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  • #46
    Old model ?

    Originally posted by hung View Post
    Morgan, you have some info mixed up and I feel I need to clarify this to you.
    The person in the video owns one FG80 with the GIG. Even the regular FG80 has better sensitivity than your DC. However before the advent of the GIG, the FG80 had trouble in detecting fresh items, unless exact weather conditions were met. I could detect a gold ring at 3 meters once in a hot and dry day, but the detection was not constant. Then came the GIG, which was built in order to create a local ionic/electrostatic ambience to 'excite' the target and enhance detection. This is the one which is featured in the video. He turned the GIG on for the demonstration.

    Time went by and Damasio and Alonso obviously evolved in their aproach. Then the FG80 Tyon and FG90 were born. Those don't need the GIG anymore as these new devices have a better tuning trough the use of 2 IR T-R leds. The sensitivity evolved tremendously and also the filtering capability as I already reported in tests with the Tyon in this forum.

    I don't deny that small objects were tough to pinpoint with the Mineoros in the past, although with the right technique and some work it could and can be done. As a matter of fact, Damasio always told me that the main goal of the devices were big treasures at large ranges.
    The new models have much more precision for small objects tough.

    As a final note, bear in mind the Tyon has the PD as basis and it's much more advanced as I could check. The PD was a prototype for it.
    So your comparison with the DC2008 is null. The PD only detects close targets and takes advantage of the regular MD head when pinpointing is required. The Tyon has a much, much more range and also works on extremely high humidities and bad environments which the PD just can't.

    I say it again. Ask Alonso about the new models. He will tell you.
    Sorry, but you lack standards of comparisons for the PD when you include the DC2008 which is an old model.
    Best regards.
    Hello Hung

    First of all,the PD can detect SMALL OBJECTS (2m to 6m) and BIG OBJECTS(20m or more).
    If you say my DC2008 is OLD ???remember i buy it not long time ago(2007/200 its already old ? Damasio is growing very fast with Mineoro technology

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Morgan
      Today Geo call me ,we talk by mobile,i dont understand greek language but fortunatly he speak english,so we understand each other,this is good point for to start.


      ...Hello Hung

      First of all,the PD can detect SMALL OBJECTS (2m to 6m) and BIG OBJECTS(20m or more).
      If you say my DC2008 is OLD ???remember i buy it not long time ago(2007/200 its already old ? Damasio is growing very fast with Mineoro technology
      Hi Morgan,
      This is great news! The first time ever, an LRL demonstration for the forum!

      Don't worry about what hung says.
      You can still make videotaped observations of how the different LRLs perform to show the facts, not BS.

      Best wishes to you and Geo,
      J_P

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
        If you say my DC2008 is OLD ???remember i buy it not long time ago(2007/200 its already old ?
        Actually old in comparison with the new models.
        Two years are a lot of time in terms of technology.

        Damasio is growing very fast with Mineoro technology
        Yes, maybe just like PC manufacturers...
        "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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        • #49
          Originally posted by hung View Post
          Then came the GIG, which was built in order to create a local ionic/electrostatic ambience to 'excite' the target and enhance detection
          What sort of nonsense faiiryland physics is this?

          Originally posted by hung View Post
          As a matter of fact, Damasio always told me that the main goal of the devices were big treasures at large ranges.
          The new models have much more precision for small objects tough.
          For example, detecting a square of metal on your sofa ... indoors!
          Perhaps Damasio was referring to wallet mining customers from outside Brazil.
          Attached Files

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Morgan View Post
            The PHENOMENA will be recorded in video when GEO arrive here,HOPE EVERYBODY BELIEVE LRL WITH PD IS REAL !!!
            He already get the plain tickets
            The fact that he come here,means he is one of the rare forum members who trust me and believe in Esteban that LRL exist,its reality,IT WORKS.
            Hey Morgan,
            You have already shot videos with the PD working in your back yard and it clearly shows it detecting your gold medal. Despite of that the skepthics insist in denying the fact and now they want you to shoot another video??

            This is BS. Besides the fact that they don't believe you yet, I bet 10 to 1 that even with Geo there and if you both recover something, still it will prove nothing to them. They will say it was luck or coincidence.
            It's been all like this with the sick skepthics along the time in all forums.

            Believe me, this will not change anything to them. Some of them are even so desperate that they will die if not getting their hands in a working LRL!

            I would suggest that you show the video to the LRL proponents here and SELL a copy to the sketpthics. This would cover all the inconveniences and disbeliefs they have performed against you since the early PD days.

            How's that for a fair deal?
            Regards e 'cuidado para eles não te fazerem de bobo de novo...'
            "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by hung View Post
              Hey Morgan,
              You have already shot videos with the PD working in your back yard and it clearly shows it detecting your gold medal. Despite of that the skepthics insist in denying the fact and now they want you to shoot another video??
              And ... you also shot a video in your bedroom, which turned out to be a very bad fake.

              Originally posted by hung View Post
              This is BS. Besides the fact that they don't believe you yet, I bet 10 to 1 that even with Geo there and if you both recover something, still it will prove nothing to them. They will say it was luck or coincidence.
              There is no substitute for actually being there. No-one else (except Morgan) claims to have created a working clone of the original PD. Your own attempts (and claims) are highly suspect, and therefore cannot be taken at face value, especially since you have zero credibility here. Geo has attempted to build a clone and failed, so it will be interesting to see what he discovers during his visit.

              Originally posted by hung View Post
              It's been all like this with the sick skepthics along the time in all forums.
              Now that's an interesting comment ... and why do you think that is? Perhaps I may suggest that it's because of the bunk you are spreading across the internet. It's going to take some serious debunkering to clear up that mess!

              Originally posted by hung View Post
              Believe me, this will not change anything to them. Some of them are even so desperate that they will die if not getting their hands in a working LRL!
              Dream on ... and keep taking the tablets.

              Originally posted by hung View Post
              I would suggest that you show the video to the LRL proponents here and SELL a copy to the sketpthics. This would cover all the inconveniences and disbeliefs they have performed against you since the early PD days.

              How's that for a fair deal?
              Regards e 'cuidado para eles não te fazerem de bobo de novo...'
              Another wallet-mining opportunity?
              Perhaps it's you who "fazerem de bobo de novo...".

              Stop wasting time and get on with the debunkering.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                You could try heating the device with a hairdryer to see if the performance of the circuit is heat dependent.
                It is not heat dependent.
                Geo

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  Hi Geo,
                  I have read reports that the detection using LRLs can change due to a change of the time of day. According to some reports, a change of 3 hours is enough to change the detection abilities due to changes in a daily cycle that is keyed to the solar and electrical activity in the upper ionosphere which drives the voltage gradient at the surface. the air temperature plays some part in the gradient, but a stronger force was reported due to the daily ionospheric cycle that changes throughout the day, and moves as the earth turns.

                  It would be interesting to make more tests when you see a temperature change over a short period of time to see if your observations are repeated. Also it would be good to make observations when the temperature increases after a few hours. This will tend to confirm the conclusions you reached,

                  But if you observe that the performance of your coil does not follow the same observation of better performance when the temperature is higher, then maybe something else is contributing to the performance improvement.

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P

                  Hi J_P.
                  I will try it again. I just came back from Athens (i was at hospital) and tomorrow night i will go for holidays. I will be back on end of July. So for more tests wait for 2 weeks...

                  Regards
                  Geo

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Fred View Post
                    As long as the device is zeroed constantly i don´t see how components temperature can affect much of his behaviour.

                    Hi Fred.

                    If the temp affect to the phenomenon???

                    Regards
                    Geo

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Geo View Post
                      It is not heat dependent.
                      Good luck with your visit to Morgan.
                      We are all waiting for your full report.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                        Morgan

                        You need to go with Geo in X location and search for metals and film the recovery. Is not enough testing in your own test field.

                        Regards

                        Esteban

                        Hi Esteban.
                        Why is not enough a test at his own test field??? If i will see the PD to working, i will tell here it. If it don't working, i will tell you ...NOT.
                        If someone don't believe me.... it is his problem, not mine. I paid the tickets, hotel and car for to see the PD from Morgan working. I told on this forum if any other of the RS team wants to come with me but not response. Now why i must go to a lot of places to take video of the PD?? We want to learn if PD works ok (if Morgan say the true), and if it is possible to understand why our clone don't work.

                        Regards
                        Geo

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by hung View Post
                          Hey Morgan,
                          You have already shot videos with the PD working in your back yard and it clearly shows it detecting your gold medal. Despite of that the skepthics insist in denying the fact and now they want you to shoot another video??

                          This is BS. Besides the fact that they don't believe you yet, I bet 10 to 1 that even with Geo there and if you both recover something, still it will prove nothing to them. They will say it was luck or coincidence.
                          It's been all like this with the sick skepthics along the time in all forums.

                          Believe me, this will not change anything to them. Some of them are even so desperate that they will die if not getting their hands in a working LRL!

                          I would suggest that you show the video to the LRL proponents here and SELL a copy to the sketpthics. This would cover all the inconveniences and disbeliefs they have performed against you since the early PD days.

                          How's that for a fair deal?
                          Regards e 'cuidado para eles não te fazerem de bobo de novo...'

                          Hi Hung.

                          You have not right.
                          I called the members of RS forum to come with me to test the PD but no one wants to come, or they are busy. So if the PD works good, i want to see who will be he, that will not believe the video!!!!

                          Regards
                          Geo

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                            Good luck with your visit to Morgan.
                            We are all waiting for your full report.
                            Thank you
                            Geo

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                            • #59
                              PD field tests

                              Originally posted by Geo View Post
                              Hi Hung.

                              You have not right.
                              I called the members of RS forum to come with me to test the PD but no one wants to come, or they are busy. So if the PD works good, i want to see who will be he, that will not believe the video!!!!

                              Regards
                              Hello Geo

                              Thanks for calling me yesterday.
                              Dont worry about this,i never let you buy tickets if i tell lies in this forum.
                              I think we will have time to search with PD in new places,lets make some videos for the skeptics.

                              Regards

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                              • #60
                                PD CHALLENGE against other LRL´s

                                [quote=hung;94012]Hey Morgan,
                                You have already shot videos with the PD working in your back yard and it clearly shows it detecting your gold medal. Despite of that the skepthics insist in denying the fact and now they want you to shoot another video??

                                This is BS. Besides the fact that they don't believe you yet, I bet 10 to 1 that even with Geo there and if you both recover something, still it will prove nothing to them. They will say it was luck or coincidence.
                                It's been all like this with the sick skepthics along the time in all forums.

                                Believe me, this will not change anything to them. Some of them are even so desperate that they will die if not getting their hands in a working LRL!
                                Hello Hung

                                As you know i have a challenge,the PD against other LRL´s.
                                I want to see if other LRL can detect the gold medal i put in the ground more than 20 years ago. PD record is 2m-4m ,and i dont think MINEORO can do better,even the TYON.

                                Regards

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