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  • #91
    Originally posted by Fred View Post
    Hi Max,
    Absolutely, but we know so little physical laws!! And when we know them it is often imperfectly.
    Regards,
    Fred.
    Sure but...
    Do you really belive in Morgan's last story of the 7th hidden board ?

    Is more probable he wanna really change sex than that story is truth ! That's what I think.

    Just fake informations from him... and other LRL jokers.

    Kind regards,
    Max

    "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
    But we dont need a reason
    "

    someone said...

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Fred View Post
      Hi Max,
      Absolutely, but we know so little physical laws!! And when we know them it is often imperfectly.
      Regards,
      Fred.
      Yes, if you respect very much and scare these laws you can't find the strange "behavior" of good conductive metal buried from long time.

      Regards

      Esteban

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Max View Post
        Hi Esteban,
        sorry... but... as always a group there diggina an hole is not a proof the LRL really work...

        you know!

        Kind regards,
        Max
        Diggin an hole and detecting with a pistol! This just I know: if you're in the group and see and comprobe and found the target, so is a proof only for you! Imagine this situation: you're the person (like me) who comprobe the possibility and high efficiency (sometimes) of these detectors... you'll defend your position!

        Regards

        Esteban

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Esteban View Post
          Yes, if you respect very much and scare these laws you can't find the strange "behavior" of good conductive metal buried from long time.

          Regards

          Esteban
          Here we are.

          Suppose that 7th board make any difference and allow LRL detection...(hard to belive, or impossible to me... but lets assume it works really)

          So, what's that magic board that make the useless PD we already know a powerful WORKING LRL ?

          Not for use it as a barrique... I mean!

          Kind regards,
          Max

          "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
          But we dont need a reason
          "

          someone said...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Esteban View Post
            Diggin an hole and detecting with a pistol! This just I know: if you're in the group and see and comprobe and found the target, so is a proof only for you! Imagine this situation: you're the person (like me) who comprobe the possibility and high efficiency (sometimes) of these detectors... you'll defend your position!

            Regards

            Esteban
            I would defend my discovery using patents... why you (LRL people) haven't patents there ?

            There's nothing to patent, I must conclude.

            Kind regards,
            Max

            "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
            But we dont need a reason
            "

            someone said...

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Max View Post
              I would defend my discovery using patents... why you (LRL people) haven't patents there ?

              There's nothing to patent, I must conclude.

              Kind regards,
              Max
              Yes, there are patents but not in public domain as USA or Europe...

              Regards

              Esteban

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Max View Post
                Sure but...
                Do you really belive in Morgan's last story of the 7th hidden board ?
                Of course not, he just made this picture to tease you, and you falled in...
                Looks like a PLL with 145151 to me .
                Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                Yes, there are patents but not in public domain as USA or Europe...
                You cannot patent a thing that is not working reliably and based on unknown principles....

                Regards,
                Fred.

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                • #98
                  Bombastic!

                  Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
                  The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
                  "To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
                  Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
                  The name they give to this MD is :
                  Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
                  and is presented as a military detector.

                  Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
                  And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
                  This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

                  regards,
                  Fred.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Fred View Post
                    Of course not, he just made this picture to tease you, and you falled in...
                    Looks like a PLL with 145151 to me .

                    You cannot patent a thing that is not working reliably and based on unknown principles....

                    Regards,
                    Fred.
                    Yes, some are pistol with search coil based on electromagnetism principle.

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                    • Originally posted by Fred View Post
                      Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
                      The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
                      "To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
                      Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
                      The name they give to this MD is :
                      Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
                      and is presented as a military detector.

                      Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
                      And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
                      This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

                      regards,
                      Fred.
                      I read that some UHF detectors tend to detect all objects placed by the man on the soil, include ceramic. Those are affected by wet and causes false signals...

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                      • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                        I read that some UHF detectors tend to detect all objects placed by the man on the soil, include ceramic. Those are affected by wet and causes false signals...
                        So, just like PD, righ ?
                        Regards,
                        Fred.

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                        • In general (and general secret) ANY very sensitive device, but very stable, do the job, all systems you want WORK (for conductive metal buried for X years, maybe since 3 years but no at high depth) (for these 3 years).

                          Regards

                          Esteban

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                          • Originally posted by Fred View Post
                            So, just like PD, righ ?
                            Regards,
                            Fred.
                            Deppend, no all detect in false. Some system (open base) I found demonstrates (for me, off course) how "infernal field" is around a simple rifle cartridge (old).


                            Regards

                            Esteban

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                            • Originally posted by Fred View Post
                              Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
                              The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
                              "To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
                              Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
                              The name they give to this MD is :
                              Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
                              and is presented as a military detector.

                              Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
                              And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
                              This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

                              regards,
                              Fred.
                              Hi,
                              what ? a plastic mine change the magnetic field ?

                              This is really new for me...

                              I think the lines of above must be heavy corrected to make any sense...

                              Kind regards,
                              Max

                              "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                              But we dont need a reason
                              "

                              someone said...

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                              • Originally posted by Max View Post
                                Hi,
                                what ? a plastic mine change the magnetic field ?

                                This is really new for me...

                                I think the lines of above must be heavy corrected to make any sense...

                                Kind regards,
                                Max
                                Hi Max,
                                I carefully translated the text,so it is exactly as in the book.
                                But if you read well you will see that the device detect differences between the "normal" and "not normal" field.
                                We know that the plastic don´t disturb the filed, so this is the lack of diturbed field that we are going to detect.
                                At least this is how i understand this.
                                regards,
                                Fred.

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