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  • #16
    Originally posted by Max View Post
    Then read here... and enjoy!

    http://www.skepdic.com/quadro.html
    Hmmmm....
    It says here:
    Sandia Labs of Albuquerque, New Mexico, took one apart and discovered that there is nothing inside. It probably costs about $2 to make....

    ...In court it was pointed out that the Quadro Detector had been carefully examined and that no "inductors, conductors, or oscillators" were found, though Quadro advertised those as the working parts of its "secret technology." Quadro claimed that theirs were not "ordinary" inductors, conductors, or oscillators. Theirs are of an advanced sort not yet known to "regular science."

    And the Quadro-tracker advertising said:
    ...The frequency chip is oscillated by static electricity produced by the body [of the user] inhaling and exhaling gases into and out of the lung cavity. This static electricity is propagated on the surface of the body to the tracker which utilizes the charge to oscillate the chip....All matter contains exact molecular frequencies. When a magnetic field is created by a contained electrically charged body moving through space at a perpendicular angle moving to its direction, and that field is brought into alignment with another exact field, resonating at the identical frequency modulation, then both objects attract, just as two bodies are attracted toward each other in a gravitational field".

    Somehow, their claims sound similar to secret science discoveries we have read posted by a famous expert in this forum...

    Best wishes,
    J_P

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Max View Post
      Hmmmmm....


      if Sandia Labs say that are BS... I belive that.

      Or have I to belive that you can find paper money with them at 1mile distance ?

      Or drugs ?

      Or explosive stuff ?

      Or weapons ?

      C'mon... get a life....

      You read too many science fiction... few is good... too much cook the remaining neurons... like in Esteban's case with PaloAlto... he takes too much... and now he's sick!

      Kind regards,
      Max
      You are insane...

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      • #18
        Why would the government want to suppress info? Anyone who thinks the government would offer military info "for the good of society" is sadly mistaken. Here's a story.

        A chinese man invented a man-carrying kite/flying machine (remember flying magic carpets? Very similar to early hang gliders.) and he took it to the emperor. The emperor said that's very nice but now I have to kill you. If the enemy gets this info they will be able to fly over the Great Wall and attack us.

        How much iinfo on dowsing has the government suppress, no one knows. Many people who worked in the remote viewing program think they are still involved.

        As for the Quardo locators, I owned one and I did find some gold with it. Also found some paper money in a contest with about thirty other people. While I admit it was basically a dowsing rod, ther might have been more to it than the government-funded skeptics could understand. At any rate, it was not an MFD or HID device. Just like using metal detectors, some people are more skilled. And they are not 100% accurate, but they don't need to be (compared to a bomb sniffer).

        I have to believe this group never even looked at an MFD. They probably took someone else's opinion as fact. It's quite obvious they discounted the entire dowsing scenario, and I might add their wording mimicks other skeptics. It appears to me someone fed them a line of BS and they ate it with a spoon.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post

          As for the Quardo locators, I owned one and I did find some gold with it. .
          For sure, in the grandmother's jewelry box.


          Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
          Also found some paper money in a contest with about thirty other people
          Now I believe in LRL. You are searching in the Bank? The cops came too late? Unbelievable!
          Global capital is ruining your life?
          You have right to self-defence!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Esteban View Post
            You are insane...
            Me !?

            I don't say I can find paper money with a plastic made full of farts gizmo... nor I sell it also to FBI !

            Do I ?

            Or you manybe mean Mike(Mont) is a "normal" person ???

            Don't you remember where he posted about the stuff you put on your tongue to detect things from remote....

            Which will be next step ??? Put the PaloAlto in your back and use as a dowsing rod !?

            Kind regards,
            Max

            "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
            But we dont need a reason
            "

            someone said...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Max View Post
              Me !?

              I don't say I can find paper money with a plastic made full of farts gizmo... nor I sell it also to FBI !

              Do I ?

              Or you manybe mean Mike(Mont) is a "normal" person ???

              Don't you remember where he posted about the stuff you put on your tongue to detect things from remote....

              Which will be next step ??? Put the PaloAlto in your back and use as a dowsing rod !?

              Kind regards,
              Max
              First, look yourself, do you're normal?

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              • #22
                Actually the people at Quadro, did use one of my Frequency Discriminators (MFD) to find a sunken River boat, and recovered a safe with $ 50,000 + in it, before they invented Quadro.

                At my own expense, I went to Carolina, purchased a Quadro, field tested it for a week in that envoirment, and dissected the Quadro, 3 months before it went on the market. I cautioned Treasure Hunters against purchasing the product.

                No, there is no similarity between Quadro, and the MFD concept. Skeptics writing their pretend Science junk, appear to be too stupid to recognize the difference, or even care if what they write is fact, or truth.

                A good example is the author of this misleading Header;

                US Department of Justice Identifies MFD and HID as Worthless Dowsing Gadgets

                That's NOT TRUE, as any idiot can see by reading the Justice Department disclaimer.

                They make no affirmation that the Author's statement is true. In fact, the author(s) remain anonymous. It could have been any one of you that wrote the negative report.

                The first time I read this report posted on a public forum it included the name "OMNITRON."

                There are certainly plenty of reasons to question the Skeptic's practice of deception and pretend Science? I also question the mentality, and agenda behind it? Dell
                "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                  First, look yourself, do you're normal?
                  What do you mean ???

                  If I'm in the average of people ?

                  Sure... no, I'm not... dang ! but this is another issue...

                  But for "normal" of the post above I meant not-insane...

                  Kind regards,
                  Max

                  "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                  But we dont need a reason
                  "

                  someone said...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                    Actually the people at Quadro, did use one of my Frequency Discriminators (MFD) to find a sunken River boat, and recovered a safe with $ 50,000 + in it, before they invented Quadro.

                    At my own expense, I went to Carolina, purchased a Quadro, field tested it for a week in that envoirment, and dissected the Quadro, 3 months before it went on the market. I cautioned Treasure Hunters against purchasing the product.

                    No, there is no similarity between Quadro, and the MFD concept. Skeptics writing their pretend Science junk, appear to be too stupid to recognize the difference, or even care if what they write is fact, or truth.

                    A good example is the author of this misleading Header;

                    US Department of Justice Identifies MFD and HID as Worthless Dowsing Gadgets

                    That's NOT TRUE, as any idiot can see by reading the Justice Department disclaimer.

                    They make no affirmation that the Author's statement is true. In fact, the author(s) remain anonymous. It could have been any one of you that wrote the negative report.

                    The first time I read this report posted on a public forum it included the name "OMNITRON."

                    There are certainly plenty of reasons to question the Skeptic's practice of deception and pretend Science? I also question the mentality, and agenda behind it? Dell
                    Isn't MFD in the mind of belivers and sellers stay for "Multi Frequency Discrimination" and similar stuff ???

                    Then the article I posted link , do you read it ?

                    This part:

                    "Quadro claimed that the device uses "tuned frequency chips" to hone in on its target:

                    The frequency chip is oscillated by static electricity produced by the body [of the user] inhaling and exhaling gases into and out of the lung cavity. This static electricity is propagated on the surface of the body to the tracker which utilizes the charge to oscillate the chip...."

                    Now... tell me... what's that frequency they wrote ? Isn't the magic "resonant" frequency of wanted target ?
                    Isn't that way that the device is claimed to be discriminating stuff ?

                    So , following that it's what belivers call MFD.

                    But seems you don't like that...

                    Your problem not mine.

                    Kind regards,
                    Max

                    "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                    But we dont need a reason
                    "

                    someone said...

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                    • #25
                      Just read what electronics people are saying in their advertising about the LRL products they manufacture. Are you a believer in what Electronic Engineers, and Techs say?

                      Apparently not. Neither am I.
                      Electronics people are ripping off LRL customers with deceptive advertising, and high prices.

                      Again, I repeat. There is no relation between the method of Discrimination used by Quadro, and my MFD products, so quit trying to inference a connection. You are speaking in ignorance.

                      You also ignore a pertinent fact. The Government, with all it's resources, was unable to prove it's case against Quadro. Quadro, was found "NOT GUILTY" of all charges.

                      If you don't like the verdict, take it up with the Justice department, not me. Dell
                      "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                        Actually the people at Quadro, did use one of my Frequency Discriminators (MFD) to find a sunken River boat, and recovered a safe with $ 50,000 + in it, before they invented Quadro.
                        I can do that too, when my dowsing rod is pointing down it means the sunken boat is below the water.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fred
                          I can do that too, when my dowsing rod is pointing down it means the sunken boat is below the water.
                          Hmmmm.....
                          I guess that's true indicator that proves it works because it will always show the target is below the surface of the water or below the surface of the earth, Never a false reading showing the target is buried in the sky...

                          Best wishes,
                          J_P

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                            Just read what electronics people are saying in their advertising about the LRL products they manufacture. Are you a believer in what Electronic Engineers, and Techs say?

                            Apparently not. Neither am I.
                            Electronics people are ripping off LRL customers with deceptive advertising, and high prices.

                            Again, I repeat. There is no relation between the method of Discrimination used by Quadro, and my MFD products, so quit trying to inference a connection. You are speaking in ignorance.

                            You also ignore a pertinent fact. The Government, with all it's resources, was unable to prove it's case against Quadro. Quadro, was found "NOT GUILTY" of all charges.

                            If you don't like the verdict, take it up with the Justice department, not me. Dell
                            It's an MFD and it's worthless... like all the others.

                            Ignorance ? Me ?

                            Have you graduated in physics at Harvard , no ?

                            Kind regards,
                            Max

                            "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                            But we dont need a reason
                            "

                            someone said...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                              Hmmmm.....
                              I guess that's true indicator that proves it works because it will always show the target is below the surface of the water or below the surface of the earth, Never a false reading showing the target is buried in the sky...

                              Best wishes,
                              J_P
                              Hmmmmmm......

                              it's like a plumabob...

                              useful...at least!

                              Kind regards,
                              Max

                              "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                              But we dont need a reason
                              "

                              someone said...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dell Winders
                                ...At my own expense, I went to Carolina, purchased a Quadro, field tested it for a week in that envoirment, and dissected the Quadro, 3 months before it went on the market. I cautioned Treasure Hunters against purchasing the product.
                                Hi Dell,
                                When you dissected the Quadro, did you find there was nothing inside as was written on the page Max posted? Or did you find something inside?

                                "Sandia Labs of Albuquerque, New Mexico, took one apart and discovered that there is nothing inside".

                                Best wishes,
                                J_P

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