One more to prove the concept

[Qiaozhi]

You will never ever ever ever ever change their mind. I have seen enough dL'ers to say that with extreme confidence. Suggesting tests like these mean nothing to someone that far gone. You may as well tell an alchoholic to stop drinking, and show him all the reasons why he should. Reasons mean nothing to an alchoholic.

May I suggest that Hung should join a self-help group, such as Dowsers Anonymous?

[Qiaozhi]

More pseudo-scientific gobbledygook

From the RangerTell website:

Users are often amused by the scientific calculator attached to the unit. It is a breakthrough only Ranger-Tell has developed. The Ofki© (Omni Field Key Interpreter) concept which uses our unique diode system is connected via induction to the main circuitry inside the control box and outperforms units that are five times more expensive. Our competitors use bulky oscillation principles with too many expensive bells and whistles. Our techs deserve a science prize for this original concept. You can even choose feet or meters, miles or kilometers by pressing two keys.


Amused is not the word I would use. Hilarious would be more appropriate.

[hung]

Hi Clondike


Rangertell here. We will replace your Examiner on your sending it back to us.


RTL&ES

Hey,I see your support still rocks along the years.
Thanks for being so helpful in Clondike's case.

I'm done with these guys here.

Best Regards.

[Theseus]

Clondike Clad - go for it!
This will no doubt be the latest model with improved frequencies, the correct number of knobs, and suitable diodes in the right places.
We may even be given a new excuse by Hung when you find that it doesn't work.

Yes! Most definitely go for it, CC. You will be out some postage but at least when you get it, try it, and find it works (or conversely doesn't work) just like the one you already have, then the case will be closed.

Or will it.....? Will there be more excuses? ...more reasons why "you" just aren't cut out to make it work?

I know I'm not alone in wondering what the next line of "excuses" will be, but one thing is for sure ---when it does not work, just like the one you have; there will be excuses provided.

[Fred]

Hey,I see your support still rocks along the years.
Thanks for being so helpful in Clondike's case.
I'm done with these guys here.
Best Regards.

Geee Hung, how old are you ?

[Clondike Clad]

Hi Clondike


Rangertell here. We will replace your Examiner on your sending it back to us.


RTL&ES

Is it going to cost me to get a replacment?
Also my rt will move but only if i make it move.
How long wil it take to get a replacment?
I would like to get the replacment first and i will send my old unit .
I will keep working with it until I get the new one.
Do you have more way s of test that I can do?

[Carl-NC]

Well, if the best tests we can come up with are all no good, then how will we know if these LRLs work or not? Must we believe hung's stories that he refuses to prove? How come hung's stories don't agree with the performance observed by others like Clondike-Clad, gold24h, Carl-NC and others?

My suggestion, as always, is "look and see for yourself." I've provided numerous tests that will prove LRLs are bogus. But only if you run those tests and do so honestly.

As you say, Hung provides nothing but verbal claims. Blanes and other manufacturers do the same. Lots of talk, no walk. Take a look at all the treasure found with LRLs, vs all the treasure found with other instruments. dL'ers talk about all the micron gold they find, auras from treasures that have already been removed, vast treasure hoards on gov't property they can't get to, and incredible finds they refuse to show because the black helicopters are circling. Real treasure hunters show you the treasure they've actually recovered. That's how you distinguish the walkers from the talkers.

Look, and see for yourself.

I'm done with these guys here.

Alcoholics often reach a state of such extreme denial that they will simply stick their fingers in their ears and walk away from any attempt at a rational conversation about their "problem". Very likely Hung realizes that all the tests I listed will show exactly what I said they will show, but his delusions kick in and tell him that LRLs must work no matter how many tests they fail, therefore the tests must be wrong. That is extreme denial.

- Carl

[Rangertell]

My suggestion, as always, is "look and see for yourself." I've provided numerous tests that will prove LRLs are bogus. But only if you run those tests and do so honestly.

As you say, Hung provides nothing but verbal claims. Blanes and other manufacturers do the same. Lots of talk, no walk. Take a look at all the treasure found with LRLs, vs all the treasure found with other instruments. dL'ers talk about all the micron gold they find, auras from treasures that have already been removed, vast treasure hoards on gov't property they can't get to, and incredible finds they refuse to show because the black helicopters are circling. Real treasure hunters show you the treasure they've actually recovered. That's how you distinguish the walkers from the talkers.

Look, and see for yourself.



Alcoholics often reach a state of such extreme denial that they will simply stick their fingers in their ears and walk away from any attempt at a rational conversation about their "problem". Very likely Hung realizes that all the tests I listed will show exactly what I said they will show, but his delusions kick in and tell him that LRLs must work no matter how many tests they fail, therefore the tests must be wrong. That is extreme denial.

- Carl

It would be nice Carl if you referred to the correct manufacturer name with Rangertell. It's not Blanes but Brooker. Changing it on your report would be appropriate and respected as this. Thanks in advance.

for G. Brooker, Rangertell

[hung]

My suggestion, as always, is "look and see for yourself." I've provided numerous tests that will prove LRLs are bogus. But only if you run those tests and do so honestly.

As you say, Hung provides nothing but verbal claims. Blanes and other manufacturers do the same. Lots of talk, no walk. Take a look at all the treasure found with LRLs, vs all the treasure found with other instruments. dL'ers talk about all the micron gold they find, auras from treasures that have already been removed, vast treasure hoards on gov't property they can't get to, and incredible finds they refuse to show because the black helicopters are circling. Real treasure hunters show you the treasure they've actually recovered. That's how you distinguish the walkers from the talkers.

Look, and see for yourself.



Alcoholics often reach a state of such extreme denial that they will simply stick their fingers in their ears and walk away from any attempt at a rational conversation about their "problem". Very likely Hung realizes that all the tests I listed will show exactly what I said they will show, but his delusions kick in and tell him that LRLs must work no matter how many tests they fail, therefore the tests must be wrong. That is extreme denial.

- Carl

Frankly I did not even bother reading your required tests in some early post, I'm sorryt.
Whatever they are they will only fit your agenda.
I don't want to prove anyting to you or the others. Stop dreaming about that. That will never happen.

Actually along the past 4 years, I started a serious research about those things and did all imaginable tests that provided me all comprehension and learning. Those brought me answers. Those answers led me to develop my sucessful all electronic system. But as the possibilities are vast, we are thinking newer innovations each day.

Your acoholic example fits exactly the ignorant skeptics. So LRLs don't find treasures?
Your 'baiting' attitude just give a big grin in my face. If you could see it right now...

[Carl-NC]

It would be nice Carl if you referred to the correct manufacturer name with Rangertell. It's not Blanes but Brooker. Changing it on your report would be appropriate and respected as this. Thanks in advance.

for G. Brooker, Rangertell

I already know your name is Vincent Blanes. I even have your phone number from a customer, that matches the entry for Blanes. And one of the Examiners I own, had your home address on the box. And you initially registered your web site under your real name. Oops, better be more careful with the ol' secret identity!

[Carl-NC]

Frankly I did not even bother reading your required tests in some early post, I'm sorryt.
Whatever they are they will only fit your agenda.
I don't want to prove anyting to you or the others. Stop dreaming about that. That will never happen.

Fingers in the ears. Classic denial.

It works no matter how often it fails. Completely delusional.

Yes, a delusional denier will never ever ever ever change his mind, just like I said.

- Carl

[hung]

Carl, I believe you own an arsenal of LRLs, right? You could not make any of them work? Not a single one? Not even half?
This is unbelievable. Take the RT unit you pictured in your report. You stated it could not find anything. With a unit built by me based on that report I could find a silver ring. I say a big thanks to you by the way.

With the PDC 205 that you said did not work, an ex-member of my team found several colonial era gold coins which allowed him to open a restaurant.
Then there are the electroscope and all the others you claim don't work but I already contacted sucessful owners of some of them who are happy users.

Now you own an all electronic device such as the FG80 and still could not make it to work?!
Man, forget LRL scientific research, your are the real object of study!
You deserve tests thoroughly conducted to understand your complete incapacity with those devices.
Assuming you are not lying, when you stated you can't make an LRL work, as I hate liars, the only thing left is this fantastic, complete lack of ability to operate LRLs.
I grant you that the day I arrive in US, I would like to study you.
You are amazing!

[Carl-NC]

Assuming you are not lying, when you stated you can't make an LRL work, as I hate liars, the only thing left is this fantastic, complete lack of ability to operate LRLs. You are amazing!

What's really amazing, is how all the expert LRL users I've encountered also can't make an LRL work when I'm watching! They fail just as consistently as I do. Must be those SkepticWaves I emit!

- Carl

[J_Player]

I don't want to prove anyting to you or the others. Stop dreaming about that. That will never happen.

Really?
Then why are you here? What is your post above for?

Take note:

"How do you help a compulsive liar? You don't!
The person that is the compulsive liar has to reach out for professional help and it doesn't matter what you say or do, this person has to admit they need help. In truth when they say, "they are always the last to know", meaning, an alcoholic never thinks they have a problem with alcohol, a compulsive liar never thinks they lie, etc. Until they reach a point in their lives where they have no place to go but the truth about themselves there is nothing anyone can do for them".

From: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you...ompulsive_liar
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica

I guess Carl-NC was right. Nothing we can do. Maybe some day hung will notice that he is surrounded by people who think his stories are BS. Maybe some day he will read the false information he posted in the Geotech forums and recognize it is false instead of claiming it is not what he posted.

Best wishes,
J_S

[Carl-NC]

No no no! I don't claim for a minute that Hung is lying, and I don't think he is. Rather, he is delusional about his experience with LRLs, and in denial about any information counter to his beliefs. This is a better fit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion

And don't get me wrong, I do not deny that people who use LRLs never ever find anything. Occasionally (though rarely), they do. So do people who randomly dig holes*.

But I do claim that the LRL itself is incapable of doing what they claim it is doing. People who use LRLs and have made recoveries do so because (1) they've done research, (2) they are looking, and (3) they are also using other tools that Really Work.

- Carl

* There are numerous documented finds made by construction crews. The sum total of all these random recoveries likely exceeds the sum total of all LRL recoveries.