LRL Ionic/Electrostatic energy field locator

[Geo]

geo; the pd only work easy for detect large objetives, when is in dual and critic operation balance, ( omega and ferrites ), then is majory directional, but whit alone ferrites is how am radio, is affected most for field north south of ground
put you ferrites slide adjust then you push and see when

Hi. I made the tests that you say before long time (when we was on the RS forum) but without results. Does your PD works as LRL????
Regards

[J_Player]

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[J_Player]

Can you do some more debunkering?
But this time let us know first, so that we don't blink ... and miss it.

Originally posted by Fred
Yes please Hung, just recently you said debunkering will begin, now it´s already over

I am not sure what "debunkering" is, but I decided to rebunker every bunker that hung debunkers. Maybe some day I will find a place that is debunkered and photograph it for all to see hung's handiwork. But I get the feeling that this is just hung BS -- Probably there are no bunkers or debunkering.

Best wishes,
J_P

Rebunkering all that has been debunkered

[Max]

Hi Max.
Yes, omega is off!! I work with the passive receiver a little modificated, and for ferrite i use a 20cm coil as on photo. It is more more sensitive.
Regards

Hi,
I see, so you had some beeps with just passive receiver. The 20cm you mean for ferrite, or you mean the diameter of round coil in this picture ?

It's interesting that you get beeps at same place, in same small area of few square meters, have you checked with a conventional MD, e.g. a Deltapulse or something there ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Geo]

Hi Max.
20 cm is the diameter of the round coil. I checked the place before time (several months before try the PD ) with MD and there are a lot of not useful objects. Morgan said that this PD can locate only no ferrous objects (if i remember good), so i believe that PD dont locate those iron objects, nails etc. But my problem is other..... at PD videos by Morgan we see a continued beep when he locate the target and the PD is at the same direction with the target. I can't do my pD to work the same!!!!
Regards

[Qiaozhi]

... i use only a round coil, no ferrite. I connect the coil via a 5 pole connector, so when i finish the test i unconnect the coil and i put a 25cm ferrite with coil on it and i try again. But generally the round coil is more sensitive at sparks, radio frequencies and the emission of power lines. Ferrite is tuned at 62KHZ and the round coil at 58 to 82 via a variable capacitor.
Yesterday i had not time to check it again, maybe today
Regards

But my problem is other..... at PD videos by Morgan we see a continued beep when he locate the target and the PD is at the same direction with the target. I can't do my pD to work the same!!!!
Regards

If your PD is constructed so that you can swap over the omega and ferrite coils, then it is not the same as Morgan's PD. So is it any wonder that it does react the same way?

There's no point comparing your results with Hung's video. We have already seen that it is fake.

[Max]

If your PD is constructed so that you can swap over the omega and ferrite coils, then it is not the same as Morgan's PD. So is it any wonder that it does react the same way?

There's no point comparing your results with Hung's video. We have already seen that it is fake.

Hi,
yes, I do not understand how the round coil and ferrite could be swapped unless they are different from previous design.

Geo, you wrote that the beeps are from the passive receiver only: I guess that you made two resonant tanks, one with ferrite coil+fixed capacitor, the other with a round coil+a variable capacitor (let you tune from 58 to 82 as I read), that last one is actually an air-core loop antenna + variable cap.

Then you connect one of these at passive receiver, when omega circuit is off.

Is that right ?

Kind regards,
Max

[humhum]

Hi Geo, send (try , test) video from your Passive Receiver when it beeps.

[Morgan]

FRANKENSTAIN PD

Hi Max.
20 cm is the diameter of the round coil. I checked the place before time (several months before try the PD ) with MD and there are a lot of not useful objects. Morgan said that this PD can locate only no ferrous objects (if i remember good), so i believe that PD dont locate those iron objects, nails etc. But my problem is other..... at PD videos by Morgan we see a continued beep when he locate the target and the PD is at the same direction with the target. I can't do my pD to work the same!!!!
Regards

Of course you cant get the same results with your PD . You are using completly diferent PD from Alonso !!!

[hung]

Hi Hung.
Long time to "speak " with you. How are you????
As i wrote to Max, i use only a round coil, no ferrite. I connect the coil via a 5 pole connector, so when i finish the test i unconnect the coil and i put a 25cm ferrite with coil on it and i try again. But generally the round coil is more sensitive at sparks, radio frequencies and the emission of power lines. Ferrite is tuned at 62KHZ and the round coil at 58 to 82 via a variable capacitor.
Yesterday i had not time to check it again, maybe today
Regards

Good evening Geo.

You will need the ferrite to set perpendicular nulls between both coils for longitudinal detection. The air loop naturally is more sensitive but alone it's not able to give directivity to detection in the close nearfield area due to figure of eight pattern and multipattern ambiguity when at close range. You need to set both coils as in Alonso's original.

If you also set correctly the LRC balance (important) you should have a behavior of your PD similar to what I got in my video.
Good luck.
Must sleep now.

[detectoman]

geo in theory my pd work;

hello geo, in theory my pd work ok, this detect 1.5 v, spark to 35 cms and ring to 28 ( have one coi ofl 9 cms ) i cant try in field, due my sample buried of gold is very recently, and other lot of coins too recently, and i'm in others experiment whit this pd, for other modifications and for the circuit simplification, and add other things
i put all parts pd whit movement, the adjust of coil rx, too ferrites whit slider, so i can see this is in dual function, i too think, the pd only is direccional whit dual operation, and ferrites have direcction due to natural magnetism horizontal lines
i think so you, only whit pasive reciver' cir.5 and coil this have near field round around omnidirectional whit very imprecise detection
you need directional for easy detection
for medium range you need other circuits suport
best whises
detectoman

Hi. I made the tests that you say before long time (when we was on the RS forum) but without results. Does your PD works as LRL????
Regards

[Geo]

If your PD is constructed so that you can swap over the omega and ferrite coils, then it is not the same as Morgan's PD. So is it any wonder that it does react the same way?

There's no point comparing your results with Hung's video. We have already seen that it is fake.

Hi. I never said that i can compare the results of my PD with Hung's video. I have some random beeps at a place and i want to learn if there is anything. I don't believe that there is not other way (if there is) for LRL except Alonso PD.
Regards

[Geo]

Hi,
yes, I do not understand how the round coil and ferrite could be swapped unless they are different from previous design.

Geo, you wrote that the beeps are from the passive receiver only: I guess that you made two resonant tanks, one with ferrite coil+fixed capacitor, the other with a round coil+a variable capacitor (let you tune from 58 to 82 as I read), that last one is actually an air-core loop antenna + variable cap.

Then you connect one of these at passive receiver, when omega circuit is off.

Is that right ?

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max.
You are right. I work with the round coil and sometimes i unconnect it and i connect the ferrite with fixed capacitor and coil (fixed tuned at 62Khz).
There is not Omega coil.
Regards

[Geo]

Of course you cant get the same results with your PD . You are using completly diferent PD from Alonso !!!

I want to compare my "results" (random beeps) with yours. Of course they are different detectors.

[Geo]

Good evening Geo.

You will need the ferrite to set perpendicular nulls between both coils for longitudinal detection. The air loop naturally is more sensitive but alone it's not able to give directivity to detection in the close nearfield area due to figure of eight pattern and multipattern ambiguity when at close range. You need to set both coils as in Alonso's original.

If you also set correctly the LRC balance (important) you should have a behavior of your PD similar to what I got in my video.
Good luck.
Must sleep now.

Hello Hung.
Thanks for your help about PD, but i am very tired with the Omega coils so i can't try it again . When we was in RS i made a lot o coils and i made a lot of tests so now i can't other. I had not luck, to make it to work.

Regards