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  • Originally posted by Fred View Post
    Hello Hung. Can you test (try) Your PD (tyon) without a gold ring around 10 centimeters (the ground) to hear the sound or no sound (without the gold ring). After(then)test with a gold ring (for sound).
    Please send a new video.

    Regards.

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    • Originally posted by humhum View Post
      Hi Geo, my (62Khz) Ferrite detects the 1.5v spark at 1meter ,but I make some modification in value -parameters.
      very good
      Geo

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      • Originally posted by Geo View Post
        very good
        I don't understand what's that 1.5V spark !

        usually sparks in the air happen at very hi-voltage not 1.5V!

        Or you guys mean that you SHORT an 1.5V battery ?

        Cause if so... it's not so indicative stuff I think cause you must also describe the battery you use...

        The higher the capacity... the higher the peak current for a simple wire you short on its electrodes, then the higher the magnetic pulse you can generate at switchoff.

        Or not ?

        Kind regards,
        Max

        "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
        But we dont need a reason
        "

        someone said...

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        • Max pictures

          Originally posted by Max View Post
          I don't understand what's that 1.5V spark !

          usually sparks in the air happen at very hi-voltage not 1.5V!

          Or you guys mean that you SHORT an 1.5V battery ?

          Cause if so... it's not so indicative stuff I think cause you must also describe the battery you use...

          The higher the capacity... the higher the peak current for a simple wire you short on its electrodes, then the higher the magnetic pulse you can generate at switchoff.

          Or not ?

          Kind regards,
          Max
          Hello Max

          This picture in your avatar is very strange...

          Its Winney the P00 ???

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          • PD

            Originally posted by Geo View Post
            very good
            Hello Geo

            Did you already scan with MD the place where your PD give some buzzer beeps?
            I´m curious.

            Regards

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            • Originally posted by Morgan View Post
              Hello Max

              This picture in your avatar is very strange...

              Its Winney the P00 ???
              I think you need eyeglasses... it's not the POO here... (but maybe you like that POO so much... I don't know ).

              Look here for details:


              Kind regards,
              Max

              "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
              But we dont need a reason
              "

              someone said...

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              • LRL Video from Morgan (in Rapidshare)

                LRL Video from Morgan.

                http://rapidshare.com/files/23717910..._Test.rar.html

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                • Originally posted by Max View Post
                  I don't understand what's that 1.5V spark !

                  usually sparks in the air happen at very hi-voltage not 1.5V!

                  Or you guys mean that you SHORT an 1.5V battery ?

                  Cause if so... it's not so indicative stuff I think cause you must also describe the battery you use...

                  The higher the capacity... the higher the peak current for a simple wire you short on its electrodes, then the higher the magnetic pulse you can generate at switchoff.

                  Or not ?

                  Kind regards,
                  Max
                  Hi Max,
                  We mean the short of the battery.
                  You have right
                  Geo

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                  • Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                    Hello Geo

                    Did you already scan with MD the place where your PD give some buzzer beeps?
                    I´m curious.

                    Regards
                    Hi Max.
                    At the place there are burried a lot of iron objects so it is not easy to clean all of them, so to understand if PD detcts something or no
                    Regards
                    Geo

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                    • Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                      Regardless of the actual location, there are three main objections to your video:

                      1. Despite repeated protesting that LRLs must be tested outside away from any interference, you have demonstrated the PD "working" in your bedroom. Presumably your bed doesn't contain any metal springs, and your house is interference free?

                      2. The first test (no target) is performed at a height greater than the second test with the gold ring. This leads observers to the obvious conclusion that your PD would have responded anyway (regardless of the presence of a target) just by lowering the device.

                      3. A gold ring laying on your bedroom floor would be undetectable at the distance shown, particularly with such a small coil. Remember that this PD is essentially an old modified Heathkit design, which makes your claims even more ridiculous. The so-called LRL part of the design would be inoperative at this distance, according to your previous statements. Also, Morgan does not claim to have the same sensitivity on his own PD, despite having access to the original for comparison.

                      As a result, the video is extremely suspect and cannot be taken at face value.
                      If I had posted a video showing some remarkable (some would say impossible) results, and someone else questioned the genuineness of that video, I would be prompted to reply. Most likely I would also address the objections by creating a second video without the problems noted in the first one.
                      However, your silence Hung is very illuminating.

                      Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                      After viewing the video, I concur with all three of your points for suspicion. However, the most troublesome of the three would be number 2., since the height above "floor" level was definitely less than when the background-no-target test was performed.

                      The test results may have been more believable if the "device" were fixed at a certain location, either vertical or horizontal and the target passed in front of it.

                      Kind of reminds me of an experiment I did many years ago with a standard BFO detector. It was tuned to an EXTREMELY low beat frequency, about one tick per second, and (in the air) we could discern a slight frequency change when targets were waved in front of the coil at about 36 to 40 inches. That depth was not usable in practice, but it made an interesting experiment on the bench.
                      Yes - and the second video should be conducted in the manner shown above - in bold.

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                      • Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                        If I had posted a video showing some remarkable (some would say impossible) results, and someone else questioned the genuineness of that video, I would be prompted to reply. Most likely I would also address the objections by creating a second video without the problems noted in the first one.
                        However, your silence Hung is very illuminating.


                        Yes - and the second video should be conducted in the manner shown above - in bold.
                        What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

                        No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.

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                        • Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                          What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

                          No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.
                          yes, there are some questions that bring a deafening silence. No intempestive beeping here

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                          • Originally posted by Qiaozhi
                            However, your silence Hung is very illuminating.

                            Yes - and the second video should be conducted in the manner shown above - in bold. What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

                            No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.
                            What?
                            hung can't answer questions about why his LRL was able to detect gold inside his home full of interfering metal and AC power, after all the talk about how it must be tested outside away from electrical power and other metals?

                            Hmmmm...
                            I wonder how it got a good signal from gold with all the interfering metal and power inside?
                            This isn't another one of hung's stunts where he didn't really test it at all, is it? Do you suppose he had an assistant hiding out of view of the camera making the beep sounds to prove he has a working LRL?

                            I wonder why he won't test it outside away from interference?

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P

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                            • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                              What?
                              hung can't answer questions about why his LRL was able to detect gold inside his home full of interfering metal and AC power, after all the talk about how it must be tested outside away from electrical power and other metals?

                              Hmmmm...
                              I wonder how it got a good signal from gold with all the interfering metal and power inside?
                              This isn't another one of hung's stunts where he didn't really test it at all, is it? Do you suppose he had an assistant hiding out of view of the camera making the beep sounds to prove he has a working LRL?

                              I wonder why he won't test it outside away from interference?

                              Best wishes,
                              J_P
                              This reminds me of another video I watched recently called "Fools Gold" (an action-comedy hybrid) and rather an apt title in this case, you might say. In the film they are using a PI for some underwater searches. The beeping of the detector was clearly dubbed on afterwards, and the detection distance for the cannon was just unbelievable.

                              In the video we are discussing here, I suspect that the beeping would have occurred in the first test, if it had been lowered to the same position as it was in the second test. In other words, it probably was not dubbed on afterwards or produced by an external beeper.

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                              • Finally i went to the house from a friend and made another test. He has 2 silver coins in the ground at 30...40 cm, 18 years ago. With pcb5 and ferrite i did not took any signal. With round coil (this time with 11cm coil) i took signal but random. When i was 1... 2m near the coins i had some random beeps so it was impossible to pinpoint them. I don't know what happening other day and time, but these time my detector was not useful because with a metal detector i should made the same and better work.

                                But exists the phenomenon. Who phenomenon......
                                I don't know
                                Regards
                                Geo

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