LRL Ionic/Electrostatic energy field locator

[PanZero]

Hi Morgan,
can I use copper tube instead of aluminium, as big antenna?

[Morgan]

BFO +ENERGY FIELD LOCATOR

Hi Morgan,
can I use copper tube instead of aluminium, as big antenna?

Yes,and no need so big size,better more small square antenna.

[PanZero]

Yes,and no need so big size,better more small square antenna.

Thanks!!

[Geo]

Hi.
Yesterday i made some tests with my PD only for lrl. I found a place where i take random beeps. This place is about 3x3 m or 4x4m. Beeps are not continued so i cant understand where is the center of the object (if it is something buried). Also when i take 2 or 3 beeps then it stop to beep. I go a little behind and again front and i take again the beeps. There is not any electric power line near 300m. So can anyone to tell me how i will find the center of the object or this PD work as this. Also maybe to be something else phenomenon that i dont know
Regards

[J_Player]

Try this...
Sift every bucket of soil that you excavate through a screen.
When you find the treasure, then you will know where the center is.

(Actually, there are probably other effects of the phenomenon that you can use to find the center. The strategy used by some treasure hunters is to use the LRL to find a general location, then use another instrument to find the center. The other instrument may be anything from a conventional metal detector to additional appliances that are added to the LRL for pinpointing purposes. I will try to describe this in more detail when I make my post about "long time buried metals". Maybe other LRL experimenters will explain their methods for pinpointing to help with this question).

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Try this...
Sift every bucket of soil that you excavate through a screen.
When you find the treasure, then you will know where the center is.

(Actually, there are probably other effects of the phenomenon that you can use to find the center. The strategy used by some treasure hunters is to use the LRL to find a general location, then use another instrument to find the center. The other instrument may be anything from a conventional metal detector to additional appliances that are added to the LRL for pinpointing purposes. I will try to describe this in more detail when I make my post about "long time buried metals". Maybe other LRL experimenters will explain their methods for pinpointing to help with this question).

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P
Yes it is common strategy to use the LRL to find a general location and then to use another instrument to find the center, but in my case the PD don't locate the signal from long distance. There is a square 3 or 4 meters where it gives some random beeps when i move the PD.
Today i will try again it.
Regards

[Theseus]

Try this...
The strategy used by some treasure hunters is to use the LRL to find a general location, then use another instrument to find the center. The other instrument may be anything from a conventional metal detector to additional appliances that are added to the LRL for pinpointing purposes.

Best wishes,
J_P

Generally, they use metal detectors, but their kit could include anything in the way of "conventional instrumentation" including ordinary probe rods. In most instances, the area being covered has two important attributes. 1) it could be hundreds of square feet in size, and 2) it is always in known target producing areas. Naturally, the "conventional" search is carried out until some sort of target is unearthed that "might" qualify as the target that the LRL indicated or was drawn to.

Once "a" target is found, the anecdotal accounting of the entire process lends total credit to the LRL, and there is no mention of the other instrumentation that was utilized to actually make the find.

This is exactly why any formal testing of an LRL instrument is ONLY valid when it is tested in a d-b protocol and totally without the aid of any other type of locating instrumentation or procedures. Any other testing protocol is a purely a waste of time and energy.

[Max]

Hi J_P
Yes it is common strategy to use the LRL to find a general location and then to use another instrument to find the center, but in my case the PD don't locate the signal from long distance. There is a square 3 or 4 meters where it gives some random beeps when i move the PD.
Today i will try again it.
Regards

Hi,
uhm...ok... power lines at at least 300meters, fine.
What about other noise surces ? Maybe you don't know about them.

Let me explain.... if you have an e.g. pipeline under your feet you can have noise too...

Why ? Often pipelines (buried in soil) have wires around that are employed for diagnostic of faults... for corrosion prevention (e.g. some uses direct currents to polarize the pipes) etc

Are you sure you're not above a pipeline ?

You maybe be surprised that you get signals just in a 3x3 or 4x4 meters area... but must know sometimes there are reliefs in that buried structures like inspection or commutation chambers etc above the usual level of pipeline, but always buried.

Kind regards,
Max

[Morgan]

PD

Hi.
Yesterday i made some tests with my PD only for lrl. I found a place where i take random beeps. This place is about 3x3 m or 4x4m. Beeps are not continued so i cant understand where is the center of the object (if it is something buried). Also when i take 2 or 3 beeps then it stop to beep. I go a little behind and again front and i take again the beeps. There is not any electric power line near 300m. So can anyone to tell me how i will find the center of the object or this PD work as this. Also maybe to be something else phenomenon that i dont know
Regards

First of all,you should mark the place N,S,E,W just to see dimention of this electromagnetic field. If you search from South,you are more near the taget becouse Energy project more long to Nort.
Enter with PD inside the E. field,with only Omega working ,search near the ground,but if not find nothing you should try Powerfull MD,thats for sure you will find the target who cause PD signals .

[Fred]

... If you search from South,you are more near the taget becouse Energy project more long to Nort.

This is intersting Morgan, did you notice this many (every?) times and can you tell how important is this effect ? i mean how many % more detection range to North?
regards,
Fred.

[Morgan]

PD

Hi J_P
Yes it is common strategy to use the LRL to find a general location and then to use another instrument to find the center, but in my case the PD don't locate the signal from long distance. There is a square 3 or 4 meters where it gives some random beeps when i move the PD.
Today i will try again it.
Regards

Hi Geo

You cant get more than 3 or 4m distance in a single coin with PD,so you can forget the possibility of buried treasure in this place.
It can be also a piece of silverpaper,or a gold ring,who knows ?...

[Morgan]

PD secrets

This is intersting Morgan, did you notice this many (every?) times and can you tell how important is this effect ? i mean how many % more detection range to North?
regards,
Fred.

The Pistoldetektor,if very well tuned with Ferrite,acts as a COMPASS if you put coil pointed to ground(1 m above). If you search during the nigth and do this procedure,you will note that the GREEN LED will become more powerfull full of ligth when turn PD to NORTH or to SOUTH direction,so it act as a compass,becouse the Ferrite interfere with the Electromagnetic field of this Planet,thats what i think...
About some coins and objects i have found at 4m distance(same as Geo) it as energy projected 3m to North and 1m to South. This projections can happens in eliptical shape,or rectangle. In very tiny objects can be just one line ...

[Esteban]

The Pistoldetektor,if very well tuned with Ferrite,acts as a COMPASS if you put coil pointed to ground(1 m above). If you search during the nigth and do this procedure,you will note that the GREEN LED will become more powerfull full of ligth when turn PD to NORTH or to SOUTH direction,so it act as a compass,becouse the Ferrite interfere with the Electromagnetic field of this Planet,thats what i think...
About some coins and objects i have found at 4m distance(same as Geo) it as energy projected 3m to North and 1m to South. This projections can happens in eliptical shape,or rectangle. In very tiny objects can be just one line ...

Time ago, I sent a pic of this eliptical shape figure. There are a null point (for small targets). This was product of investigations IN THE REAL FIELD!

[Geo]

Hi,
uhm...ok... power lines at at least 300meters, fine.
What about other noise surces ? Maybe you don't know about them.

Let me explain.... if you have an e.g. pipeline under your feet you can have noise too...

Why ? Often pipelines (buried in soil) have wires around that are employed for diagnostic of faults... for corrosion prevention (e.g. some uses direct currents to polarize the pipes) etc

Are you sure you're not above a pipeline ?

You maybe be surprised that you get signals just in a 3x3 or 4x4 meters area... but must know sometimes there are reliefs in that buried structures like inspection or commutation chambers etc above the usual level of pipeline, but always buried.

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max.
The place is a small farm and there is not something like pipes or any similar. I know it because i am the owner. If it was noise then it must beep every time that i move the PD, but it beeps not continuesly, after a beep or 2...3 beeps i must go a little back and again front to hear again the beep. Anyway, it is not a clear signal as at Esteban video.

Regards

[Geo]

Hi Geo

You cant get more than 3 or 4m distance in a single coin with PD,so you can forget the possibility of buried treasure in this place.
It can be also a piece of silverpaper,or a gold ring,who knows ?...

Hi Morgan

Today i will take a compass with me to see exactly the magnetic horizons. At my PD the Omega don't work so i will try with another MD. At the farm there are a lot of copper, aluminium or iron buried objects so maybe one of them to generate the beeps.
I will see

regards