continued offer to you to claim his $1million? With today's technology, you could have a crowd of witnesses with inexpensive video cameras rolling to prove what really happens in a double blind test.

It look to me you fit the scammers and you told many a large LIE and people know about your lies.
So a snake oil man is a snake oil man in any book.
All i like to see if you would answer the questions.

Dell will you answer the questions.

[Theseus]

I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. Dell

Last time I checked, you were still trying to sell LRL implements, the advertising of which would imply that they don't involve the practice of dowsing and that the added capsules, bogus electronics and other lights and switches would somehow enhance the operation of the instrument.

That being the case, then any accusations made here that you are a scammer and a wallet-miner, are perfectly legitimate.

[Mike(Mont)]

Someone here does not understand the basics. LRL's are body response instruments. You don't have to know how to dowse, but you do have to be able to feel the response. As Christopher Hills says, ultimately your consciousness has to make sense of the senses. Your consciousness discriminates the info (via wave length) your senses detect. There are no red, blue, green sensors in your eyes or brain. There are no sensors in your ears that detect a "C" note. No one knows if the color red looks the same to them as to other people, but everyone knows red is different than blue.

When I say some people do not understand, I mean they are expecting the LRL to do everything. Sorry, but that's not the case. I compare learning to use an LRL to learning to play golf. Yes, it is that difficult. No LRL manufacturer wants you to know this. I know someone says you can learn in twenty minutes and this is not true. It sometimes takes me twenty minutes just to get warmed up, and if I haven't practiced for a few weeks it could be several days to get it back. Even the electronic receivers require practice. As

I've said before, meditation of some sort is essential. Most people cannot meditate, even the saints have reported they only get it right now and then. Ther are devices you can buy to train you to meditate. Biofeedback, GSR, brainwave monitors, heart rate variability(HRV), etc. but even these take weeks or months to learn well enough to be useful in locating. Sure, some people are naturals, people that live in the country are much more tuned to nature and themself. Most people are not, but they can learn. That's why the hillbilly types can learn easier than the city slickers, but really it's those who can access their right brain and shut off the left, logical side. They don't question it.

[Theseus]

Someone here does not understand the basics. LRL's are body response instruments.

That someone is you.

The true basics are: All LRLs, whether they be a simple bent wire or a fancy swivel handle coupled with thousands of dollars of do-nothing electronic components, ALL operate as a result of the operator's ideomotor response.

If you've been brainwashed into thinking otherwise, I'm sorry. (You are not the first, nor will you be the last).

Perhaps if you meditated some on the physics involved with all LRLs, you would come to understand that it is all just dowsing.

Ergo, dowsing is required in the operation of all LRLs.

Regards,

[Dell Winders]

Ergo, dowsing is required in the operation of all LRLs.

Ergo, you and Sam, are just plain stupid about your knowledge of Dowsing. Dell

[Theseus]

Ergo, you and Sam, are just plain stupid about your knowledge of Dowsing. Dell

My knowledge of dowsing is in complete agreement with those who actually understand the concept, and who are not involved in the business of wallet-mining by selling worthless high-priced do-nothing LRLs.

You, on the other hand, must maintain a stance contrary to what is really happening, in order to support your scam wallet-mining business.

When faced with the truth, or tough questions, you always resort to name-calling. How childish. But it does point out your obvious guilt.

I don't see anyone here posting under the name Sam. Do you live in a state of constant confusion and denial, and are you imagining people by various names?

[Mike(Mont)]

You can lead a mule to water but you can't make him drink.

[Mike(Mont)]

I'll repeat this because it is worth it. Meditation is essential to higher (expanded) consciousness. When I say it takes me twenty minutes to get warmed up sometimes, hopefully you get a clue to what I mean. It may take that long before I get into the meditative state. Sometimes it's easier to get there, sometimes I can't get there. You can't get there by thinking logically. Sometimes a distraction can help take your mind off what is disturbing you, but sometimes it might make it worse. A good exercise routine can help you achieve the meditative state.

If I were to do it all over, I would buy some type of biofedback equipment and learn how to use it before I ever touched an L-rod. Sure I read this but always thought I knew better. That's a sickness on my part. There are some GSR units made for this (well under $100) or more expensive systems like Healing Rhythms you hook up to your computer. The heart breath is good for your internal organs, too. Most people do not breathe properly. I totally agree LRL's are a waste of time if you cannot meditate, and most people cannot. Many learn without realizing it after daily LRL practice for a few weeks, but there is a better way.

[Qiaozhi]

You can lead a mule to water but you can't make him drink.

I think you've just proved that as a fact.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK."

[Qiaozhi]

When I say some people do not understand, I mean they are expecting the LRL to do everything. Sorry, but that's not the case.

These are the most true words you have said so far, since LRLs cannot do everything, except wallet mining and detecting gravity.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK."

[Mike(Mont)]

You just don't get it, even when it's handed to you on a silver platter.

[Mike(Mont)]

When people talk about someone with only half a brain, they mean it literally. God gave most of us two sides to our brain. To squander your potential is considered a sin.

[Mike(Mont)]

Marcel Vogel did work with liquid crystals for IBM. He said your body is liquid crystals (mainly the blood). Think crystal vibrations. He was able to see a flash of blue light. He did work with sound waves and crystals. I can't recall the details, but you might want to read up on it. Something real freaky has to do with his experiments on wine. Reminds me of the wedding at Cana.

http://www.vogelcrystals.net/legacy_of_marcel_vogel.htm