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  • #31
    Originally posted by hung View Post
    Sorry, I meant the target was found 4 feet away from where he had previously estimated with the RT.
    No where near then?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
      No where near then?
      You seem to have a hard time understanding things right don't you?

      The distance was estimated entering the parameters for distance in the examiner from miles away!!

      He traced the line on a map and drove to the place.
      "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hung View Post
        The old RT frequencies (more than 3 years old) had problems, but I believe the new ones are way better. Being a customer you can get the upgraded frequencies from them.
        Whatever numbers you type into the calculator makes no difference. It's all in your mind.

        Originally posted by hung View Post
        I use my own researched frequencies but these I can't release sorry. They are also used in our powerful LRL System.
        However I already tested RT's new ones with sucess.
        Ahhh ... the secret frequencies!
        More pseudo-scientific claptrap.

        Originally posted by hung View Post
        There's a simple test I have done that proved the device was calibrated and working fine that you could also perform. This worked for me, so this should also work for you.

        Randomly enter a local FM station frequency in the calculator (millions of hertz) that you don't know where it's located. Do this say 3 times with 3 different stations.
        Enter your particular routine (if any) that you use to detect an ordinary target. Adjust the knob for best swing of the antenna. Use always your right hand. I'm left handed and if I use it in my left hand the antenna turns sluggish or simply don't move. I learned to use it in my right hand, and today is so natural and automatic.

        The examiner antenna will align to the direction of those FM station antennas and you can confirm later if the directions were correct.
        I did this test and it worked fine. In my case, there are 2 stations which I later confirmed that are located in the same line span, being one to the right and the other to the left. The examiner clearly pointed and distinguished both of them.

        For this test, you don't need samples that you know where they are placed and also you don't need to go in the field to locate something buried that you could have a hard time to pinpoint it.
        This simple test will show you the examiner concept working.

        This test worked for me. I hope it works for you.

        Best regards.
        This only proves that the ideomotor effect is so compelling that you need to use double-blind testing to avoid self deception. Your refusal to even run a double-blind test shows how close-minded you've become with regard to dowsing and LRLs. You would rather live in ignorance, than to know the truth.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hung View Post
          You seem to have a hard time understanding things right don't you?

          The distance was estimated entering the parameters for distance in the examiner from miles away!!

          He traced the line on a map and drove to the place.
          What poppycock!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by hung View Post
            ...The old RT frequencies (more than 3 years old) had problems, but I believe the new ones are way better.
            Old frequencies??? C'mon Hung, give me a break. We both know the numbers you plug into the calculator are not influencing the operation of the RT dowsing rod one iota. Hence, you can get the exact same results with the old frequencies, or the new frequencies, or no frequencies. Entering frequency numbers is merely a trick of the mind ---sold to you as part of the scam RT Examiner.

            I especially like your statement; the new ones are way better (than the old ones). Now that's a very precise measurement, if I ever heard one.

            By "way better" do you mean the old frequencies would cause a location to be off by 2000 miles and now with the new ones, the location is only off by 500 miles????

            What a load of crap.

            I certainly hope you got your RT Examiner for FREE in return for "hawking" it on the various forums.

            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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            • #36
              Sam now that you have labeled me a scammer in the above post, I guess the Arc-Geo logger and GCG are scam units too right? I saved your post and all the posts from google along with emails for future use proving you are Sam. I have people calling and asking if the Arc-Geo loggers really work because they read post from you.

              You have claimed I am a scammer and that means everything I sell is junk. I'm sure you are still in Marshalltown correct. It would be best Carl if you distance yourself from Sam. Carl I will see you at the show.

              Tim
              Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by hung View Post
                What makes an ordinary compass swing?
                What make an ordinary compass swing is the earth megnetic field.
                So,what make the RT swing ?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Fred View Post
                  What make an ordinary compass swing is the earth megnetic field.
                  So,what make the RT swing ?
                  That's right, Fred, the compass needle is a tiny magnet (itself) and it merely obeys the laws of magnetic attraction (to the strongest magnetic field in close proximity) and hence aligns itself with the geomagnetic field. It does that of course, unless there is a stronger magnetic field in the area of the compass needle, and then it will align with the stronger field.

                  If you recall, it has been theorized that Flight 19, TBM Avenger torpedo bombers which disappeared on December 5, 1945, may have been due to some strange magnetic anomalies in the Bermuda Triangle. These anomalies are thought to have caused errors in their compass readings, and thus caused the aircraft to fly further out to sea instead of back to the Florida coast.

                  As to what makes the RT Examiner swing? That's an easy one. First an ideomotor response happens and then the operator tilts his hand ever so slightly, causing the RT dowsing rod to swing one way or another. Or, as Vincent Blanes displays on his site, he can also force it to spin in circles.


                  The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                  Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hung View Post
                    What do you mean by 'still can't get it to do anything'?
                    You mean the antenna does not move in your case or you still could not find anything with it?
                    Please detail.

                    The old RT frequencies (more than 3 years old) had problems, but I believe the new ones are way better. Being a customer you can get the upgraded frequencies from them.
                    I use my own researched frequencies but these I can't release sorry. They are also used in our powerful LRL System.
                    However I already tested RT's new ones with sucess.

                    There's a simple test I have done that proved the device was calibrated and working fine that you could also perform. This worked for me, so this should also work for you.

                    Randomly enter a local FM station frequency in the calculator (millions of hertz) that you don't know where it's located. Do this say 3 times with 3 different stations.
                    Enter your particular routine (if any) that you use to detect an ordinary target. Adjust the knob for best swing of the antenna. Use always your right hand. I'm left handed and if I use it in my left hand the antenna turns sluggish or simply don't move. I learned to use it in my right hand, and today is so natural and automatic.

                    The examiner antenna will align to the direction of those FM station antennas and you can confirm later if the directions were correct.
                    I did this test and it worked fine. In my case, there are 2 stations which I later confirmed that are located in the same line span, being one to the right and the other to the left. The examiner clearly pointed and distinguished both of them.

                    For this test, you don't need samples that you know where they are placed and also you don't need to go in the field to locate something buried that you could have a hard time to pinpoint it.
                    This simple test will show you the examiner concept working.

                    This test worked for me. I hope it works for you.

                    Best regards.
                    I did input 92,300,000 and also 92.3 but it did not do anything.
                    I also mounted thr thing and still nota????????????????????????
                    I must hace one of the bad units?????????????????????????????
                    I may sent this to Carl and have him look at it.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Clondike Clad View Post
                      I did input 92,300,000 and also 92.3 but it did not do anything.
                      I also mounted thr thing and still nota????????????????????????
                      I must hace one of the bad units?????????????????????????????
                      Yes, if your FM station frequency is 92.3MHz, then you should enter 92300000.

                      So the antenna did not move?
                      Clondike, since you own the examiner, have your antenna moved to any target at least once?

                      If not, then there's something completely abnormal going on. Either the unit is severely deffective inside with broken wires, components, etc... or you are holding it in a way that is causing some blocking to the swing. Did you try walking with it leaving the antenna frictionless?

                      The examiner is so easy to hold and feel 'the pull' of the antenna that the last possibility above is the least likely one in my view.

                      I told there are some friends of mine who just cannot make it work.
                      So in order to know if the unit is deffective or not, I would perform some tests having other people holding it also. If they all fail, then the unit is deffective indeed.
                      In this case I would contact Rangertell to have them mail you another unit, and I'm sure they would do it.

                      The first unit that the dowser I told about received, also had problems and he could not make it to work. Then he had RT sending him another unit. This unit felt completely different then the previous one like day and night as he told me. So there's a good chance your unit may be somehow deffective.

                      Please, let me know the results with other people holding your device.


                      I may sent this to Carl and have him look at it.
                      What for? Makes no sense. If needed, require another one directly from RT. Easy as that.

                      Best regards.
                      "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                      • #41
                        How About?

                        So Hung if a person were to mount and level an R/T on say a camera tripod in a location that would be far removed from buildings, power lines or other man made interference producing items, but within range of a number of FM radio transmitters. Would the R/T still turn to indicate the direction of the antenna transmitting on the frequency entered in the calculator? If it truly is independent of the ideomotor effect it should work without the influence of a human operator. Lets' see how fast you can tap dance to this tune................


                        Originally posted by hung View Post
                        What do you mean by 'still can't get it to do anything'?
                        You mean the antenna does not move in your case or you still could not find anything with it?
                        Please detail.

                        The old RT frequencies (more than 3 years old) had problems, but I believe the new ones are way better. Being a customer you can get the upgraded frequencies from them.
                        I use my own researched frequencies but these I can't release sorry. They are also used in our powerful LRL System.
                        However I already tested RT's new ones with sucess.

                        There's a simple test I have done that proved the device was calibrated and working fine that you could also perform. This worked for me, so this should also work for you.

                        Randomly enter a local FM station frequency in the calculator (millions of hertz) that you don't know where it's located. Do this say 3 times with 3 different stations.
                        Enter your particular routine (if any) that you use to detect an ordinary target. Adjust the knob for best swing of the antenna. Use always your right hand. I'm left handed and if I use it in my left hand the antenna turns sluggish or simply don't move. I learned to use it in my right hand, and today is so natural and automatic.

                        The examiner antenna will align to the direction of those FM station antennas and you can confirm later if the directions were correct.
                        I did this test and it worked fine. In my case, there are 2 stations which I later confirmed that are located in the same line span, being one to the right and the other to the left. The examiner clearly pointed and distinguished both of them.

                        For this test, you don't need samples that you know where they are placed and also you don't need to go in the field to locate something buried that you could have a hard time to pinpoint it.
                        This simple test will show you the examiner concept working.

                        This test worked for me. I hope it works for you.

                        Best regards.
                        Wes Pearson
                        "Why Yes! I am a Real Helicopter Pilot"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by WesP View Post
                          So Hung if a person were to mount and level an R/T on say a camera tripod in a location that would be far removed from buildings, power lines or other man made interference producing items, but within range of a number of FM radio transmitters. Would the R/T still turn to indicate the direction of the antenna transmitting on the frequency entered in the calculator? If it truly is independent of the ideomotor effect it should work without the influence of a human operator. Lets' see how fast you can tap dance to this tune................
                          Hi Wes,
                          No, I believe the examiner can't move by itself as it needs the charges from the human operator. If you visit RT's site, you will find this explanation in detail. I for myself am convinced that not only charges are involved but somehow the EM signatures of the operator also. They are conected. In my view the Examiner is pretty much a radionics machine. But it's possible to build an all electronic version.

                          I already did many tests with the examiner and found that during the day, my rate of sucess is much higher than at night when I'm stressed and tired. Detection becomes slow and unprecise. My voltage drops like a battery...
                          I know of some examiner users who seem to confirm this also. There's a user who reported to me a heart surgery which dramatically diminished the antennas reponse. He found that by touching the down tip of the brass handle with his pinky, the response enhanced for him and that's how he's been using it ever since.
                          There's a report I made about voltages and the examiner which you might find interesting. It's somewhere in this forum. I ended up by saying that there's an enormous wealth of other research and tests to be done to the intriguing examiner concept. Unfortunately I just don't have the time to do it. I hope someone finally do it someday.

                          Regards.
                          "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by hung View Post
                            Please, let me know the results with other people holding your device.

                            What for? Makes no sense. If needed, require another one directly from RT. Easy as that.
                            Or simply don't bother, and save the cost of post and packing.

                            Of course the RT doesn't work! It's already fulfilled its function the day it was purchased. i.e. the day Clondike Clad opened his wallet.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by WesP View Post
                              Lets' see how fast you can tap dance to this tune................
                              Originally posted by hung View Post
                              Hi Wes,
                              No, I believe the examiner can't move by itself as it needs the charges from the human operator. If you visit RT's site, you will find this explanation in detail. I for myself am convinced that not only charges are involved but somehow the EM signatures of the operator also. They are conected. In my view the Examiner is pretty much a radionics machine. But it's possible to build an all electronic version.

                              I already did many tests with the examiner and found that during the day, my rate of sucess is much higher than at night when I'm stressed and tired. Detection becomes slow and unprecise. My voltage drops like a battery...
                              I know of some examiner users who seem to confirm this also. There's a user who reported to me a heart surgery which dramatically diminished the antennas reponse. He found that by touching the down tip of the brass handle with his pinky, the response enhanced for him and that's how he's been using it ever since.
                              There's a report I made about voltages and the examiner which you might find interesting. It's somewhere in this forum. I ended up by saying that there's an enormous wealth of other research and tests to be done to the intriguing examiner concept. Unfortunately I just don't have the time to do it. I hope someone finally do it someday.

                              Regards.
                              Tap, tap, tap, tappety tap.
                              Attached Files

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by hung View Post
                                Hi Wes,
                                No, I believe the examiner can't move by itself as it needs the charges from the human operator.
                                Yeah, sure it does.

                                Okay! If the examiner needs a charge from the human operator, just put the thing on the camera tripod, as was suggested, and simply connect a 6 foot length of wire from the metal tripod, holding the RT dowsing rod, and then let the operator grasp the other end of the wire. Now the tripod, the Examiner and the operator are all at the same electrical potential, and the charge from the operator is transferred to the Examiner (dowsing wand).

                                Will it move now? (rhetorical)

                                Of course it won't! Because we both know it requires an ideomotor response and that can't happen unless the operator is actually holding it (freely) in their hand.

                                Besides yourself; how many other gullible people do you think will fall for "...the examiner can't move by itself as it needs the charges from the human operator"?

                                That excuse is so old that LRL salesmen were using it back when Carl Anderson first started advertising his dowsing rods back in the early 1970s. Don't you think it's about time to fabricate some new excuses?


                                The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                                Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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