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  • #46
    Yeah I agree

    Jim,

    Since I actually got the steep skirted IR filter and tried it I now agree with you and Max/Robert (post above yours).

    And as I stated on the other forum if it works fine (same with the upcoming 808nm laser for the lasing experiment) and hey I'm out a total of $60 which for 2 experiments isn't bad.
    I do have an article from the California Mining Journal that you saw posted here and the other forum where IR between 700-900nm is valuable for Geological Remote Sensing which has been done for decades now so will invest in 3 separate bandpass filters for each (700nm,800nm+900nm)but for treasure hunting of NO value so far as I can tell until proven by yours truly. I am a part time gold placer miner and prospector so the above article will be yet another tool in my Geological tool chest.
    Sorry I couldn't help you treasure hunters,

    Randy

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Seden
      I do have an article from the California Mining Journal that you saw posted here and the other forum where IR between 700-900nm is valuable for Geological Remote Sensing which has been done for decades now so will invest in 3 separate bandpass filters for each (700nm,800nm+900nm)but for treasure hunting of NO value so far as I can tell until proven by yours truly. I am a part time gold placer miner and prospector so the above article will be yet another tool in my Geological tool chest
      Hi Randy,
      If lasers like yours have been used for decades in Geological remote sensing, then is seems you have a valuable laser for experimenting with. Aside from geological testing, there may be some application in experimenting with remote sensing of treasures. The time when buried treasure takes on the attributes of some geological conditions is when it resembles placer gold. ie: it has been buried for a long time. In this condition, you can expect the soil around where the treasure is buried is not the same as the surrounding soil. The difference may be small and hard to detect, but we have read reports that others have done it. Maybe by using your laser, you will have better results that people who used IR diodes.

      Best wishes,
      J_P

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      • #48
        JIM # 45

        Dear friend Jim,
        re. David's Villanueva book , it happened to read it a month ago.
        I believe it is premature to judge against it before performing the tests as described in the book.
        I am certain nobody took the trouble to replicate these tests as detailed by David.
        I mean by the same camera, same filters, same photoshop, with serious amounts of gold and silver buried into the soil for a long time, at least for a month, not single coins, not hidden in holes and Zampetas guarding the treasure a la Django [my friend this Zampetas of yours is already world-famous... ]
        No need to open any camera and scratch the IR factory filter .
        Read the book and go by the book.
        Then if there are no results then we have the right of criticism.
        Until proven liar we have to respect and consider what the author asserts.
        wish you success,
        Alex 356

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        • #49
          Originally posted by ALEX.356 View Post
          Dear friend Jim,
          re. David's Villanueva book , it happened to read it a month ago.
          I believe it is premature to judge against it before performing the tests as described in the book.
          I am certain nobody took the trouble to replicate these tests as detailed by David.
          I mean by the same camera, same filters, same photoshop, with serious amounts of gold and silver buried into the soil for a long time, at least for a month, not single coins, not hidden in holes and Zampetas guarding the treasure a la Django [my friend this Zampetas of yours is already world-famous... ]
          No need to open any camera and scratch the IR factory filter .
          Read the book and go by the book.
          Then if there are no results then we have the right of criticism.
          Until proven liar we have to respect and consider what the author asserts.
          wish you success,
          Alex 356
          Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

          It is up to the person presenting the "theory" to prove that it is correct, not the other way round. Otherwise I could just as easily claim that there is a silver tea tray in orbit around the Earth, and then challenge you to prove me wrong!

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          • #50
            Randy...thanks for the cordial reply.

            I think David Villanueva accomplished what he set out to do. He got our hard earned money, and we got nothing in return but a fist full of hooha, gibberish and wish science.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by ALEX.356 View Post

              Read the book and go by the book.
              Then if there are no results then we have the right of criticism.
              Until proven liar we have to respect and consider what the author asserts.
              Greetings...others and I have "gone by the book" and have not been able to duplicate the results promised by the author. Old buried gold is not a requirement, as the author states his method works on freshly buried gold as well. The author also claims his method works on other buried materials. This is also a false claim.

              The method does not work...period. Consider this a "proven liar" notification, if you will.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Jim View Post
                Greetings...others and I have "gone by the book" and have not been able to duplicate the results promised by the author. Old buried gold is not a requirement, as the author states his method works on freshly buried gold as well. The author also claims his method works on other buried materials. This is also a false claim.

                The method does not work...period. Consider this a "proven liar" notification, if you will.
                I have not read the book (nor will I waste my time), but I will support your notification based on previous dealings I've had with Mr. David Villanueva. Categorically, he is known for making "lots" of wild unsupported claims especially on the topic of dowsing and related subjects. I'm not at all surprised that you and others were unable to duplicate his claims made in the subject book.

                The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ALEX.356 View Post
                  Dear friend Jim,
                  re. David's Villanueva book , it happened to read it a month ago.
                  I believe it is premature to judge against it before performing the tests as described in the book.
                  I am certain nobody took the trouble to replicate these tests as detailed by David.
                  I mean by the same camera, same filters, same photoshop, with serious amounts of gold and silver buried into the soil for a long time, at least for a month, not single coins, not hidden in holes and Zampetas guarding the treasure a la Django [my friend this Zampetas of yours is already world-famous... ]
                  No need to open any camera and scratch the IR factory filter .
                  Read the book and go by the book.
                  Then if there are no results then we have the right of criticism.
                  Until proven liar we have to respect and consider what the author asserts.
                  wish you success,
                  Alex 356
                  "Until proven liar we have to respect and consider what the author asserts."

                  Hi,
                  so, following that logic... you said that if someone wrote e.g. that the aliens bring him up their startship and played poker games with him just for the fun of earning some easy terrestrial money... hmmmmm
                  must respect the author cause... till not proven a liar...

                  What's that ?

                  If someone say that you're the 1,000,000,000 visitor of a website and won a fantastic lamborghini car , you click then, uh ?

                  There are things that are obvious contraptions... obsvious scams... obvious (and mostly ridiculos) fake claims about LRLs and LRL "methods" ...
                  no need of a wagon of scientist to have proofs that stuff is a big pile of c.r.a.p.

                  Anyone can smell BS ! But people how buy that stuff or belive in such impossible-to-be-true claims... are scam-vulnerable... the sellers/authors use that weakness of scientific background and old-good-simple-common-sense to drive them to buy products or books.

                  Happens with aliens... happens with DaVinci-code things and other idiotic fictions... and happens the same with LRL-fairy-tales!

                  Just... people who read and belive in Harry Potter magic powers are 5-7 years old... then most of them simply grow and understand the only magic in Harry Potter story is the mountain of pounds J.K.Rowling earned by that pile of "books" and character rights.

                  Other , instead, remains like childrens and still belive in Santa Claus and Harry Potter... along with Hung's modified RT capable of finding a coin at 1mile in total , 100% foggy day!

                  Kind regards,
                  Max
                  Attached Files

                  "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                  But we dont need a reason
                  "

                  someone said...

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                  • #54
                    I'm clicking on the car...but, I can't seem to win it! :::mumbles:::

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Jim View Post
                      I'm clicking on the car...but, I can't seem to win it! :::mumbles:::
                      Too late!
                      I clicked on it first ... bbrrrrm!

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                      • #56
                        D'oh

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                        • #57
                          HOMEFIRE:
                          Don't use unexposed films. Expose the film first (in front of the puzzeld sales girl at the photo store) and tell her to do the regular C41 processing.
                          Then use it 1, 2 or 3 layers of it in front of the lens of a SLR camera. A CCD will work but not as good. You will have to enhance the picture in a good photoshop type program to see the auras. It will show clearly in the pics.

                          Professional IR band pass filters are better but you have to try the wavelength that works better for your case.

                          It's been working for me for quite some time now.
                          Good luck.
                          "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by hung View Post
                            HOMEFIRE:

                            It's been working for me for quite some time now.
                            Good luck.
                            Sure it has.

                            I just love it when you debunker that way.

                            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by hung View Post
                              HOMEFIRE:
                              Don't use unexposed films. Expose the film first (in front of the puzzeld sales girl at the photo store) and tell her to do the regular C41 processing.
                              Then use it 1, 2 or 3 layers of it in front of the lens of a SLR camera. A CCD will work but not as good. You will have to enhance the picture in a good photoshop type program to see the auras. It will show clearly in the pics.

                              Professional IR band pass filters are better but you have to try the wavelength that works better for your case.

                              It's been working for me for quite some time now.
                              Good luck.

                              What Poppycock!

                              Of course it's working for you, along with a cheap calculator glued to a plastic box and mounted on a swivel handle.

                              Earth to Hung! Time to wake up and face the real world.

                              What about the debunkering? Or do I need to use a modified digital camera to see that as well?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by hung View Post
                                HOMEFIRE:
                                Don't use unexposed films. Expose the film first (in front of the puzzeld sales girl at the photo store) and tell her to do the regular C41 processing.
                                Then use it 1, 2 or 3 layers of it in front of the lens of a SLR camera. A CCD will work but not as good. You will have to enhance the picture in a good photoshop type program to see the auras. It will show clearly in the pics.

                                Professional IR band pass filters are better but you have to try the wavelength that works better for your case.

                                It's been working for me for quite some time now.
                                Good luck.
                                My $12.00 Web cam had no filter.

                                I was just trying to see if the gold would reflect the IR....

                                I don't know about the Auras Thing!

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