Dogs and MFD's

[J_Player]

I tried to find out how the dog was trained, but all I got was that the owner praised the dog and took it for a walk as a reward after success.

I have been told there are several prerequisites to training a dog. One of them is you must be smarter than the dog.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

I have been told there are several prerequisites to training a dog. One of them is you must be smarter than the dog.

Best wishes,
J_P

Oh dear... me thinks we might have a problem here.

[Qiaozhi]

I have been told there are several prerequisites to training a dog. One of them is you must be smarter than the dog.

Best wishes,
J_P

From what I can determine, it appears that the dog is training the owner. Perhaps he's trying to mine his wallet.

[Fred]

I know but I do not feel I should say.

Is this a technological secret ??
are you going to sell puppies or trained dogs?

[Mike(Mont)]

If the people don't post the info then I assume they don't want me to post it. From what I gather, it has more to do with the relationship between the owner and the dog--the dog tries to please the owner, but I don't really know because I can't seem to train animals any better than I can train a skeptic. I've read training manuals and all I remember is the owner needs to be trained and never kow-tow to a Chow Chow.

[Max]

If the people don't post the info then I assume they don't want me to post it. From what I gather, it has more to do with the relationship between the owner and the dog--the dog tries to please the owner, but I don't really know because I can't seem to train animals any better than I can train a skeptic. I've read training manuals and all I remember is the owner needs to be trained and never kow-tow to a Chow Chow.

But still we don't know if you feel more like a cat or a dog !?

But... I know... all dowsers and entusiast LRL guys never answer the interesting questions!

Kinda of a virus !

[Mike(Mont)]

One other possibility is that the dogs might be hearing the signal line. One guy said he happened to point his L-rod at his dog's ear and he saw the ear twitch (the dog was looking the other direction). I know the human aura has sound...

[Mike(Mont)]

I read that dogs are affected by magnetic fields. Tests were done where they reversed the polarity to their brain and the dogs went unconscious. I don't know exactly how this relates to the MFD signal line, but it sounds to me like there is something there. Some animals can be taught to be sensitive to magnetic fields. I got this out of a book by Victor Beasley "Your Electro-Vibratory Body".

[Steve in MS]

But... I know... all dowsers and entusiast LRL guys never answer the interesting questions!

Kinda of a virus !

You've got that right, Max, I have never seen so much ducking and dodging when simple questions are asked.

Regards,
Steve

[Qiaozhi]

I read that dogs are affected by magnetic fields. Tests were done where they reversed the polarity to their brain and the dogs went unconscious. I don't know exactly how this relates to the MFD signal line, but it sounds to me like there is something there. Some animals can be taught to be sensitive to magnetic fields. I got this out of a book by Victor Beasley "Your Electro-Vibratory Body".

And I suppose you have the whole six volume set of "The Supersensitive Life of Man"? Now we know where all this stuff is coming from. At Powells Books, this book is listed in the Parapsychology section with Uri Geller, ghosts, hauntings, poltergeists, pendulums, dowsing and pyramid power.

This is the sort of nonsense that Mike has been reading: "Healing in its essence is a spiritual-soul impulse operating in the worlds of matter, for in the ultimate sense, the patient, not the physician, heals himself through contact with the higher forces of his own cosmic-governed consciousness, whether or not he is aware that such contact has been made."

[Theseus]

And I suppose you have the whole six volume set of "The Supersensitive Life of Man"? Now we know where all this stuff is coming from. At Powells Books, this book is listed in the Parapsychology section with Uri Geller, ghosts, hauntings, poltergeists, pendulums, dowsing and pyramid power.

This is the sort of nonsense that Mike has been reading: "Healing in its essence is a spiritual-soul impulse operating in the worlds of matter, for in the ultimate sense, the patient, not the physician, heals himself through contact with the higher forces of his own cosmic-governed consciousness, whether or not he is aware that such contact has been made."

Mike fell for the Christopher Hills garbage hook, line and sinker. Can't tell you how many quotes he's entered from the Hills gobbly-gook. Mike turned another LRL forum into nothing more than a repository for his book reports. I doubt that will happen here, but.... he's working on it.

[Mike(Mont)]

You seem to have a conflict between your self image and your true image. You just can't stand to admit you might be wrong. In the 12 years I have been on the forums I can't recall when you admitted you were wrong. There might have been one time but even that I think you refused to admit it. Prostitue the intellect to defend the ego. That's one of the many reasons you "can't dowse any better than random chance". I guess that's why you hide behind the alias'.

I know you are a perfectionist. I said years ago this is a bad way to be. With your bitter attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you, you can never be happy until you change. Growth and change are what keeps you moving in the right direction. You don't get that without an open mind. You don't get change until you are sick and tired of the way you are.

You criticize me for reading books yet you praise yourself and Carl for the same thing. You can't have it both ways. Besides, books are only a start. Every teacher knows this. If you don't back it up with experience, the knowledge is worthless.

[Theseus]

You seem to have a conflict between your self image and your true image. You just can't stand to admit you might be wrong. In the 12 years I have been on the forums I can't recall when you admitted you were wrong. There might have been one time but even that I think you refused to admit it. Prostitue the intellect to defend the ego. That's one of the many reasons you "can't dowse any better than random chance". I guess that's why you hide behind the alias'.

I know you are a perfectionist. I said years ago this is a bad way to be. With your bitter attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you, you can never be happy until you change. Growth and change are what keeps you moving in the right direction. You don't get that without an open mind. You don't get change until you are sick and tired of the way you are.

You criticize me for reading books yet you praise yourself and Carl for the same thing. You can't have it both ways. Besides, books are only a start. Every teacher knows this. If you don't back it up with experience, the knowledge is worthless.

I have not a single clue what you are rambling on and on about. Apparently, some other adversary in your past has left an indelible scar on your psyche and you are taking out on those who post on this forum. If it makes you feel better, have fun. Try to remember most of these forums are archived, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find them and read them.

[Mike(Mont)]

I was raised by a perfectionist skeptic. I was a much more hard-core skeptic than anyone on any forum I have been to. I still am very much the doubting Thomas. Until I see it with my own eyes and touch it, I have serious doubts.

And as for a formal education, I think the vast majority of students are nothing more than lab animals who have been trained to run a maze. They can't think for themself. And if you don't understand what it means to "Prostitute the intellect to defend the ego", the you aren't even trying to learn. I'll be the first to admit that I have been guilty of this a few times. You can't dowse with that attitude because your left brain gets in the way. There's nothing difficult to understand here. You can't think and dowse at the same time.

I've read many places that animals use dowsing. I guess they know more about it than most skeptics and they obviously are better dowsers than even some people who have dowsing experience. Don't play dumb, you just refuse to admit that the MFD signal line is real. Even dogs can sense it. I even sense some envy here. If you really want to learn you have to be humble. That means you have to practice for several weeks. Your brains won't carry you through on this one enough to learn in twenty minutes, so why don't you just admit it to yourself. Everyone else already knows it.

[Mike(Mont)]

People who rely on their intellect are just crippled when it comes to dowsing. If you question the rod, it's like the story in the Bible where the woman looks back as they are escaping and she turns to a pillar of salt. That's what that story is about, the skeptic mind trying to control things that are not for them to control.

Same with MFD, some people say it's only dowsing. Well, it is dowsing to an extent, the person still has to sense the signal line, but they don't have to do the discrimination. You do have to be able to use the rods. I can't count how many times I have tried to reason it. It can't be here, I don't believe it. That's the intellect trying to control things.