LRL questions.

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by olympios
Geeee. And they sell that crap for $20,000?

What they sell for $20.000??

http://treasurenow.com/html/TreasureNavigator.html

You sound surprised, Geo?

It's a multi-million dollar industry.

I've talked with one person who paid $80,000, and another who paid $35,000, and many, many, who paid from $5,000 to $12,000 for similar units. It's not uncommon for LRL's to sell for $3,000, or more.

And yes, the majority that are sold, and for the highest prices are manufactured by electronic engineers, and techs.

Consumers have their choice of a wide variety of LRL products on the market, and who they wish to buy from. Dell

[olympios]

What they sell for $20.000??

Check this unit: http://www.treasurenow.com/html/TreasureNavigator.html They want a little over $20,000 for it. Scroll down towards the bottom of the page, to see the price.
Einai kleftes. Nai h oxi?

[olympios]

.............
Olympios, I ask again, did you receive a factory warranty with your Omnitron 2? If the Omnitron II, didn't work after several months, I am at a loss to understand why you didn't contact me, and send the product back to me for repair, or possible refund instead of waiting 12 years and posting on an anti-Dell, anti- LRL forum claiming that I somehow mis-lead you, and ripped you off.

I have worked hard to maintain a life long reputation of honesty, and integrity, and I take your allegations seriously.

I have to admit, I'm still trying to figure out how pidgeons were able squeeze in and make a nest in the unit, as you described? Dell

Dell, hi.
It was about 12 years ago. I don't remember if I got factory warranty. Besides, it wouldn't do any good. I was living in Greece then, and it wasn't possible to come here just for that unit. Along with the Omnitron II I purchased another unit (if I remember well, about $200) it was Omni Range or something like that. That didn't work either. Tested by me and several others. So, I came to the conclussion that LRLs don't work, and I gave up on them. In the year 2001, I came back here but did not bring those useless units with me. Just lost interest. In the year 2003 I went back to Greece and took a OKM GPR with me. That didn't do what they advertise it does. Since I paid a lot for it, I brought that back and sold it here.
Anyway, I'm not asking for my money back for the Omnitron II. Just saying what my experience was with it. Also, many people that used them they also say that they do not work. Nothing personal.

[roberts]

"...Einai kleftes. Nai h oxi?.."

NAI !

[hung]

I'll answer these from a scientific perspective...

LRLs cannot detect gold. - Carl

You will have two options in your new 'endeavour job'.
Either be seriously spanked by facts you will discover that prove your above statements are (and always were) not true, learning the hard way, or pretend they are true just to keep your 'show' going on, specially now that you are officially in the 'orthodox side' of metal detecting.

Which one is gonna be?

[Carl-NC]

You will have two options in your new 'endeavour job'.
Either be seriously spanked by facts you will discover that prove your above statements are (and always were) not true, learning the hard way, or pretend they are true just to keep your 'show' going on, specially now that you are officially in the 'orthodox side' of metal detecting.

You might have noticed that my $25,000 challenge remains, and will continue. So anyone who wishes to spank me can not only have fun doing it, but even get paid for the privilege.

- Carl

P.S. - I've noticed that Mineoro backed away from their desire to spank me.

[hung]

You might have noticed that my $25,000 challenge remains, and will continue. So anyone who wishes to spank me can not only have fun doing it, but even get paid for the privilege.

I already told youself your 'challenge' is ficticious and an utopia. It was just made to self promotion. And despite of that you backed out from Kelly Brown's challenge and almost peed in your pants when you knew you would be knocked out by his device 'live in national broadcast'..
Well, this would be a good promotion for you anyway...

I've noticed that Mineoro backed away from their desire to spank me.

I admit I told them in the past your 'circus and pony show' was not worth.
Don't know if they consider what I said or not.
Anyway, Damasio is ill and he's unable to travel and I fear this will only get worse. But you were always invited by them to show up with all support you choose to perform the 'challenge' here, due to Damasio's health condition.
You never answered this. I'll be glad in telling him if you agree.

If you really are serious about your 'challenge' you would accept come here.
But what the heck, you know you will back out from this as well... You don't have the guts.

[Fred]

Hung,

Do you suffer from Multiple Personality Syndrome?
Fred.

[hung]

Hung,

Do you suffer from Multiple Personality Syndrome?
Fred.

??????

[roberts]

Hung,

Do you suffer from Multiple Personality Syndrome?
Fred.

Seems suffers from many multiplied syndromes at the same time!?

[Qiaozhi]

Hung,

Do you suffer from Multiple Personality Syndrome?
Fred.

??????

It was a simple question. I understood the deeper meaning, but clearly you did not!

[Qiaozhi]

Olympios, appears to claim that neither he, or his brother ever got a response with the rods even after months of practice and trying to make it work, so Carl, you make a mute point.

Hmmm ... this is an interesting statement ... given that you claim you do not have to be a dowser to use the Omnitron .

[Carl-NC]

Hung,

No, I didn't back out, Michael Tune (Kelly Brown's partner) did. We had a contract ready to go, and he (not me) decided not to proceed. I will still follow through as soon as he is ready, but I doubt that will ever happen. Same with Bob Yocum; I now have a signed contract with him, but he refuses to proceed. You already know all this, but continue to make the same ol' false claims. I can't do anything about it when claimants won't follow through.

You've spent a lot of effort on this forum trying to counter my critique of LRLs. So why would you tell Mineoro I'm not worth their time? Are you as sure as I am that they will fail? Why would you NOT want someone to prove me wrong, to publically "spank" me?

It's funny how you guys would love to see that happen, but instead you do all you can to prevent it, and then blame me.

- Carl

[J_Player]

Sometimes I wonder....
Why is it that nobody on earth who sells LRLs will demonstrate their LRL finding treasure in a double blind test?

Why is it that a credible test of an LRL is always declined and substituted with claims that the test is not fair? If these LRLs work, why not show us all how good they perform just like the people who sell metal detectors do? Do you suppose an LRL can pass a double blind test performing exactly as the advertising claims they perform?



Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Check this unit: http://www.treasurenow.com/html/TreasureNavigator.html They want a little over $20,000 for it. Scroll down towards the bottom of the page, to see the price.
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