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P.S. -- Dell, is that endorsement by "C.C., KY" the infamous Claude Cochran? That's like having Charles Ponzi endorse a financial investment plan!

Well, then I must say that what you and other skeptics here have to say about MFD is like revisiting Thomas Edison's statements that the only purpose of AC was to kill cats...

Now seriously, this is now directed to the general reader and researcher who is interested to further evolve his/her studies, as this forum is not and will never be the right place for gathering info on this.

If you are interested in learning about Dowsing, visit the Dowsing section in the TNET forum or any Dowsing forum and go direct to the source talking to real dowsers, their vast experience and their achievements.
You also will have a good basis to understand how MFD works.

You will hint on why Carl's Geotech forum has no Dowsing section and also why dowsers don't bother to post here about the subject.
Of course Carl will say that his forum is scientifically oriented and does not include 'bogus' subjects, and blah, blah, blah...

Oh, well...

[Morgan]

Russian Biolokation(Dowsing Rods)

áñâ ðæâàâ äëâä æ

If Dowsing devices are sold more honest prices,nobody complains...
But this prices practice in America are ridiculous,and of course people complains its snake oil !!!

[Morgan]

Biolokation

áñâ ðæâàâ äëâä æ

If Dowsing devices are sold more honest prices,nobody complains...
But this prices practice in America are ridiculous,and of course people complains its snake oil !!!

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[Qiaozhi]

Well, then I must say that what you and other skeptics here have to say about MFD is like revisiting Thomas Edison's statements that the only purpose of AC was to kill cats...

Thomas Edison's statement was made for commercial reasons, rather than scientific. He had a vested interest in promoting DC as the preferred solution. Although you could say that the same situation is true for Dell. i.e. there is a vested interest.

Now seriously, this is now directed to the general reader and researcher who is interested to further evolve his/her studies, as this forum is not and will never be the right place for gathering info on this.

You are incorrect in your assumption. The Geotech Remote Sensing Forum is the only place where the nonsense of dowsing, and associated bogus devices, is revealed in it's true glory.

If you are interested in learning about Dowsing, visit the Dowsing section in the TNET forum or any Dowsing forum and go direct to the source talking to real dowsers, their vast experience and their achievements.
You also will have a good basis to understand how MFD works.

We are completely aware of how dowsing and so-called MFD devices "work". It is a trick of the mind.

You will hint on why Carl's Geotech forum has no Dowsing section and also why dowsers don't bother to post here about the subject.
Of course Carl will say that his forum is scientifically oriented and does not include 'bogus' subjects, and blah, blah, blah...

Oh, well...

Of course they don't post here. This is a skeptics' forum, and it's much easier to go and bury your head in the sand somewhere else that is dowser-friendly.

[Theseus]

Well, then I must say that what you and other skeptics here have to say about MFD is like revisiting Thomas Edison's statements that the only purpose of AC was to kill cats...

Give me a break! T. Edison stood to gain nothing if AC won out over DC, and that's why he made a valiant (but unsuccessful) attempt to kill the idea of AC for power distribution.

If you are interested in learning about Dowsing, visit the Dowsing section in the TNET forum...

What a laugh. The TNET dowsing forum is all but dead, as a result of over-moderation on the part of Jeff of PA. If all you want to read about are nonsense book reviews by Mike H., and anecdotal dowsing accounts by Art F., then yes; visit the TNET forum. Oh yes, Dell advertises on that forum too.

If you want to be exposed to both sides of the dowsing debate/discussion, then this is the only place on the Internet where you can obtain a fair and balanced viewpoint.

[Dell Winders]

[QUOTE]Of course they don't post here. This is a skeptics' forum, and it's much easier to go and bury your head in the sand somewhere else that is dowser-friendly./QUOTE]

You're funny! Do I look like I'm burying my head in the sand? At least I give my real name, and phone number. I don't hide behind phony aliases, fake IP's, and pretend I'm a Scientist. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

You're funny! Do I look like I'm burying my head in the sand? At least I give my real name, and phone number. I don't hide behind phony aliases, fake IP's, and pretend I'm a Scientist. Dell

By using the term "burying your head in the sand" I was referring to the proponents of dowsing and MFDs continued denial of the truth. Not the fact that you use someone else's image as your avatar.

[Clondike Clad]

Dell why don't you show your detector working?

[quote=Dell Winders;84315]

Of course they don't post here. This is a skeptics' forum, and it's much easier to go and bury your head in the sand somewhere else that is dowser-friendly./QUOTE]

You're funny! Do I look like I'm burying my head in the sand? At least I give my real name, and phone number. I don't hide behind phony aliases, fake IP's, and pretend I'm a Scientist. Dell

go for Carl's 25k or the one mill. Dell this way you can show carl and us by taking his money.

Dell anyone can post FAKE ON THE NET(SNAKE OIL CRAP)bUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHOW THAT YOUR STUFF WORKS.

[Carl-NC]

Now seriously, this is now directed to the general reader and researcher who is interested to further evolve his/her studies, as this forum is not and will never be the right place for gathering info on this.

Depends... if you are interested in the technical merits of remote sensing techniques -- even including LRLs and dowsing -- then this is a Good Place to get that information.

If you are interested in fantasy discussions about devices and methods that only produce a realm of make-believe that gives you the feeling of doing something extraordinary and pretending to be a Big-Time Treasure Hunter, then there are better places for that.

If you are interested in learning about Dowsing, visit the Dowsing section in the TNET forum or any Dowsing forum and go direct to the source talking to real dowsers, their vast experience and their achievements.
You also will have a good basis to understand how MFD works.

I agree, understand dowsing, and you will understand MFD.

You will hint on why Carl's Geotech forum has no Dowsing section and also why dowsers don't bother to post here about the subject.
Of course Carl will say that his forum is scientifically oriented and does not include 'bogus' subjects, and blah, blah, blah...

From an LRL perspective, the Remote Sensing forum has turned out to be what I hoped it would be. I had hoped that people would question the "scientific" claims of LRL proponents & manufacturers, investigate the methods used, and explore other potential methods. That's exactly what has happened. Technically competent people have proposed, built, and tested devices and shared their results. I have yet to see a useful method come out of all this, but disproving bogus methods is useful in itself.

- Carl

[Carl-NC]

I don't hide behind phony aliases, fake IP's, and pretend I'm a Scientist.

No, but you dishonestly claim scientific support for your bogus devices.

[hung]

I had hoped that people would question the "scientific" claims of LRL proponents & manufacturers, investigate the methods used, and explore other potential methods. That's exactly what has happened. Technically competent people have proposed, built, and tested devices and shared their results.

As I belong to the 'LRL Tribe', I pocess 'data' that you don't.
For instance, I'm aware that there are several and several sucessful LRL users right now retrieving the goods and they swear by their devices. You can assure yourself about this. And you still hope they come here to show what they got?

C'mon Carl!

I have yet to see a useful method come out of all this, but disproving bogus methods is useful in itself.

You bet! Too dangerous for individuals like yourself get their hands in stuff like that.
So yes,I agree. LRLs are bogus...
Regards.

[Dell Winders]

No, but you dishonestly claim scientific support for your bogus devices.

Carl, You are ridicously wrong again.
Of course, your lieing about me is habitual so I know you can't help it, and it's too late for you to change course without repercussions. Yet, I try to have compassion for your predicament. Dell

[Carl-NC]

Carl, You are ridicously wrong again.

John Baumgardner says I'm right.

[Dell Winders]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Carl, You are ridicously wrong again.

John Baumgardner says I'm right.

Whatever that means Carl? You certainly don't allow facts, or truth get in your way.

If you are referring to the comment I quoted from J.B. I can assure you that his comment is quoted accurately word for word, and in the proper context. I have the video to prove it.

However he is not the Scientist, that has provided me support. I have never met, or talked with J.B. I have apologized for any erroneous inference that he was ever a customer. He was not.

It is my understanding he built his own Frequency Generator from a Heathkit, and independently conducted his own MFD survey of the purported Noah's Ark, archaeological site.

The bottom line, is I started this thread to show that my products are used World wide, and some customers have publicly reported their results, which I am showing, as they have been reported in letters, and video's to me.

I certainly was not the one who brought up the subject of my MFD being used on Turkey's, proclaimed Nuh'n Gemisi site, but it's true, and for some reason there seems to be a bizare interest in it here?

To satisfy your interest, I can truthfully say my products are indeed being used by customers in Turkey, and not a single pull tab has been reported to have been found with my products. Dell

[Steve in MS]

So, by your stating your products don't pick up pulltabs, do they signal on gold rings? Are they selective in discriminating all alum?
If this is the case, you have very unique products since there are no portable devices (other than yours) that can do such a feat.
By all means, go into more detail about the pulltabs.