How can comprobe if LRL rods works

[Fred]

Yes - but then it will stop "working".
From what I can see in your diagram, it depends on the antenna being allowed to move. The PD is something else. It does not depend on the ideomotor effect.

Tecnhically, by coupling, the coils could still be giving signals,in a similar way the big aluminium coil does in others diagrams esteban posted.The rods here are just antennas.

[Theseus]

Remember the Forum rules:
Be polite. Name calling will get you banned quickly.
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Dowsing is known to be a "trick of the mind", and has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, except to those whose living depends upon it ... aka the wallet-miners.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK!"

In the past, Dell has had a lot of trouble remembering forum rules, or even what he has posted just a day or two ago. He especially gets irate (and forgetful) if his livelihood is threatened.

[Geo]

Yes - it may appear to you that the dowsing rods are working, but it is a "trick of the mind".
If you take the time to set up a double-blind test, you will find that the effect disappears.

Hi Qiaozhi.
I can't understand why is trick of the mind???
Yesterday afternoon i received a signal with my L Rods at my farm. I dig it (last time i spend my time at farm so it is very often and easy for me to dowse or to dig) and i found a piece of copper about 4 cm. i received the signal from 20m distance and from all the directions.
So were is the trick of the mind ?? Why to do a double-blind test ???
Of course there are times that i take signal, but i find nothing. If we stay at the times where we find any object (small or big, gold or iron), i think that it is time to study the phenomenon.

my regards

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi.
I can't understand why is trick of the mind???
Yesterday afternoon i received a signal with my L Rods at my farm. I dig it (last time i spend my time at farm so it is very often and easy for me to dowse or to dig) and i found a piece of copper about 4 cm. i received the signal from 20m distance and from all the directions.
So were is the trick of the mind ?? Why to do a double-blind test ???
Of course there are times that i take signal, but i find nothing. If we stay at the times where we find any object (small or big, gold or iron), i think that it is time to study the phenomenon.

my regards

You have answered your own question:

1. Yesterday afternoon i received a signal with my L Rods at my farm ... and i found a piece of copper about 4 cm.
2. ... there are times that i take signal, but i find nothing.

If you record all the times you receive a "signal", and then write down the result, you will find that it is the same result as guessing. Dowsing is quite compelling because it is easy to deceive yourself that the movement of the rods is due to an external influence, when in fact it is caused by the ideomotor effect. This effect is produced from the unconscious mind. When you combine this with selective memory, it then becomes a trick of the mind. Try a double-blind test, and the "effect" will go away. It's only an illusion.

[Geo]

You have answered your own question:

1. Yesterday afternoon i received a signal with my L Rods at my farm ... and i found a piece of copper about 4 cm.
2. ... there are times that i take signal, but i find nothing.

If you record all the times you receive a "signal", and then write down the result, you will find that it is the same result as guessing. Dowsing is quite compelling because it is easy to deceive yourself that the movement of the rods is due to an external influence, when in fact it is caused by the ideomotor effect. This effect is produced from the unconscious mind. When you combine this with selective memory, it then becomes a trick of the mind. Try a double-blind test, and the "effect" will go away. It's only an illusion.

So the copper that i found is a product from the unconscious mind ??
Coins that i have found are a product from the unconscious mind ????
The only that i know is that i take the L Rods and i find coins etc. I have found more coins with the rods than with metal detectors.
I have not problem if the coins that i found are from dowsing method or from unconscious mind. Please find a method so the unconscious mind to help us for finding coins treasures etc without the need of metal detectors.

[Esteban]

A friend mark a site from 200 m, but in the site normal detectors don't show signals. The persons dig and found 4 big French silver coins of 1835 at 2.30 meters. So, sometimes you don't found because is at high depth.

[Geo]

A friend mark a site from 200 m, but in the site normal detectors don't show signals. The persons dig and found 4 big French silver coins of 1835 at 2.30 meters. So, sometimes you don't found because is at high depth.

I absolutely agree. Simply sometimes I am more relaxed in my answers, because I want is given attention in other point.
Regards

[hung]

Hi Okantex!

Don't waste your time with Ozzy... The only thing here that trully does not work is himself!

[Esteban]

Of course, you'll mantain some attitude and have practice with it. I see a man who almost never fails and the method is some complex, but is between 2 persons. Also I found with it, but don't know why... but better is inside a motor wich produce some vibrations in hand, this help very much.

[hung]

Geo, maybe you need to double check with your ICONOS or your own electronic LRL.
Before the MIDAS, I and my team always had the Rangertell point a direction as a first detector. Then after sometime, the PDC, FG, etc started to react until we could get to the target.

This aproach with your dowsing rods would be useful for you to start to isolate only gold.
Best regards.

[hung]

Of course, you'll mantain some attitude and have practice with it. I see a man who almost never fails and the method is some complex, but is between 2 persons. Also I found with it, but don't know why... but better is inside a motor wich produce some vibrations in hand, this help very much.

You can use LEDs also.
I beieve Knouzm dowsing devices all have LEDs.

[Esteban]

You can use LEDs also.
I beieve Knouzm dowsing devices all have LEDs.

No, vibration is for muscle, leds no.

[Qiaozhi]

So the copper that i found is a product from the unconscious mind ??
Coins that i have found are a product from the unconscious mind ????
The only that i know is that i take the L Rods and i find coins etc. I have found more coins with the rods than with metal detectors.
I have not problem if the coins that i found are from dowsing method or from unconscious mind. Please find a method so the unconscious mind to help us for finding coins treasures etc without the need of metal detectors.

If you want to use rods, guessing, or whatever to find treasure ... and it seems to be working for you ... then use it.

But. if you want to understand what's really happening, perform a double-blind test. Of course, if you're like Hung, you can continue with your head in the sand and refuse to know the sad truth.

Whatever you decide, it's up to you.

[Qiaozhi]

You can use LEDs also.
I beieve Knouzm dowsing devices all have LEDs.

http://knouzm.net/content/view/333/98/lang,en/

Hmmm ... this looks like some familiar wallet-mining.

[Max]

http://knouzm.net/content/view/333/98/lang,en/

Hmmm ... this looks like some familiar wallet-mining.

new label... KM5000!

What an effort I say....

What to expect from people that love carnival ?

Just new mask for same stuff..

Kind regads,
Max