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  • #31
    Originally posted by Fred View Post
    Why at the beginning of the video and at low heigh nothing was detected ?
    At best, this detects horizontal position,or earth capacitance effect as Esteban says.
    You still have a lot to learn about the phenomena and these devices... Come back in say, 4 years maybe?

    Sorry, I don't talk about the obvious anymore. Maybe Esteban still does...
    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by hung View Post
      You still have a lot to learn about the phenomena and these devices... Come back in say, 4 years maybe?

      Sorry, I don't talk about the obvious anymore. Maybe Esteban still does...
      Sure Dr. Hung... you just talk of gold-DNA and other "advanced" BS!

      You'll won the Nobel prize for stupidity... the Nobel prize comitee will create that new stuff just for you (and your team)!

      "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
      But we dont need a reason
      "

      someone said...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hung View Post
        You still have a lot to learn about the phenomena and these devices... Come back in say, 4 years maybe?

        Sorry, I don't talk about the obvious anymore. Maybe Esteban still does...
        What!!??

        No debunkering for 4 years!
        Is this something to do with longtime buried BS?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Morgan View Post
          Hello Geo

          My advice to you is to not build more LRL gizmos until you see PD working here in my country.Not lose time building crap.
          I´m sure after you test the real LRL device (PISTOLDETEKTOR)and see results,your mind concentrate more in reality,not LRL fiction from twilight zone

          Regards
          Morgan

          You need to go with Geo in X location and search for metals and film the recovery. Is not enough testing in your own test field.

          Regards

          Esteban

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Esteban
            Morgan

            You need to go with Geo in X location and search for metals and film the recovery. Is not enough testing in your own test field.

            Regards

            Esteban
            This is correct.
            If you only want your LRL to work for yourself, and you do not care who believes, then it is enough to test in your own field.

            But if your purpose is to convince other forum readers that your LRL works, then it is not enough to test in your own field.
            This will only convince you, not the other readers. You must show them something to make them believe.
            A videotaped treasure recovery witnessed by Geo would help a lot to convince people that the LRL works.

            Best wishes,
            J_P

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hung View Post
              You still have a lot to learn about the phenomena and these devices... Come back in say, 4 years maybe?

              Sorry, I don't talk about the obvious anymore. Maybe Esteban still does...
              What i have learnt about the phenomena is that it occurs from a long time burried metal, not a piece of metal on a couch

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              • #37
                Mineoro

                Originally posted by hung View Post
                1 meter?

                Forget it...
                What about 2 meters for fresh gold and 2 km for LTB gold?
                Here's a perfect example of what that baby can do...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDo2...eature=related


                The user even waves goodbye to the armchair moronic skepthics in the end of the show.

                Hey Alex, before talking gizmos as in recent past, you better team up with detectoman. You will learn many things.
                This video not convince me about Mineoro performance.
                When Geo arrive here in the end of august month,he will also report behavior of my 3 MINEORO models working near GOLD medal buried 20 years ago(was my MD test long time ago).
                He also bring with him his LRL´s to see the behavior.
                Hung,we like to put the true here,not LRL fantasies,anyway i know Mineoro work as LRL,but performances to find small gold objects are not good...So,Pistoldetektor is my best LRL,Geo will see it working,all the forum will know i said the true since the begining.

                Regards

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                • #38
                  PD in action

                  Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                  Morgan

                  You need to go with Geo in X location and search for metals and film the recovery. Is not enough testing in your own test field.

                  Regards

                  Esteban
                  This is in our plans but he only stay for 3 days...

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                  • #39
                    PD in action...

                    Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                    This is correct.
                    If you only want your LRL to work for yourself, and you do not care who believes, then it is enough to test in your own field.

                    But if your purpose is to convince other forum readers that your LRL works, then it is not enough to test in your own field.
                    This will only convince you, not the other readers. You must show them something to make them believe.
                    A videotaped treasure recovery witnessed by Geo would help a lot to convince people that the LRL works.

                    Best wishes,
                    J_P
                    I dont believe me and Geo can find treasure with PD during 3 days,but many objects thats for sure we will find.

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                    • #40
                      The phenomena

                      Originally posted by Fred View Post
                      What i have learnt about the phenomena is that it occurs from a long time burried metal, not a piece of metal on a couch
                      The PHENOMENA will be recorded in video when GEO arrive here,HOPE EVERYBODY BELIEVE LRL WITH PD IS REAL !!!
                      He already get the plain tickets
                      The fact that he come here,means he is one of the rare forum members who trust me and believe in Esteban that LRL exist,its reality,IT WORKS.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                        The PHENOMENA will be recorded in video when GEO arrive here,HOPE EVERYBODY BELIEVE LRL WITH PD IS REAL !!!
                        He already get the plain tickets
                        The fact that he come here,means he is one of the rare forum members who trust me and believe in Esteban that LRL exist,its reality,IT WORKS.
                        We eagerly await the results of your tests.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by hung View Post
                          1 meter?

                          Forget it...
                          What about 2 meters for fresh gold and 2 km for LTB gold?
                          Here's a perfect example of what that baby can do...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDo2...eature=related


                          The user even waves goodbye to the armchair moronic skepthics in the end of the show.

                          Hey Alex, before talking gizmos as in recent past, you better team up with detectoman. You will learn many things.
                          Random beeps as always.

                          regards.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                            I dont believe me and Geo can find treasure with PD during 3 days,but many objects thats for sure we will find.
                            Hi Morgan,
                            I will be happy to see videos of Geo finding many objects at long range with the PD and other LRLs. I would like to see the difference in performance of different LRLs before recovering the target. I will anxiously wait for his report in the remote sensing forum.

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                              This video not convince me about Mineoro performance.en Geo arrive here in the end of august month,he will also report behavior of my 3 MINEORO models working near GOLD medal buried 20 years ago(was my MD test long time ago).
                              He also bring with him his LRL´s to see the behavior.
                              Hung,we like to put the true here,not LRL fantasies,anyway i know Mineoro work as LRL,but performances to find small gold objects are not good...So,Pistoldetektor is my best LRL,Geo will see it working,all the forum will know i said the true since the begining.

                              Regards
                              Morgan, you have some info mixed up and I feel I need to clarify this to you.
                              The person in the video owns one FG80 with the GIG. Even the regular FG80 has better sensitivity than your DC. However before the advent of the GIG, the FG80 had trouble in detecting fresh items, unless exact weather conditions were met. I could detect a gold ring at 3 meters once in a hot and dry day, but the detection was not constant. Then came the GIG, which was built in order to create a local ionic/electrostatic ambience to 'excite' the target and enhance detection. This is the one which is featured in the video. He turned the GIG on for the demonstration.

                              Time went by and Damasio and Alonso obviously evolved in their aproach. Then the FG80 Tyon and FG90 were born. Those don't need the GIG anymore as these new devices have a better tuning trough the use of 2 IR T-R leds. The sensitivity evolved tremendously and also the filtering capability as I already reported in tests with the Tyon in this forum.

                              I don't deny that small objects were tough to pinpoint with the Mineoros in the past, although with the right technique and some work it could and can be done. As a matter of fact, Damasio always told me that the main goal of the devices were big treasures at large ranges.
                              The new models have much more precision for small objects tough.

                              As a final note, bear in mind the Tyon has the PD as basis and it's much more advanced as I could check. The PD was a prototype for it.
                              So your comparison with the DC2008 is null. The PD only detects close targets and takes advantage of the regular MD head when pinpointing is required. The Tyon has a much, much more range and also works on extremely high humidities and bad environments which the PD just can't.

                              I say it again. Ask Alonso about the new models. He will tell you.
                              Sorry, but you lack standards of comparisons for the PD when you include the DC2008 which is an old model.
                              Best regards.
                              "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                              • #45
                                PD will change this forum

                                Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                                Hi Morgan,
                                I will be happy to see videos of Geo finding many objects at long range with the PD and other LRLs. I would like to see the difference in performance of different LRLs before recovering the target. I will anxiously wait for his report in the remote sensing forum.

                                Best wishes,
                                J_P
                                Hello

                                Today Geo call me ,we talk by mobile,i dont understand greek language but fortunatly he speak english,so we understand each other,this is good point for to start.

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