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  • #16
    Saxon-X1

    Originally posted by Morgan View Post
    I agree,it will be 1E Kg
    The saxon-x1 detector is much better than some crap here in the forum.
    Tests with buried metals :

    2Euro = 45 cm
    1Kg coins = 90 cm

    Max. sens. with big metal dor = 4,50 m

    Discrimination not perfect but 90% of iron rejection.

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    • #17
      ...

      Originally posted by Morgan View Post
      I agree,it will be 1E Kg
      1 Euro Kg,i sell to you this box of my 08MI,and you can put some bananas inside,and go to Chiquita Banana Republik

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
        The saxon-x1 detector is much better than some crap here in the forum.
        Tests with buried metals :

        2Euro = 45 cm
        1Kg coins = 90 cm

        Max. sens. with big metal dor = 4,50 m

        Discrimination not perfect but 90% of iron rejection.
        Hi,
        the 2eur at 45cm (on air) is very good, few can really do in usable conditions also on soil. The problem is that is one of the most expensive MDs around... and I don't like bad iron disc... even 90% is not good for me...I have some trashy but interesting places!

        I say that cause in a real field I seach 30-40% of times there are never just iron junks... but also steel today is frequent and if MD detects iron 10% times... will detect steel very easy , that's no good to me cause I will waste lot of time in that trashy places.
        There I will use something less detection but perfect iron disc and good enough, though partial steel disc.

        Kind regards,
        Max

        "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
        But we dont need a reason
        "

        someone said...

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        • #19
          Hi.
          Originally posted by Max View Post
          yes... but then ? Will you find the STUFF ?
          Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices. now we are in half-way.
          Originally posted by Olympios
          Lol, like you say, my equipment will go at least 1 meter. Do LRLs go that far?
          yes, yes and yes, it depends on what kind.
          as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
          I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).
          but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.
          honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.

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          • #20
            Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell
            "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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            • #21
              ...saxon-x1

              Originally posted by Max View Post
              Hi,
              the 2eur at 45cm (on air) is very good, few can really do in usable conditions also on soil. The problem is that is one of the most expensive MDs around... and I don't like bad iron disc... even 90% is not good for me...I have some trashy but interesting places!

              I say that cause in a real field I seach 30-40% of times there are never just iron junks... but also steel today is frequent and if MD detects iron 10% times... will detect steel very easy , that's no good to me cause I will waste lot of time in that trashy places.
              There I will use something less detection but perfect iron disc and good enough, though partial steel disc.

              Kind regards,
              Max
              This is underground,not air tests...

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              • #22
                Dowsing rods...

                Originally posted by michael View Post
                Hi.
                Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices. now we are in half-way.
                yes, yes and yes, it depends on what kind.
                as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
                I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).
                but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.
                honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.
                Hi Michael

                The fact that you saw some results with MDF dowsing rods,it means only the person who use this rods is very good in this activity,this not work with everybody. I also try one MDF and find 3 metal targets and 97 empty holes,not work with me

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                • #23
                  LRL Dowsing rods

                  Originally posted by michael View Post
                  Hi.
                  Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices. now we are in half-way.
                  yes, yes and yes, it depends on what kind.
                  as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
                  I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).
                  but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.
                  honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.
                  If you are interested in this electronic dowsing rods,i can give to you some interesting schematics,easy to build...

                  regards

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                  • #24
                    Hi
                    Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                    Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell
                    Dear Dell. I didn't get time to test DDL on my latest location. I had decision to do it, but as there we every time carry many of stuffs and many things are messy, my mind highly busy for management the operation on place(a hard work) by this time couldn't test DDL. If get an opportunity will check it at next time. I should mention at that place are some targets. (3) 2 are small and possibly at 4-5 meters depth and 10 meters far from huge target(at 8-10 meters)
                    we couldn't pinpoint small targets so that huge target field interfered and didn't let to get point from all directions.
                    Originally posted by Morgan
                    The fact that you saw some results with MDF dowsing rods,it means only the person who use this rods is very good in this activity,this not work with everybody. I also try one MDF and find 3 metal targets and 97 empty holes,not work with me
                    yes, working with these L-rods and MDFs is not a work of every user. some people use them incredibly.
                    I myself made some of L-rods the result for me was the same. one of their limitation is that react to any anomaly underground; water, cavities and so on. then needs highly experienced operator be able to recognize(so-so) and pick best signals to focus on them. for me personally never dare to dig without conventional detector confirmation.
                    If you are interested in this electronic dowsing rods,i can give to you some interesting schematics,easy to build...
                    Morgan, your pleasure to give schematics of rods is admirable, but I have most of them and made many of them.
                    if you want really do a favor give the last golden points from your PD to fulfill it. this is better and more favor as I dedicated much time for that and now left it without any result. the points you deprived us. I can't start another new work that possibly you leave in half way with a half-work.

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                    • #25
                      Pistoldetector

                      Originally posted by michael View Post
                      Hi

                      Dear Dell. I didn't get time to test DDL on my latest location. I had decision to do it, but as there we every time carry many of stuffs and many things are messy, my mind highly busy for management the operation on place(a hard work) by this time couldn't test DDL. If get an opportunity will check it at next time. I should mention at that place are some targets. (3) 2 are small and possibly at 4-5 meters depth and 10 meters far from huge target(at 8-10 meters)
                      we couldn't pinpoint small targets so that huge target field interfered and didn't let to get point from all directions.

                      yes, working with these L-rods and MDFs is not a work of every user. some people use them incredibly.
                      I myself made some of L-rods the result for me was the same. one of their limitation is that react to any anomaly underground; water, cavities and so on. then needs highly experienced operator be able to recognize(so-so) and pick best signals to focus on them. for me personally never dare to dig without conventional detector confirmation.

                      Morgan, your pleasure to give schematics of rods is admirable, but I have most of them and made many of them.
                      if you want really do a favor give the last golden points from your PD to fulfill it. this is better and more favor as I dedicated much time for that and now left it without any result. the points you deprived us. I can't start another new work that possibly you leave in half way with a half-work.
                      Hi Michael

                      How can i teach you about my working PD ? I put it to work,thats true,and many people from this forum ask me technical questions,im not EE,i dont know what to answer.
                      There is no secrets,i spent many days calibrating OMEGA and FERRITE,and test over old targets in my FIELD TEST until get results.
                      If someone here think i have some secrets,i can open Device and put public photos,but dont ask me HOW IT WORKS,I DONT KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.

                      REGARDS

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                        This is underground,not air tests...
                        Hi,
                        you're now ridiculous...

                        as always... just fake claims from you!

                        45cm for a 2eur coin underground ? Are you under drugs ?

                        About half a meter ??? Did you use LSD ???

                        Saxon X-1 is a good MD with a large coil (30cm DD)....but I cannot belive 45cm for a 2eur with it... is pure science fiction now...

                        Or your soil there is made of smoke and fog ?

                        I can detect one at more than half a meter on air with my top PI (8'' coil)... not VLFs... so about at 20'' from coil bottom, BUT ON AIR!

                        At http://www.staffsmetaldetectors.co.uk/5_pence.htm you'll see a test in which X-1 is reported capable of just 5'' on 5 pence coin, so just 7.5cm!?

                        It's not really an accurate test and I know it does better, but you see it's considered at about half of ML Explorer SE (10'' range) performance ?

                        I belive X-1 could find the 2eur at no more than 32-33cm underground, but in easy ground, few mineralization. In hard mineralization it'll simply sucks.

                        C'mon...let's make some trip with Hung... don't waste people time here... no need of other fairy tales and jokes.

                        Kind regards,
                        Max

                        "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                        But we dont need a reason
                        "

                        someone said...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                          Hi Michael
                          How can i teach you about my working PD ? I put it to work,thats true,and many people from this forum ask me technical questions,im not EE,i dont know what to answer.
                          There is no secrets,i spent many days calibrating OMEGA and FERRITE,and test over old targets in my FIELD TEST until get results.
                          If someone here think i have some secrets,i can open Device and put public photos,but dont ask me HOW IT WORKS,I DONT KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.
                          REGARDS
                          Hi, Morgan unfair talking. it's obvious you didn't tell some things and others testify this.
                          e.g. finally we didn't know exact ferrite and your latest TX-RX formula, we remained confused and you left us.
                          you are not EE and me too, but could explain well the end of your work.
                          what would you lose? concession of PD produce?
                          simply turn back to RS-forum and see all members requests there asked you as well as me.
                          what plenty of diagrams people like J-player,Geo or Andreas drew and asked your opinion. you only disregarded, maybe reason was your tiredness but reasonable was to finish what started,....
                          I and also others still waiting for things you chose silence about.

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                          • #28
                            SNAKE OIL AGAIN

                            Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                            Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell
                            Up to your tricks again I see.
                            You know the the bent wires DON'T WORK

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                            • #29
                              Sorry to disappoint you, but if I am to believe the feedback I have received, the DDL works exactly as advertised for my customers.

                              The interest in my question is how well Michael's unit is holding up to abuse under his field conditions?

                              Sometimes, if it is dropped on a hard surface the epoxy holding the modules can break.

                              I am always open to honest feedback to help improve my products. Customer satisfaction is important.

                              Whether or not I have been truthful, and whether the DDL works as I claim, is up to Michael's, honest opinion and judgment, not yours, unless you own one?

                              Nor, is Michael, or any one, obligated to reply to my question. Dell
                              "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                                Sometimes, if it is dropped on a hard surface the epoxy holding the modules can break.
                                Hi,
                                So you don“t use melting glue any more??
                                Fred.

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