Which is the best signal to detect for long-time buried gold?

[J_Player]

What is the best signal to try to detect for locating long-time buried gold?
I am asking this question to be answered by people who claim to be successful when using an LRL to recover treasure. Not from skeptics who do not believe there is a signal to be detected.

According to Esteban, there are many secondary effects which are part of a peculiar phenomenon that accompanies long-time buried metal objects in the soil. He has listed many of these effects, such as electrostatic, magnetic, resistivity, etc.

The question is "which effect of this phenomenon do you consider to be the most reliable and best to detect in your search to locate the buried metal object"? Also, what kind of machine do you use to detect this signal you are looking for?

If you wish, you may qualify your answers by stating that a certain effect is only good for certain conditions, or that certain effects are better suited for other metals than gold, etc.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Hmmmm... It is much as I expected.
So far, no LRL users are able to post an answer to describe what kind of signal they are detecting. Could it be that they don't know what kind of signal they are detecting?

I remember Dell Winders once describing "signal lines" that he detected, which do not behave in a manner consistent with any recognized technical attributes of an electric or magnetic wave or static form of energy. Yet, the described the force of this "signal line" as a magnetic-electric" force.

Perhaps some of the LRL users have an idea what kind of signal they are detecting that is easier to understand from the point of view of a person educated in the mechanisms of electricity, magnetism, chemistry, and electromagnetic wave behavior. Maybe someone has found that a particular kind of signal coming from long-time buried treasure is better to try to sense than others. What machine would you use to accomplish this?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hmmmm... It is much as I expected.
So far, no LRL users are able to post an answer to describe what kind of signal they are detecting. Could it be that they don't know what kind of signal they are detecting?

I remember Dell Winders once describing "signal lines" that he detected, which do not behave in a manner consistent with any recognized technical attributes of an electric or magnetic wave or static form of energy. Yet, the described the force of this "signal line" as a magnetic-electric" force.

Perhaps some of the LRL users have an idea what kind of signal they are detecting that is easier to understand from the point of view of a person educated in the mechanisms of electricity, magnetism, chemistry, and electromagnetic wave behavior. Maybe someone has found that a particular kind of signal coming from long-time buried treasure is better to try to sense than others. What machine would you use to accomplish this?

Best wishes,
J_P

Microvoltmeter 1 uV sensibility input, antenna type. Problem: hot.

Mixed silver things (treasure) + 70 m, depth 75 cm.

Regards

[J_Player]

Microvoltmeter 1 uV sensibility input, antenna type. Problem: hot.

Mixed silver things (treasure) + 70 m, depth 75 cm.

Regards

Thank you Esteban,
I am not clear on your description of what kind of signal you are detecting from 70 meters with the microammeter.
Is it measuring the static electric field in the air?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Thank you Esteban,
I am not clear on your description of what kind of signal you are detecting from 70 meters with the microammeter.
Is it measuring the static electric field in the air?

Best wishes,
J_P

As can be detected by various methods, can be more complex than only static electric field. But this ammount of electricity around good conductive metals buried for long time can be detected at distance. Now, why it can be detected at distance?

[Max]

As can be detected by various methods, can be more complex than only static electric field. But this ammount of electricity around good conductive metals buried for long time can be detected at distance. Now, why it can be detected at distance?

Still zahori ?

[Geo]

Remember the signal from Iconos. Maybe at different scale.

[Fred]

Now, why it can be detected at distance?

Indeed!
what is the stream ?

[J_Player]

As can be detected by various methods, can be more complex than only static electric field. But this ammount of electricity around good conductive metals buried for long time can be detected at distance. Now, why it can be detected at distance?

This amount of electricity is not expected to be much. Just a very few billionths of an amp in a static field that has decreased from its normal 100V/meter. Do you have any idea of what causes this amount of electricity to be detectable with a microammeter at 70 meters distance?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

This amount of electricity is not expected to be much. Just a very few billionths of an amp in a static field that has decreased from its normal 100V/meter. Do you have any idea of what causes this amount of electricity to be detectable with a microammeter at 70 meters distance?

Best wishes,
J_P

I use microvoltmeter with sensibility 1 uA. Maybe the ammount of picoamp or microamp deppend of the size of target.

Now, if you connect in output a headphone via a cap., you can hear very low AM emission. This is in labo. But who knows is also exists a redadiated AM signal from target...?

Regards

[Esteban]

Indeed!
what is the stream ?

Don't understand...

[Max]

I use microvoltmeter with sensibility 1 uA. Maybe the ammount of picoamp or microamp deppend of the size of target.

Now, if you connect in output a headphone via a cap., you can hear very low AM emission. This is in labo. But who knows is also exists a redadiated AM signal from target...?

Regards

?

a microvoltmeter with sensibility of 1uA ??????

You meant 1uV maybe...

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

?

a microvoltmeter with sensibility of 1uA ??????

You meant 1uV maybe... or maybe was a uammeter?

Kind regards,
Max

Yes, maybe...

Sorry, in these old times... 80s... I don't use schematic programm, just pen and paper... Input stage. L1 is not in use.

[J_Player]

Yes, maybe...

Sorry, in these old times... 80s... I don't use schematic programm, just pen and paper... Input stage. L1 is not in use.

Hi Esteban,
The circuit you show looks similar to a simple AM radio detector. The GE diodes are sometimes used in low power radio receivers as a better choice than silicon diodes.

My question is:
1. What is the antenna lead connected to? A whip antenna? Or something else?
2. What is the circuit ground connected to? Only the circuit board ground? Or to the handle of the pistol? Or earth ground?
3. How much of the input stage L1 is not in use? Does this mean the L1 coil is removed from the circuit? And which transistors are removed?
4. How can the antenna work when the input stage is not in use?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
The circuit you show looks similar to a simple AM radio detector. The GE diodes are sometimes used in low power radio receivers as a better choice than silicon diodes.

My question is:
1. What is the antenna lead connected to? A whip antenna? Or something else?
2. What is the circuit ground connected to? Only the circuit board ground? Or to the handle of the pistol? Or earth ground?
3. How much of the input stage L1 is not in use? Does this mean the L1 coil is removed from the circuit? And which transistors are removed?
4. How can the antenna work when the input stage is not in use?

Best wishes,
J_P

1. I can't said about it. The four diodes works as a kind of multiplier. Is strange, but you discover it only by ideas "comes" in your mind, no relation with what have you learned about multipliers. The difference is notorious. If you use common system multiplier diode-capacitor, directly doesn't work. The circuit is not an AM receiver, just a uvoltmeter, even if sometimes come in very low level some AM emission.

2. No, is not to ground, is connection to central antenna. 2 laterals antennas are connected to ground via 560 R, one, and the other via 680 R, a kind of umbalance ground antennas.

3. L1 as removed, this was firsts experiments. No transistor was removed. This is an array transistors IC CA3046, so the transistor not used is shortcircuited and connected to - 3 V.

4. The input antenna always is in use.

Regards