Sultans of LRL

[Qiaozhi]

It's hard to argue with with absurd logic. For the record, I don't use any 555 timer, stripboard, or hot glue in any of the LRL I build. Why do you present yourself as a liar to the viewers here? Dell

OK - here we go ... around the loop (no pun intended) once again:
What do you call this then?

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK.

[Fred]

Fred, your rationale doesn't make much sense. Why should I go all the way to Italy and spend extra money to search for unknown Treasure, devote time and cost to learn unfamiliar territory, and concern myself with legally taking Treasure out of a foriegn country, when Treasure to search for is historically buried all around me in Florida, and just as much fun without the hassals, or obligation.

What's stopping you from learning to use the Rods and accepting the offer, or taking Carl's so called scientific testing? Dell

Really from what you said before i could not imagine you were so full of treasures.
The legall stuff is not an issue as it would be under Manolo´s "supervision" and you would only "have to" bring back €€€ or $$$ .

You also forgot my other question , wich answer is probably the knot of the problem.

Fred.

[Fred]

OK - here we go ... around the loop (no pun intended) once again:
What do you call this then?

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK.

Qiaozhi ,
They guy who build this was probably very poor,he could not afford some screws to fix the board...
I guess he couldn´t find a treasure with it.
Regards,
Fred

[Dell Winders]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dell Winders
For the record, I don't use any 555 timer, stripboard, or hot glue in any of the LRL I build... Dell

Ummm... Who builds the Dell Systems Omnitron Pro-4 and X-Scan?

Best

On the Pro-4, I have the circuit boards printed, purchase the parts and enclosures and I assemble them.

The X-Scan, is assembled by me from a variety of purchased, and fitted componnents.

What's your point?

Originally Posted by Dell Winders
It's hard to argue with with absurd logic. For the record, I don't use any 555 timer, stripboard, or hot glue in any of the LRL I build. Why do you present yourself as a liar to the viewers here? Dell
OK - here we go ... around the loop (no pun intended) once again:
What do you call this then?

Qiaozhi's Ignorance? Qiaozhi's Stupidity? Qiaozhi's Lie?
Take your choice.

Dell

[Dell Winders]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Fred, your rationale doesn't make much sense. Why should I go all the way to Italy and spend extra money to search for unknown Treasure, devote time and cost to learn unfamiliar territory, and concern myself with legally taking Treasure out of a foriegn country, when Treasure to search for is historically buried all around me in Florida, and just as much fun without the hassals, or obligation.

What's stopping you from learning to use the Rods and accepting the offer, or taking Carl's so called scientific testing? Dell

Really from what you said before i could not imagine you were so full of treasures.
The legall stuff is not an issue as it would be under Manolo´s "supervision" and you would only "have to" bring back €€€ or $$$ .

You also forgot my other question , wich answer is probably the knot of the problem.

Fred.

Fred, for a person who claims he can't coordinate the use of his mind with a pair of Rod(s), you surly think you are capable of thinking for some else. I'm sure glad you aren't my advisor.

Tell us about the last time you entered the U.S as an American citizen and smuggled more than $12,000 past U.S. customs?

Bear in mind, I don't Treasure hunt for dollars. My interest is in Treasure itself. The more ancient, the better. There are laws prohibiting the removal and transfer of cultural treasure from country, to another.

Dell ,why nobody can prove that L rods works? I can´t find any evidence that they really works.
Fred.

Fred, to answer your question, I have no idea why you don't know anyone that can prove to you that L Rods can work to serve as an LRL metering tool? If you want evidence you will accept, then you will have to learn how to use the Rod(s) and experience them working for yourself.

Of course, You will never learn by complaining about what other people do. Dell

[J_Player]

On the Pro-4, I have the circuit boards printed, purchase the parts and enclosures and I assemble them.

Ok Dell,
Your web page says there is a state of the art computer programmed microcontroller circuit in the Dell Systems Pro-4. Can you show us where it is in the photo below, and what model number so we can look on the manufacturer's data sheet to see how stable the frequencies are?

Specifically, I am interested to know what computer chip is used, and what microcontroller chip.

P.S. Carl found an unusual component when he removed the epoxy from a pro-4.

[Dell Winders]

P.S. Carl found an unusual component when he removed the epoxy from a pro-4.

There you go again, lieing to the viewers. Doesn't the venom ever stop spewing from your mouth?

You know more about electronic componnents than I will ever care to know, so I'm sure you can tell the difference between a microcontroller and a 555 timer? The circuit is a small Frequency generator with 8 programmed frequencies.

Under the epoxy is a a few winds of 22 gauge copper wire, and a magnet. Certainly, Not anything that looks like what you have pictured. So again, you lie. Is that what you are trying to prove, that you are a liar?

Dell

[J_Player]

I'm sure you can tell the difference between a microcontroller and a 555 timer?

No Dell,
I can't tell the difference from looking at that picture. I doubt anyone in this forum can tell whether the Pro-4 photograph shows a 555 timer or a microcontroller. I don't see anything that looks like a microcontroller, and the IC in the photo looks like some 555 timers I have seen. In fact, this is why I asked.

What is the chip number for the microcontroller that you claim is in the Pro-4? Also what is the chip number for the computer, or is it the same microcontroller that looks like a 555 timer?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Tim Williams]

It's a 16f628 and I wrote the code and designed the board. The frequencies are what Dell wanted.

Tim

[J_Player]

Thank you Tim,

It is nice to see we have some people who don't mind telling the truth instead of concealing it. From what I can see, the frequency stability of any transmitted frequency will depend on the stability of the clock. Am I correct?

If this is the case, then the prime importance is to connect a stable clock that will not drift with changes in temperature or battery charge. The good part is that once a stable clock is established, the range of frequencies produced will not drift as long as the clock frequency does not drift.

So the real answer to my question is the Pro-4 uses a 16f628 pic with flash memory, not a 555 timer. Sounds like a nice arrangement if the clock is calibrated and stable.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

It is nice to see we have some people who don't mind telling the truth instead of concealing it.

There you go with your lieing inferences. I have been truthful about everything I've posted.

The number on what you graphically suggested was 555 timer after I posted I didn't use a 555 timer is pic 16f628A

Do you have any more lies to make up about me tonight, or are you satisfied with your BS for the day? Dell

[J_Player]

There you go with your lieing inferences. I have been truthful about everything I've posted.

Oh Dell, I asked a direct question:

"What is the chip number for the microcontroller that you claim is in the Pro-4"?
You also see me asking about the identity of this part in the graphic.

Is asking a question now considered to be the same as telling a lie?

Rather than to answer the question, you chose to call me and everyone else a liar when they ask questions that you don't want the answers known. It appears you have been concealing the truth for a long time. Isn't this the same technique you used to try to conceal that Vernon Rose coined the term "forward gauss"? Didn't you in fact interject false information to lead the readers away from the fact that it was Vernon Rose?

Weren't you trying to conceal the true identity of the IC used in your Pro-4? Didn't you fail to admit it is a 16f628 until after Tim told us the truth about it?
Qiestion: "is this a pic that Dell claims is a microcontroller"?
Answer by Tim Williams: Yes - 16f628
Answer by Dell: Liar!
Question: "Did Dell write the hex code"?
Answer by Tim Williams: I wrote the code
Answer by Dell: Liar!
Question: Could it be a 555?
Answer by Tim Williams: It is a 16f628
Answer by Dell: Liar!

It appears to me that you are the one who is trying to brand people liars if they ask questions you do not want to answer.
Is it just me who feels this way? Or are there other readers who think this is happening too?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

I agree with JP: Dell is attacking everyone making simples questions:

Fred, for a person who claims he can't coordinate the use of his mind with a pair of Rod(s), you surly think you are capable of thinking for some else. I'm sure glad you aren't my advisor.

I have never said i could or not use Lrods.I was only making a (logical) observation about a hypotetical trip to Itlay.

Tell us about the last time you entered the U.S as an American citizen and smuggled more than $12,000 past U.S. customs?

Is that a problem?? cant you just got to the bank and deposit the money on your account ???

Bear in mind, I don't Treasure hunt for dollars. My interest is in Treasure itself. The more ancient, the better.

Then Itlay is probably one on the best places to search...

Fred, to answer your question, I have no idea why you don't know anyone that can prove to you that L Rods can work to serve as an LRL metering tool?

I don´t know either...But that doesn´t answer my question.

If you want evidence you will accept, then you will have to learn how to use the Rod(s) and experience them working for yourself.

But again, why is it impossible to prove that it works?

Of course, You will never learn by complaining about what other people do. Dell

Complaining???? moi ???

Fred.

[Esteban]

You can acquire some skill if you trains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt-1OrUlBSs

[Esteban]

Dell, takes calmly everything, laugh at all and at you itself, for your health!