IONIZATION CHAMBERS

[Esteban]

I have this schematic.

[Esteban]

I translate the bad copy I have by this. Hope is OK. I presume the above part is a regulator. Here the clear:

[Max]

I have this schematic.

Hi,
what's the purpose of a ionization chamber in remote sensing ?

These are good to reveal ionizating radiations... but I know that gold (unless there's a radioactive isothope of it around) doesn't emit such radiations.

You can look for gamma-ray and similar stuff using it, but not really for the purpose of searching long time buried gold !

So what's the point about that schematic of above ? Why you published it here ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi,
what's the purpose of a ionization chamber in remote sensing ?

These are good to reveal ionizating radiations... but I know that gold (unless there's a radioactive isothope of it around) doesn't emit such radiations.

You can look for gamma-ray and similar stuff using it, but not really for the purpose of searching long time buried gold !

So what's the point about that schematic of above ? Why you published it here ?

Kind regards,
Max

Remember, there are persons that claims the existence of a kind of ionization around treasures. But if isn't exists, no problem, because this device can detect the field around this good conductive metals buried for long time.

[Esteban]

This can be the chamber.

[Max]

This can be the chamber.

The deodorant tube ??? NO!

You need a VERY thin wall to make radiations enter the chamber... so better is if you e.g. use a thin aluminium foil window in front side of the tube.

The rest you could made of any conductive material, but much better if the back side is shielded with lead 1mm walls. That way your chanber will be "directional" and (supposing it's useful) you could locate the source of radiations.

A good experiment is with lantern mantle (torium/radium doped) and old fluorescent tags (like old german ones...).

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

The deodorant tube ??? NO!

You need a VERY thin wall to make radiations enter the chamber... so better is if you e.g. use a thin aluminium foil window in front side of the tube.

The rest you could made of any conductive material, but much better if the back side is shielded with lead 1mm walls. That way your chanber will be "directional" and (supposing it's useful) you could locate the source of radiations.

A good experiment is with lantern mantle (torium/radium doped) and old fluorescent tags (like old german ones...).

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max

Thanks very much! Maybe this can be approximative...

[Carl-NC]

As it's drawn, the circuit won't work... the +rail is shorted to ground. But if it did work, it would just be an electric field detector. Which could possibly detect the electric field from ions, but also any other electric field, leaving you with no way of knowing what you are detecting. And if it is due to ions, it tells you nothing about what kind of ions which, again, is rather useless.

Thin-walled chambers are used in radiation detectors, but detecting ions is not the same as detecting radiation. Remember that ions are atoms or molecules, not radiation, and can't pass through solid objects (like the Mineoro "ion chamber" ). A popular method of ion detection involves drift tubes, which must be open to allow ions to enter.

- Carl

[hung]

Remember that ions are atoms or molecules, not radiation, and can't pass through solid objects (like the Mineoro "ion chamber" ).
- Carl

Almost in the dawn of 2009 and you still can't figure how the Mineoro's ionic chamber work.

I rest my case.

[Clondike Clad]

As it's drawn, the circuit won't work... the +rail is shorted to ground. But if it did work, it would just be an electric field detector. Which could possibly detect the electric field from ions, but also any other electric field, leaving you with no way of knowing what you are detecting. And if it is due to ions, it tells you nothing about what kind of ions which, again, is rather useless.

Thin-walled chambers are used in radiation detectors, but detecting ions is not the same as detecting radiation. Remember that ions are atoms or molecules, not radiation, and can't pass through solid objects (like the Mineoro "ion chamber" ). A popular method of ion detection involves drift tubes, which must be open to allow ions to enter.

- Carl

I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS WILL NOT WORK AND YES CARL IS RIGHT ON THIS ONE.

[Clondike Clad]

IONIC

Almost in the dawn of 2009 and you still can't figure how the Mineoro's ionic chamber work.

I rest my case.

Ok Hung I don't know BUT CAN YOU TELL ME HOW IT WORKS.
IF CARL CAN'T GET IT MAYBE I CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
I MAY BE ABLE TO SHOW CARL HOW IT WORKS.
TELL ME IN YOUR WORDS ON HOW THIS THING WORKS.

[Fred]

I think schematic should be like this:

[Esteban]

I think schematic should be like this:

I think you're right. Above part must be oscillator.

[Esteban]

The same, but mos oscillator version. Copy of bad pic is the second image.

[Qiaozhi]

Almost in the dawn of 2009 and you still can't figure how the Mineoro's ionic chamber work.

I rest my case.

Define what you mean by work.