This will change the world

[Dell Winders]

Well Steve, it looks like you are the one not answering personal questions. It's all right for you to not answer personal questions, but not all right for me?

Shame on the hypocrite.

O.K. Steve, You got a deal if you can build the Pro-4 for $50 each. I'll start with 50 complete units and be happy to pass the savings on to my customers. Dell

[Max]

As long as it is amusing to use other people's photos for your avatar, maybe this one would work for you...

it's the old pimp !

[Clondike Clad]

Funny You ask!!!!

Clondike, I've tried to answer a few personal questions, but this forum is not an appropriate place to relate all of life's challenges that brought me to my present status. However, if it is important to you, you are welcome to visit me in Central Florida, and see for your self. Dell

We will be in your part of the world next year.
You can show me how your detector works and I can post what I learn.
I will be bring some of my LRL detectors with me.
White's M6 with Eclipse Deepscan DD 1400 coil.White,s XLPRO with 25inch coil Plus some White's water detectors with 6inch and 950 coils.
Dell I will also be bringing my BIG DOG DETECTOR TO TEST WITH YOUR LRL DETECTORS I want to try my Smooth Mode on your gold( MINELAB GPX4000 WITH A TON OF COILS)Dell I got the Gold fever for some of that old SPAIN gold.
I hope you did not find it all.We can do some side by side testing.
Oh Dell I I only care about seeing your detectors only.
Hope to see you in 2009.Me and the wifie will be in the big camper so we will have a place to stay.

[Fred]

It's all right for you to not answer personal questions, but not all right for me?

I ave not made any personal question and didn´t got an answer from you either...

[Clondike Clad]

WOW

Thanks! That's not a photo of me either. Maybe you didn't notice, but I did change my avatar last night, and Clondike Clad got all riled up about it, so I switched back today to satisfy his objection to the new avatar.

I sure don't know what it is about this avatar photo that generates so much Skeptic attention? Do you know who it is? Dell

Wow If that is so, can you do one more thing stop the lies tha will aso keep me from being riled up.Dell now we are gettting somewhere.
But still who is that man it is not you and Clondike is getting riled up again.
You are good at what you do Dell.
Hope to work with you in 2009(like i said I GOT THE OLDE SPAIN GOLD FEVER.)

[Dell Winders]

We will be in your part of the world next year.
You can show me how your detector works and I can post what I learn.
I will be bring some of my LRL detectors with me.
White's M6 with Eclipse Deepscan DD 1400 coil.White,s XLPRO with 25inch coil Plus some White's water detectors with 6inch and 950 coils.
Dell I will also be bringing my BIG DOG DETECTOR TO TEST WITH YOUR LRL DETECTORS I want to try my Smooth Mode on your gold( MINELAB GPX4000 WITH A TON OF COILS)Dell I got the Gold fever for some of that old SPAIN gold.
I hope you did not find it all.We can do some side by side testing.
Oh Dell I I only care about seeing your detectors only.
Hope to see you in 2009.Me and the wifie will be in the big camper so we will have a place to stay.

Clondike, I am honored that you will come to visit us. Treasure hunting, and adventure is my passion, so we definitely have something in common.

There is a camp grounds just down the street from me, and another less than a mile.

I'm sorry, I don't have any gold, except for one small nugget. I cashed in a couple of coins I had for testing, for food & gas.

Despite the prejudice, hatred, stupid allegations, and character assinations against me on this forum, I do not lie, and have not lied to any one on this forum.

My avatar picture is of a person who goes to great measures to conceal his identity and could end up in serious trouble again if it is proven that he is still using the internet in a smear campaign of threats and libelous statements. He's a deceptive, well educated person with a mental problem that needs treatment.
I hope he gets it. I don't wish to reveal his name at this time, in the hope that he will seek professional help.

Clondike, I look forward to your visit, and hope you will give me a call at my home in Haines city, Florida and we can start to get acquainted. My number is 863 422 5454.

The invasion of Blind Mosquitoes inside my little work area have died. Now, I can clean out the Spider webs, and spiders, and turn the lights on and
get to work again. (the consequences of open living in a paradise)

I'll have to drop out of posting here for a while unless I have another work delay that allows me some time here. It's been fun. Thanks! Dell

[Max]

Clondike, I am honored that you will come to visit us. Treasure hunting, and adventure is my passion, so we definitely have something in common.

There is a camp grounds just down the street from me, and another less than a mile.

I'm sorry, I don't have any gold, except for one small nugget. I cashed in a couple of coins I had for testing, for food & gas.

Despite the prejudice, hatred, stupid allegations, and character assinations against me on this forum, I do not lie, and have not lied to any one on this forum.

My avatar picture is of a person who goes to great measures to conceal his identity and could end up in serious trouble again if it is proven that he is still using the internet in a smear campaign of threats and libelous statements. He's a deceptive, well educated person with a mental problem that needs treatment.
I hope he gets it. I don't wish to reveal his name at this time, in the hope that he will seek professional help.

Clondike, I look forward to your visit, and hope you will give me a call at my home in Haines city, Florida and we can start to get acquainted. My number is 863 422 5454.

The invasion of Blind Mosquitoes inside my little work area have died. Now, I can clean out the Spider webs, and spiders, and turn the lights on and
get to work again. (the consequences of open living in a paradise)

I'll have to drop out of posting here for a while unless I have another work delay that allows me some time here. It's been fun. Thanks! Dell

"My number is 863 422 5454."

Uhm... why don't use PM for that stuff ???

I think someone could have the bad idea to wrote that number in all say California's public baths linking that number to some se.xy phone service!

You could wake up by the phone everynight... just to hear some maniac on the other side of wire!

That's an idea for the old pimp!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

I'm sorry, I don't have any gold, except for one small nugget. I cashed in a couple of coins I had for testing, for food & gas. Dell

Well Dell ... I don't know what to say.
For a self-proclaimed "full-time treasure hunter", you appear to be almost destitute, without two cents to rub together. I guess that, you being the honest person you claim to be, meant you were unable to write "successful full-time treasure hunter" on your website. This is hardly a good advertisement for your products. It kind of reminds me of the fat woman, who sells dietary and nutritional supplements.

[Theseus]

Well Dell ... I don't know what to say.
For a self-proclaimed "full-time treasure hunter", you appear to be almost destitute, without two cents to rub together. I guess that, you being the honest person you claim to be, meant you were unable to write "successful full-time treasure hunter" on your website. This is hardly a good advertisement for your products. It kind of reminds me of the fat woman, who sells dietary and nutritional supplements.

I'm sure you didn't actually fall for that line of BS. When he got to the line where he "sold off a gold nugget and an old coin to get groceries and gas".... I nearly fell on the floor laughing.

I mean, let's let a little logic into this picture. You've seen the inside of those boxes of do-nothing electronics, and you know what he sells them for. Then of course there is the paint-roller handle with the two cups of sand attached to it. He's always claimed to be backordered and "busy" building them. Just take the sales from say 5 years and take half of it and assume it is drawing interest at a modest rate. A family of 6 could easily live off that amount of interest ---no problem. And in his case, there are just two of them. Also, let's not forget about the income Trudy makes from the craft shows and tailgate sales.

There is one other thing that doesn't add up. If he's got enough money to hire a lawyer to harass this poor devil that he's got a grudge against, I hardly think he'd be selling off a nugget and a coin to put gas in his car and buy a hamburger.

If you read much of his stuff it's like.... he doesn't pay any attention to what he just said the day before, or in some cases; what he said in the beginning of the same message. Holy Crackers...... wouldn't you like to do business with a guy like that. After your final handshake, you better be counting your fingers.

[Qiaozhi]

I'm sure you didn't actually fall for that line of BS. When he got to the line where he "sold off a gold nugget and an old coin to get groceries and gas".... I nearly fell on the floor laughing.

I mean, let's let a little logic into this picture. You've seen the inside of those boxes of do-nothing electronics, and you know what he sells them for. Then of course there is the paint-roller handle with the two cups of sand attached to it. He's always claimed to be backordered and "busy" building them. Just take the sales from say 5 years and take half of it and assume it is drawing interest at a modest rate. A family of 6 could easily live off that amount of interest ---no problem. And in his case, there are just two of them. Also, let's not forget about the income Trudy makes from the craft shows and tailgate sales.

There is one other thing that doesn't add up. If he's got enough money to hire a lawyer to harass this poor devil that he's got a grudge against, I hardly think he'd be selling off a nugget and a coin to put gas in his car and buy a hamburger.

If you read much of his stuff it's like.... he doesn't pay any attention to what he just said the day before, or in some cases; what he said in the beginning of the same message. Holy Crackers...... wouldn't you like to do business with a guy like that. After your final handshake, you better be counting your fingers.

What I was trying to point out was (like you said) - "it doesn't add up". On the one hand we hear extraordinary claims of great riches being pinpointed, without even leaving the kitchen table (map dowsing), and on the other hand we read about poor old destitute Dell living a life of poverty with only one gold nugget to his name. If it wasn't for welfare, how could these LRL manufacturers survive?

[Steve in MS]

Despite the prejudice, hatred, stupid allegations, and character assinations against me on this forum, I do not lie, and have not lied to any one on this forum.

My avatar picture is of a person who goes to great measures to conceal his identity and could end up in serious trouble again if it is proven that he is still using the internet in a smear campaign of threats and libelous statements. He's a deceptive, well educated person with a mental problem that needs treatment.
I hope he gets it. I don't wish to reveal his name at this time, in the hope that he will seek professional help.

Dell

So you leaving while having so much fun, no one is threatening you, you are just paranoid from selling all those useless units, maybe you misread your dowser, it could be out of adjustment, like that really matters. Drugs again? Tea leaves are more more accurate than your units are, maybe you are using that method but replaced the tea with weed? Libelous statements? Maybe just struck a nerve or 2.
You do offer a money back guarantee in case your units don't work, dont you, that however may not be such a good idea because none of them work. We really appreciate all the good info you afforded us here, hopefully when others do a google search they will find it.

[Theseus]

Maybe if I take the picture of the Snake Oil salesman out of the "sig block", Dell will find some free time to come and play again.

[Sean_Goddard]

Dell, I think the issue is NOT whether an LRL works, but the bullsh*t and made up terms used to describe a metaphysical anomaly which, by virtue that is IS what is it, CANNOT be explained!

To my mind the people who designed these LRL's have stumbled upon something that works, and probably works well, but just make themselves look stupid by waffling a load of rubbish. THAT'S why you will find ridicule and derision for the subject here. It's not that we don't doubt the thing may or may not work, just the intellectual wannabes who profess to be able to understand and explain that which can't be either.

We ARE Engineers and Scientists, we deal in quantifiable units and measureable quantities of proven and explainable tangibles, not in "Pie in the sky" made up terms like ionic resonance. A few years ago, it was the ionic decay of gold (WTF??!!??) OH YAWN As an Engineer of some 30 yeras in the business, I admit I dont know it all, but this ionic BS is just meant to baffle and impress gullible idiots with more money than sense (just like the "I make $10000 per day from the internet and do NOTHING, buy my foolproof plan that tells you how, ONLY $25")....YEAH...YAWN...

I bet NO one has the rocks to advertise an LRL as "We don't know how it works, it just does, and we can PROVE it"!! Now THAT I would buy, but this SOOOOOOOOO Obvious made up rubbish, NAH I think not

HYPE DETECTOR ACTIVE..... B.S., PSEUDO SCIENTIFIC TERMS and HYPE Detected..!!!!!!

[Theseus]

Dell, I think the issue is NOT whether an LRL works, but the bullsh*t and made up terms used to describe a metaphysical anomaly which, by virtue that is IS what is it, CANNOT be explained!

Exactly. As scientists and engineers, we already know the definitions of familiar rational terms both from physics and electronics. When LRL salesmen borrow these familiar terms, and then tie them together in odd ways, or worse yet, redefine them; --it will always trip the BS meter, and will make for interesting questions, demands for proof and debate.

It would be much better if they would simply make up their own terminology, to begin with, or as you suggest simply state they don't have any idea what is responsible for their results(?).

Unfortunately, it is a lot easier to disguise and sell dowsing constraptions with previously accepted (borrowed) and familiar terms, than with made up terms such as dohinky, flabbershist, polykookerbib and hefershaft.

Of course many of the commercial LRL items are purposely coupled (disguised) with electrical and electronic components, so I suppose it is natural to try and explain these do-nothing components, and circuits, with familiar terminology. Their targeted market are the gullible and technically-challenged, and they will always be dazzled by the lights and BS terminology.

[Sean_Goddard]

EXACTLY!!