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No-one machine can be good without right. Frequency. So the main question is what is the right frequency
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frequencies for gold
If you go to the gold prospecting forums, the people who are actually finding gold are doing it with the following frequencies (all in kHz) 13, 14, 17.8, 19.2, 48, and 71. Using machines that I designed. My overall preference is 19.2, but the others also work. No alibi mysteries like the phase of the moon or k-indexes or tinfoil hat being worn wrong.
--Dave J.Comment
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yes, i ll try them, but the question is are they react only at gold or you ll have to dig holes and holes. No matter which frequency is i bealive that there is resonant frequency at elements and thair harmonics. So if we say that 5 KHz is RF at gold we ll have the same esults and at 2,5 and 10 and 15 KHz. Im speaking for refined gold, not for nudgetsComment
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Things that are real don't care what you believe about them. Fantasy based "detectors" yield only fantasy gold. For many people, that's the best kind. The neat thing about fantasy is that it can be anything you want, which accounts for its popularity. Things that are real impose real limitations, it's understandable why people hold a grudge against reality.Originally posted by kaligula View Post
Metal detectors designed for gold prospecting detect all metals, not just gold. They'll also detect refined gold. The units that have discrimination are capable of knocking out most iron metal, but will lose most small gold in the process.
Gold detection apparatus that actually works doesn't have anything to do with the fictional "resonant frequencies" you see discussed so fruitlessly on LRL forums. For actually finding real gold, there are frequencies that everyone knowledgeable in real gold prospecting can agree on.
No such thing can happen with LRL's because for fantasy gold one frequency is just as good as another. And because it's all about fantasy, there is no "right" LRL frequency that will be of any help in making the damn thing useful for finding real gold. It's like medieval theologians debating over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin-- in fantasy, it's any number you want, and in the real world nobody's ever demo'd an angel dancing on the head of a pin or for that matter even on a bishop's throne.
--Dave J.Comment
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I really cant understand you but with that what you are saing that there is no real resonant frequency for gold, and of course other elements you are demanting this forum. YOu said alone that you are selling machines - LRL what are working at as you say ;;fantasy gold frequency;;. The list of frequencies what you give to me i ll try it but i think that ::JUST GOLD;; you cant find at two diferent frequencies if thay are not harmonic, and 13 KHz and 14 KHZ cant be harmonic frequencis.
Metal detectors are other think and there is no need here for discusion about them.Comment
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If you want harmonic based detection, I've done those too-- the Fisher CZ's and the analog circuit part of the White's DFX. Both will detect gold but they're not very good at it.
If you want to detect a gold item at long range, use binoculars, not an LRL. Of course the gold item has to be on the surface.
At the atomic level, atoms have identifiable "frequencies", particularly precession frequencies which depend on relaxation from a very strong imposed magnetic field. This is the basis of proton precession magnetometry which is real, not fantasy. It has nothing to do with LRL's other than providing a convenient mystery word to boggle the imagination of technically clueless gullibillies.
There is no gadget available at any price anywhere, that will through physical means lead you to an otherwise unknown gold object buried at a distance. That really sucks, doesn't it??!!! As long as there are people who insist that such a gadget should exist and demand that therefore it must exist, there will be others willing to invite buyers to pay for fraudulent equipment for the privilege of fullfilling fantasies. And, since it was all about demanding that fantasies be "true" in the first place, many of the victims of the fraud are quite happy with what was done to them!
How happy? One of the most common kinds of LRL story they post goes like this: "I located a gold treasure buried ....... 10 meters deep so I wasn't able to dig it...... located on a military reservation so I wasn't allowed to actually go there....... I got close and then the signal disappeared....... there was nothing there, so someone else must have dug it up and all I detected was its ghost image...... etc., etc., etc." This is how they themselves report having had resounding success "finding" huge caches of gold without ever having produced any evidence of real gold, and they're happy as clams! I don't have to make this up, they're the ones who actually demonstrate what kinds of customers LRL's are specifically targeted to, and why the customers are happy even though the apparatus itself does nothing relating to detecting gold at a distance. The apparatus was purchased for fantasy and it supports the fantasy for which it was purchased, and in that sense selling it to that particular customer wasn't even fraud.
--Dave J.Comment
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Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
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There's a reason, but it's a trade secret. It doesn't have anything to do with gold per se, the gold wouldn't care.
--Dave J.Comment
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little refresh, translate it from macedonian to english
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we dont have same opinion with you, so im still working on my proekts, im not bying any devices, im constructing them myself, so if i find something sometimes i ll tell you. But i still bealive this is not fantasy forum.
Its true that the industry in this business have the biggest benefit with solding the ,, machines that are working''
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He told you that everyone frequency is the same, no matter witchoneOriginally posted by WM6 View PostComment
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Originally posted by Dave J. View PostThe frequencies Dave J. has listed are used in real conventional metal detectors, not LRLs. Dave does not design or sell LRLs.Originally posted by kaligula View Post
The bottom line is that you can use any frequency you like. It really doesn't matter, as long as you believe it will work. I would suggest experimenting with 65kHz (give or take 10kHz) as this is popular with pistol detector builders.Comment
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I could design and sell LRL's, George, but by choice I prefer not to. If I didn't have a real job and was facing starvation, maybe I'd choose to get into the LRL business after all.
--Dave J.Comment
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I didn't meant gold related, but circuit physics related, OK, thanks Dave, I understand.Originally posted by Dave J. View Post
Is this 19.2kHz related to digital design of prospecting machine only, or to analog devices too?Global capital is ruining your life?
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The original 1980's Gold Bug was all-analog, the new GB's have a microprocessor. Both run at 19.2 kHz for somewhat similar (undisclosed) reasons.
Since it's a thoroughly proven frequency for gold, it ought to work for LRL'ing at least as well as any other frequency a person might fancy-- provided that it doesn't interfere with your metal detector.
--Dave J.Comment
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