$5,000 Coat Hangers vs Metal Dector Challenge

[J_Player]

Mike Mont already pointed this out early on in the thread. It was clearly nothing to do with Dell. See quote below

Sure Mike pointed it out... and Theseus too. But it still fooled a lot of people who continued making plans to win Dell's $5000.
And yes, it did have something to do with Dell. He changed the context of the contest by naming the thread "$5,000 Coat Hangers vs Metal Dector Challenge", giving the impression that he was challenging metal detectorists.

As you stated, the contest appears to be a challenge by a dowser against electronic LRLs (gold detectors). He would not risk his reputation against a real metal detector, unless the contest could be rigged.

Reputation? What reputation? This person does not even publish his name. And all his stories are simply stories he posted to help sell his dowsing DVDs. What makes you think any of it is true?
Rigged? Did any of his dowsing stories ever happen in the first place? Will he even hold a contest that would necessitate rigging?

There are numerous devious methods of rigging the contest. That's why controlled double-blind testing is essential.

Contest? What contest? This is just something he posted in his blog to help sell dowsing lesson DVDs. You really believe he will agree to hold a contest? If he intended to hold a contest, he would first have to publish his name with a way to contact him, and a location for the test, wouldn't he?

Hypothetical scenario:
Suppose there was a poverty stricken old man who tried everything short of working to earn a living. After trying all the get rich schemes he still ended up nearly homeless. So he reads about the money you can make in drop-shipping internet sales. After a few years, he decides he wants to make more money than the deal he gets from the drop-shipper. So he hires an actor to pose as a dowser for tons of pictures in every imaginable situation where a dowser finds the hidden object and wins prizes, etc. And he has a friend help make up a DVD on how to dowse, using the actor to play the role of the dowser. Then he makes a website to sell the DVDs. He fills it with a lot of stories designed to make a reader drool over the power of dowsing, and adds a blog with more stories, etc. The he begins to see the money come in, and his only overhead is sending out DVDs. Of course, he will never publish his real name to send inquiries to, and will never give a true location of where he is. All the product is sent by someone else who handles his DVD-burning and shipping from a remote location...He simply checks his P.O. box every week to pick up checks forwarded from the shipper. Can you think of anyone who is poverty stricken that might want to try this?


p.s. Closer examination shows that the shipping location is Toronto, Kansas. So it appears he is not a Canadian, but an American who ships his goods from Kansas.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

Dell likes to play

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

I will challenge any gold hunter using an electronic detector, against my two coat hangers. How confident am I? $5,000. The challenge: a third party will hide a small gold nugget somewhere on a football field, placing it two inches deep by pounding a wooden rod into the ground. The first to uncover the gold nugget is the winner. The event will be video tapped. Email me if you are up to the challeng

http://www.dowselikeapro.com/My_Blog.html

The question is why did dell post this.
He wanted us to think HE wants to do this.
ALL I DID WAS CALL HIM OUT ON THIS.
BUT NO DELL
OK so do you want to do this DELL or what?

[Qiaozhi]

The question is why did dell post this.
He wanted us to think HE wants to do this.
ALL I DID WAS CALL HIM OUT ON THIS.
BUT NO DELL
OK so do you want to do this DELL or what?

Maybe he's too busy burning DVDs ready for posting!

[Theseus]

A different motive...

Dell has always been one to use forum postings to advertise his wares. Not just this forum, but any forum that picks up a little traffic on the subject of dowsing.

I propose his motive for starting this thread, and with the wording he did, was nothing more than another of his schemes to get some free advertising by having every one here mention his name in a series of postings.

I'd say his scheme worked rather well.

He may have only a 6th grade education (or less) but he is certainly no fool. While his direct competition, in the LRL/MFD scam dowsing device market, spend thousands of dollars on websites and website designers; to attract more sales - Dell has always garnered his share of the market by haunting dowsing and LRL/MFD forums.

With the exception of Mike(Mont) and Tim Williams (a couple of wanna be's), you really don't see any other manfacturer/dealers pushing their wares on the aforementioned forums. Clearly, different strategies for different marketeers.

[Dell Winders]

On the other forums I posted, I seen how it might be construed, so I went back and modified to read I saw this on the internet. Unfortunately, on this forum it was too late to modify.

I did mistakenly credit folks here with the intelligence to click on the link to get the details before they leaped to conclusions. That was the error in my thinking.

Honestly, I did get a big laugh at the pretenders who claim to adhere to fact, jumping all over each other with their assumptions. It didn't add any credibility to your interest in research, truth, or fact, but I did enjoy watching your antics. Thanks for that!

And so it is, and always will be with the Skeptic clan, and Carl's forum. dell

[Max]

On the other forums I posted, I seen how it might be construed, so I went back and modified to read I saw this on the internet. Unfortunately, on this forum it was too late to modify.

I did mistakenly credit folks here with the intelligence to click on the link to get the details before they leaped to conclusions. That was the error in my thinking.

Honestly, I did get a big laugh at the pretenders who claim to adhere to fact, jumping all over each other with their assumptions. It didn't add any credibility to your interest in research, truth, or fact, but I did enjoy watching your antics. Thanks for that!

And so it is, and always will be with the Skeptic clan, and Carl's forum. dell

You can laugh as you want...

but people here know that your paint rollers don't work for c.r.a.p.

Then... you can also post what you want... and people could made wrong conclusions... why not ?

But this, again, is a proof you're full of c.r.a.p from your hairs tips to your shoes...

just to be polite...

Kind regards,
Max

[Jim]

Why lie about it, Dell? You clearly posted this version on TreasureNet, with the proper internet credit, before posting here

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,258789.0.html

Posted Jul 19, 2009, 01:25:28 AM

Found on the internet. Dell

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

[Theseus]

Why lie about it, Dell? You clearly posted this version on TreasureNet, with the proper internet credit, before posting here

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,258789.0.html

Posted Jul 19, 2009, 01:25:28 AM

Found on the internet. Dell

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

Why lie about it? Because it is basically the only knee-jerk response he knows; and executes without even thinking twice about it.

Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

[J_Player]

Why lie about it, Dell? You clearly posted this version on TreasureNet, with the proper internet credit, before posting here

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,258789.0.html

Posted Jul 19, 2009, 01:25:28 AM

Found on the internet. Dell

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

Yup, Dell sure did post the same on Treasure net, and it ain't been changed. Looks like Dell got a good laugh.

Honestly, I did get a big laugh at the pretenders who claim to adhere to fact, jumping all over each other with their assumptions. It didn't add any credibility to your interest in research, truth, or fact, but I did enjoy watching your antics. Thanks for that!

Good thing we figgered out Dell's trick before running off to Florida to win the $5000, or we would see him laughing even harder at the side of the football field. Maybe he would take his binoculars and camera to the bleachers to see who showed up, then post the photos on his website so all his friends can laugh too.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

On the other forums I posted, I seen how it might be construed, so I went back and modified to read I saw this on the internet. Unfortunately, on this forum it was too late to modify.

I did mistakenly credit folks here with the intelligence to click on the link to get the details before they leaped to conclusions. That was the error in my thinking.

Honestly, I did get a big laugh at the pretenders who claim to adhere to fact, jumping all over each other with their assumptions. It didn't add any credibility to your interest in research, truth, or fact, but I did enjoy watching your antics. Thanks for that!

And so it is, and always will be with the Skeptic clan, and Carl's forum. dell

Why lie about it, Dell? You clearly posted this version on TreasureNet, with the proper internet credit, before posting here

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,258789.0.html

Posted Jul 19, 2009, 01:25:28 AM

Found on the internet. Dell

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

Dell - you've been busted!