reply to criticism on geophysics thread

[hipopp]

Listen up guys! I am not just a darn idiot sucker who handed over $650 for a device that did not work...i could have got my money back but no way am i parting with my rangertell complete with hewlett packard mathematicians calculator "stuck" on top. I am a retired former technician/technical officer and i just happen to know about these things OK? I got it working for me after considerable messing about with it like resetting the aerial after each button change , had to work out everything myself pretty much cos they did not send me the CD with it till much later. Worked off their user guide onsite and spent hours and hours in a proper technical assessment of the thing. I stand by my word that i can pick up a nugget of 0.6 grams (that i bought on ebay to test it) at 50 meters. Fact! final! No error! My rangertell does not look anything like the one that was tested so you flamers get your facts straight before you slander a perfectly good product. Now having said all that, Ranger recomend you have a metal detector as well to save time locating the target when close up. Avoids using triangulation blah blah blah. A detector goes straight to the spot. Much quicker. But mates I can find a mineralised patch at distance and know what ground to avoid. You guys have to do the hard yards and trudge every square inch of soil to detect thereby wasting 99% of your time. You can argue with Ranger all you like about their productsbut mine WORKS!!!!!! I was sincere enough to leave you my contact details for anyone sincere in thier enquiries regarding its effectiveness as a gold detector. But do not bother thanks, I hate prejudice. A test of a product found wanting by the products opposition, you kidding me right? By the way I live in Patten ST Sale Victoria and am not associated with Rangertell in any way. Cheers....

[hung]

Hi Hipopp,

That the RT unit works, this is no surprise. If you look here in this forum, several months ago I wrote a report about the AC and even DC variations it produced when locating a target.
Of course Carl's 'parafernalia' started some years ago, a temptative to discredit it pretending that electronically it would do nothing.
As you know, it only requires a pair of neurons to prove the opposite. Since then his followers abounded just like some 'school of thought' in the past who ruled the earth was flat.

The RT works, but it's a rudimentary aproach to comunicate with target. Today, with the advent of modern electronics, a much more advanced system can be assembled.

Take care.

[Fred]

Listen up guys! I am not just a darn idiot sucker who handed over $650 for a device that did not work.......

Hi,
why did you start a new thread instead of to continue the other one?

Hi Hipopp,
The RT works, but it's a rudimentary aproach to comunicate with target. Today, with the advent of modern electronics, a much more advanced system can be assembled.Take care.

"...available soon at a special price" , right ?


Fred.

[hung]

"...available soon at a special price" , right ?


Fred.

Sorry to disapoint you Fred, but I will reiterate again. The devices I use for TH WILL NEVER be sold remaining of my team's exclusive use and the Technology involved WILL NEVER be discussed here anytime. I'm not dealer of no LRL.

My advice for you is to do just like I did. Research, study and you will understand.
Regards.

[Theseus]

Listen up guys!

I'm listening; you voiced your opinion, now I'll voice mine. Seems fair doesn't it?

I stand by my word that i can pick up a nugget of 0.6 grams (that i bought on ebay to test it) at 50 meters.

I'm sure you can "pick up" your test nugget. However, unless that nugget was hidden according to strict Double-Blind Test Protocol, and the test was repeated a significant number of times, the results of such a test are really useless and prove nothing as to value/worth of your R-T dowsing rod.

My rangertell does not look anything like the one that was tested so you flamers get your facts straight before you slander a perfectly good product.

The mere fact that your R-T dowsing wand still has a calculator glued to the top of a swivel handle, indicates that Vincent Blanes is still using the advertising ploy that plugging numbers into the calculator is somehow influencing the sensitivity and/or discrimination "powers" of the dowsing rod. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing!

The ONLY thing that plugging those numbers in could be doing; is to mentally program the dowsers mind into believing the dowsing rod is now programmed to only pick up certain items, or at certain distances. Strictly a mental exercise, and nothing more.

Now having said all that, Ranger recomend you have a metal detector as well to save time locating the target when close up. Avoids using triangulation blah blah blah. A detector goes straight to the spot.

Of course Vincent would recommend the use of a metal detector. Vincent knows that if his dowsing rod points in a certain direction, you will then take your metal detector and start searching in EVER INCREASING diameter circles until BINGO! you eventually dig something up that might resemble what it was you were searching to find.

Several other LRL scam artists have recommended the use of a metal detector, for exactly the same reasons. They know that whenever an LRL contraption is melded with a metal detector, the operator will never know if what they found was as a result of the LRL, or the metal detector. But in all cases, the operator will want to believe that the LRL contraption was responsible for the find. It is a very old marketing trick and has been in use for decades now. Vincent merely borrowed the trick from other more established wallet-miners.

If you are really interested in determining the worth of your new R-T dowsing wand, test it against a bent piece of wire. Unfold a coat hanger and then bend it up into an L shape. If you actually compare the two (which I doubt you will) --you will find (in fair double blind tests) the bent wire will work every bit as good as the dowsing rod with a calculator glued on top.

But then, the coat hanger didn't cost a boat load of money!

Good Luck and Best Regards

[Qiaozhi]

I'm not dealer of no LRL.

Your English has declined - that's a double-negative. If you're not a dealer of no LRL, then you must be an LRL dealer. You said it , not me!
I wonder which one of your schizophrenic personalities I talking to?

I'm listening; you voiced your opinion, now I'll voice mine. Seems fair doesn't it?

I'm sure you can "pick up" your test nugget. However, unless that nugget was hidden according to strict Double-Blind Test Protocol, and the test was repeated a significant number of times, the results of such a test are really useless and prove nothing as to value/worth of your R-T dowsing rod.

The mere fact that your R-T dowsing wand still has a calculator glued to the top of a swivel handle, indicates that Vincent Blanes is still using the advertising ploy that plugging numbers into the calculator is somehow influencing the sensitivity and/or discrimination "powers" of the dowsing rod. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing!

The ONLY thing that plugging those numbers in could be doing; is to mentally program the dowsers mind into believing the dowsing rod is now programmed to only pick up certain items, or at certain distances. Strictly a mental exercise, and nothing more.

Of course Vincent would recommend the use of a metal detector. Vincent knows that if his dowsing rod points in a certain direction, you will then take your metal detector and start searching in EVER INCREASING diameter circles until BINGO! you eventually dig something up that might resemble what it was you were searching to find.

Several other LRL scam artists have recommended the use of a metal detector, for exactly the same reasons. They know that whenever an LRL contraption is melded with a metal detector, the operator will never know if what they found was as a result of the LRL, or the metal detector. But in all cases, the operator will want to believe that the LRL contraption was responsible for the find. It is a very old marketing trick and has been in use for decades now. Vincent merely borrowed the trick from other more established wallet-miners.

If you are really interested in determining the worth of your new R-T dowsing wand, test it against a bent piece of wire. Unfold a coat hanger and then bend it up into an L shape. If you actually compare the two (which I doubt you will) --you will find (in fair double blind tests) the bent wire will work every bit as good as the dowsing rod with a calculator glued on top.

But then, the coat hanger didn't cost a boat load of money!

Good Luck and Best Regards

I couldn't agree more ... well said.

[J_Player]

Unfold a coat hanger and then bend it up into an L shape. If you actually compare the two (which I doubt you will) --you will find (in fair double blind tests) the bent wire will work every bit as good as the dowsing rod with a calculator glued on top.

Is it really necessary to bend an L shape? Won't a coat hanger shape find treasure as well as an LRL?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Is it really necessary to bend an L shape? Won't a coat hanger shape find treasure as well as an LRL?

Best wishes,
J_P

Mmmmmm... probably.

[Qiaozhi]

Is it really necessary to bend an L shape? Won't a coat hanger shape find treasure as well as an LRL?

Best wishes,
J_P

Didn't you mean: "Will fail to find treasure as well as an LRL."?

[Fred]

Didn't you mean: "Will fail to find treasure as well as an LRL."?

If we consider that a LRL don´t find treasure at all , it does not matter: the sense remains the same

[Qiaozhi]

If we consider that a LRL don´t find treasure at all , it does not matter: the sense remains the same

Not really ... as the first statement makes an incorrect assumption.

[Clondike Clad]

Same old lame crap.

First of all if I had a working lrl why in the hell would I be posting on this site.
I WOULD BE DIGGING AND GETTING RICH.
IF YOUR RT WORKS AND WE ALL KNOW IT DON'T ,GET RICH AND STOP beachchen(you know the word i can't use).
I will go back to LURKING "It is the same old lame crap again."
My LRL is a XL PRO with a 25 inch coil and anyone can make that puppy work.

[Max]

First of all if I had a working lrl why in the hell would I be posting on this site.
I WOULD BE DIGGING AND GETTING RICH.
IF YOUR RT WORKS AND WE ALL KNOW IT DON'T ,GET RICH AND STOP beachchen(you know the word i can't use).
I will go back to LURKING "It is the same old lame crap again."
My LRL is a XL PRO with a 25 inch coil and anyone can make that puppy work.

Wow.... what a fresbee !

62+ cm diameter... and what about weight ???

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

My LRL is a XL PRO with a 25 inch coil and anyone can make that puppy work.

That sounds a real beast!

[Esteban]

First of all if I had a working lrl why in the hell would I be posting on this site.
I WOULD BE DIGGING AND GETTING RICH.
IF YOUR RT WORKS AND WE ALL KNOW IT DON'T ,GET RICH AND STOP beachchen(you know the word i can't use).
I will go back to LURKING "It is the same old lame crap again."
My LRL is a XL PRO with a 25 inch coil and anyone can make that puppy work.

Trying White's Eagle II as LRL for 7-10 meters for a single coin. Appears this detector is good in depth...

Regards

Esteban