PDK LRL

[Esteban]

Hi Max
You become more smart about LRL technology!!!

Of course it works...

Of course!!!

[Esteban]

Hi,
it's easy. I think the idea is picking up some electromagnetic anomaly.

The idea behind ? What I think...

The short turn + toroid coil act like an IB transformer, the e.g. flux that chain with the loop generates a very small eddy current flowing in the closed aluminium turn. Normally the coil on toroid is about insensitive to the background noise cause the magnetic flux at toroid is inside the toroid... but when the eddy current flows inside it the toroid coil will get some coupled magnetic flux cause of flux lines that concentrate at inner side of it, thus offering some (limited) coupling with the signal at antenna loop.

It's like in some directive rf meters... just at right direction you can spot the emission cause of the geometric properties of loop coil and lose coupling of receiver transformer (right Esteban ?).

The second one, open loop is similar, but... instead of using magnetic coupling between the eddy current (and its magnetic field) and the receiver toroid core, you have the aluminium loop acting as a voltage generator (only ac will work) connected to the primary of a transformer (for impedance separation)... now... if a voltage will develop at aluminium turn you'll get a scaled value of that at output of transformer depending on turns ratio there...with hi impedance separation between loop and load.

Also this approach is common in old rf locating stuff... and meters.

The first approach I think is more easy cause you don't need perfect match of impedance required to get it work... the second is probably sensitive to the transformer construction more than one could think.

Now the problem is (one way or another): does it work ??? Could this approach pay as LRL ???

Kind regards,
Max

Yes, those good conductive metals buried from long time causes an electromagnetic anomaly, and maybe the magnetic field of Earth distort a little here. Yes, I think electric and magnetic anomaly = electromagnetic.

Yes, works!!!

[Esteban]

Here some kinds. The black (with plastic) is aerial for distribute TV signals cable (gross coaxial). The round has the core inside the telephonic plug.

[Morgan]

Ionic Electrostatic LRL

Yes, those good conductive metals buried from long time causes an electromagnetic anomaly, and maybe the magnetic field of Earth distort a little here. Yes, I think electric and magnetic anomaly = electromagnetic.

Yes, works!!!

Hi Esteban
This LRL with large antenna react only in big(not less than 10x10cm) hig conductive targets buried long time ago,a few meters distance. It works with BFO oscilator + ions detector.I want to put this for better reaction of small objects.
I dont have probleme to put schematic of this LRL here in the forum,no need closed forum for this,if you or others want i can put,for better understanding of LRL and the Phenomena of the eletromagnetic fields.
This device react strongly to the electrostatic energies.

Regards

[Esteban]

This deppend of you. But better if you obtain permission of constructor.

Regards

Esteban

[Morgan]

LRL BIG ANTENNA

This deppend of you. But better if you obtain permission of constructor.

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban

But this constructor is a friend with limited knolendge about LRL,he know the phenomena exist,and construct this device based on some informations,of course i have his permition. This device need some improvments to work perfect. If its not boring ,you can have a look on schematic.
I can put the schematic. I think you can advice me about better size of antenna or change some component values. The electronics inside are very simple,you can build one of this for you easily. its good also for LRL beginners. I´m sure no Heathkit inside. The circuit is unique BFO+ION generator.
I have problems with this one because not stable...But it works with the phenomena.The box should be constructed in wood.

Regards

[Morgan]

Ionic electrostatic

This deppend of you. But better if you obtain permission of constructor.

Regards

Esteban

And let the skeptics laugh with this one LRL also...

[Esteban]

And let the skeptics laugh with this one LRL also...

This is unstable because your BFO is unstable, but with a very good BFO you can do more.

[Morgan]

This deppend of you. But better if you obtain permission of constructor.

Regards

Esteban

Device looks heavy but in reality its ligthweigth. It as ionic antenna made of aluminium . One big problem its because it as one internal trimmer from radio,and it needs most of the times adjustments,its the MicroHenry selector. I´m sure you can advice me some other kind of trimmer,to use outside the wood box...
The other problem its when working near power lines,beeps everywere,much more than Mineoro models.
Pinpoint also is dificult with this one...

Regards

[Esteban]

Device looks heavy but in reality its ligthweigth. It as ionic antenna made of aluminium . One big problem its because it as one internal trimmer from radio,and it needs most of the times adjustments,its the MicroHenry selector. I´m sure you can advice me some other kind of trimmer,to use outside the wood box...
The other problem its when working near power lines,beeps everywere,much more than Mineoro models.
Pinpoint also is dificult with this one...

Regards

Those troubles can be solved, and if power lines are problems, well, discard these places in your searchings!

[Morgan]

LRL BIG ANTENNA

This is unstable because your BFO is unstable, but with a very good BFO you can do more.

Ok,Esteban,during this week i ask to my friend the schematic.
Realy,no need closed forum for this one

But it works with the phenomena...

[Esteban]

Ok,Esteban,during this week i ask to my friend the schematic.
Realy,no need closed forum for this one

But it works with the phenomena...

Of course, no deppend of me.

[Morgan]

LRL

Of course, no deppend of me.

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

[Esteban]

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

Yes, but I don't want publish Alonso's devices by myself.

[Morgan]

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...