Mineoro Tyon

[Qiaozhi]

Could this new unit take carl's GOLD?

It's not a new unit.
Some unfortunate people spent good money on the ICONOS, but when they tried to get their money back, the ICONOS folks had mysteriously vanished.
As you can see from the name - there is a "CON" in ICONOS.

Hmmm... or perhaps you referring the Mineoro Tyon?
Either way - no chance!

[Fred]

You're right! I forgot which forum I was in. .

Actually i jumped from ...ivconic thread to this one.

This ionic idea is touted as a scientific truth, when in fact it is complete nonsense.

At what point does it becomes a complete nonsense? underground ion migration seems possible, then it aparently stops 10cm below ground ...so how sure can we be that ions below ground don´t influence ,say, the magnetic field above ground ,or thet they create some "ionic mirror effect" ?

[Carl-NC]

In preliminary tests, he told me the device picks ... the gold plate from 2 meters. It’s much more sensitive than the FG80 and also more stable.

Is this "gold plate" the sample included with the unit, like I got with my FG-80? If so, then any ability to detect this plate makes it better than the FG-80, which doesn't detect it at all. I can see the ad now: "Infinitely more sensitive than the FG-80!" Which would also be true of a Radio Shack BFO.

I'll wait for the Missouri Analysis, which I strongly suspect will never ever happen.

- Carl

[Geo]

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I´m thinking how many grames of gold,the ICONOS as inside...

Maybe after few days i will try to open it and i will say what is inside

[Steve in MS]

Sooo, these detectors depend upon an "ionic trail" that can be picked up, right? What about gold that is not too far underground, freshly buried, they should pick this up with no problem, right, if they can detect long range underground on long lost treasures?
If so a documented experiment could be performed to show their usefulness,
right? Or are we going to forever told that only certain conditions they will work?
My guess is these LRL's can't be subjected to any kind of logic at all
!
Sorry, I just couldn't resist this line of reasoning!

[Clondike Clad]

The lurker

It's not a new unit.
Some unfortunate people spent good money on the ICONOS, but when they tried to get their money back, the ICONOS folks had mysteriously vanished.
As you can see from the name - there is a "CON" in ICONOS.

Hmmm... or perhaps you referring the Mineoro Tyon?
Either way - no chance!

Yes I was thinking about the new box Hung was talking about the Mineoro Tyon can detect a ring at one meter.
Any detector that can pick up a ring at 1 meter or over 36 inch is ready to take $25000 from Carl or better yet go for the million.
I want one after that happens

[hung]

Yes I was thinking about the new box Hung was talking about the Mineoro Tyon can detect a ring at one meter.
Any detector that can pick up a ring at 1 meter or over 36 inch is ready to take $25000 from Carl or better yet go for the million.
I want one after that happens

Let me clear up some few things here:

1 - The LRL system my team and I developed has nothing to do with RT Examiner except that it features one aspect of T-R detection. It has no calculator, small box or swivel. It's a totally electronic device, relatively big and comprises of two parts. It's not an ionic/electrostatic device and it has much more range than those devices. We are soon going for a new phase with soil imaging visualizations ahead of GPR tehcnology which I hope to happen next year. Not because of technical dificulties, but simply due to lack of time. The 'brains' in our team is the most busy person in the world.

2 - The Tyon needs more testing and as soon as I have time I will try to conduct them. I have my team spread all over Brazil for prospections and right now I have only cell phone comunication with the person who is using it.
Prior to Tyon, we had to meet certain weather and ionic conditions to achieve gold detection. It seems the Tyon is easier to use and deals better with high humidity and less than 20% of ionic emissions.
I'm also developing a new ionic/electrostatic device based on PDC/FG80 that I hope to be even better than the Tyon itself and any detector of this kind to date.

3 - I have never been and never will be obsecessed with Carl's challenge or whatever one which might appear.
I always told here this is balloney and just a marketing trick to promote himself. I don't need this challenge or anybody's and will not waste my time with those nonsenses.


PS. The RT Examiner with calculator glued just like it is now works. I always told that. Before I see one, I thought it would not work. When I saw it did, I studied it. And I learned.
The only thing is that the swivel part might raise discussions if the movement is done by hand, mind, wind, sprits, etc. But the weak magnetic force is there and the scientific explanation in RT's site is mostly correct.
What amazes me most is that some figures here who claim themselves to be 'technical' just can't understand what is happening in the RT's case and doom themselves to remain in the dark dign of middle age thinkings.

[Esteban]

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I´m thinking how many grames of gold,the ICONOS as inside...

You no need much gold. 0.5 gram is OK.

[Qiaozhi]

I have never been and never will be obsecessed with Carl's challenge or whatever one which might appear.
I always told here this is balloney and just a marketing trick to promote himself. I don't need this challenge or anybody's and will not waste my time with those nonsenses.

The only reason you have no interest in either Carl's or Randi's challenge is because you have no chance of success. Your LRL simply does not function when subjected to double-blind testing. Anyone with even a modicum of scientific knowledge would then conclude that it's a trick of the mind. Hopefully one day you will remove the blinkers and return to doing something more productive.

PS. The RT Examiner with calculator glued just like it is now works. I always told that. Before I see one, I thought it would not work. When I saw it did, I studied it. And I learned.

Actually, you learned nothing. You may have studied the RT Examiner, but your blinkered approach has blinded you to the obvious. The RT is a piece of junk, except for the calculator, which could be removed and put to a more practical use.

The only thing is that the swivel part might raise discussions if the movement is done by hand, mind, wind, sprits, etc. But the weak magnetic force is there and the scientific explanation in RT's site is mostly correct.

There is no scientific explanation on the RT's site that makes any sense. I think you meant to say "pseudo-scientific" explanation.

What amazes me most is that some figures here who claim themselves to be 'technical' just can't understand what is happening in the RT's case and doom themselves to remain in the dark dign of middle age thinkings.

In fact, we understand only too well what is happening in the RT's case. You don't even have to be "technical" to see that it's a scam.

[Carl-NC]

The LRL system my team and I developed has nothing to do with RT Examiner except that it features one aspect of T-R detection.

Are you pretending that the RT Examiner utilizes T-R detection?

I have never been and never will be obsecessed with Carl's challenge or whatever one which might appear. I always told here this is balloney and just a marketing trick to promote himself.

Why would I need to "promote" myself? With LRLs, all I'm saying is, "Show Me." It's a scandalous concept.

- Carl

[Theseus]

Let me clear up some few things here:

1 - The LRL system my team and I developed has nothing to do with RT Examiner except that it features one aspect of T-R detection.

The RT Examiner does not feature any sort of T-R detection. If you are claiming even a subtle similarity to the RT Examiner, your device is doomed to failure. The current RT Examiner, as well as the most early versions, are all junk; in as much as there is nothing technical or electronic going on between the rod, the operator or the sought after target. All RT Examiners are strictly swivel-handle dowsing rods, and their only reaction is to gravity once they are tilted out of balance by the operator's hand.

[putrechigi]

hi at hall

The only reason you have no interest in either Carl's or Randi's challenge is because you have no chance of success. Your LRL simply does not function when subjected to double-blind testing. Anyone with even a modicum of scientific knowledge would then conclude that it's a trick of the mind. Hopefully one day you will remove the blinkers and return to doing something more productive.


Actually, you learned nothing. You may have studied the RT Examiner, but your blinkered approach has blinded you to the obvious. The RT is a piece of junk, except for the calculator, which could be removed and put to a more practical use.


There is no scientific explanation on the RT's site that makes any sense. I think you meant to say "pseudo-scientific" explanation.


In fact, we understand only too well what is happening in the RT's case. You don't even have to be "technical" to see that it's a scam.

hi Qiaozhi afther to find this document http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ad.php?t=13849 i think the lrl work but why the mineoro don,t work in europe? why not work in nord emisphere? is possible that alonso not solve this problem? because in europe he have many possible buyers , is possible tyon solve thi probleme and work in europe too?

best reguards putre

[Qiaozhi]

hi Qiaozhi afther to find this document http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ad.php?t=13849 i think the lrl work but why the mineoro don,t work in europe? why not work in nord emisphere? is possible that alonso not solve this problem? because in europe he have many possible buyers , is possible tyon solve thi probleme and work in europe too?

best reguards putre

Hi putrechigi,

Don't waste your time or money on these devices. None of them work. It is pure fantasy.

[putrechigi]

hi qiaozhi

Hi putrechigi,

Don't waste your time or money on these devices. None of them work. It is pure fantasy.

I respect your thoughts, but do not agree, many person pass long long time for try this and i don't know why they should invent all this
no profit , no more, is for this that i belive in they, when i came in italy i hope to see one lrl that work

best reguards at hall
putre

[putrechigi]

hi

hi hung, hi esteban, Perhaps you can kindly answer my questions? i want to really know why they d'ont work in europe , why morgan pay alot of money for noting
thank you very much

best reguards at hall