getting rid of the rods

[kim]

i have a mfd long range locator and i like it except for having to use the rods to pick up the signal...is there anyone out there that has a schematic for an electronic device that will pick up the signal...thank you

[hank]

Re: getting rid of the rods

sorry to break the news to you, but an mfd LRL is really nothing more than a dowsing thing. you would find just as much if you kept a hold of the rods and threw the little mfd box away. since what you are doing with an mfd LRL is dowsing the guys in the know will tell you that you need something called an ideomotor response for the whole thing to work. i suppose someone could build a little electric box to tell you when your hand was tipping or not, but it's just as easy to get the response from the L-rods and a lot cheaper. that's why every mfd that is sold comes with a pair of L-rods. hope you didn't pay too much for the thing.

[kim]

Re: getting rid of the rods

what is a idoemotor?

[hank]

Re: getting rid of the rods

best thing I can do is tell you to go read about it.

http://skepdic.com/dowsing.html

there are a bunch of informations on the internet about it.

[Carl]

Re: getting rid of the rods

The whole concept of MFD, and signal lines, is completely bogus, made up by people who wanted to add "technology" to dowsing rods, and sell them for a mighty nice profit.

I call this "wallet mining," and those who practice it are phenomenally more successful than the people they sell to. Read my LRL Q&A for more information.

- Carl

[g-sani]

The dowsers mind is the technology behind the rods.It is many people around that if they were given the right lessons they would be able to dowse succesfully.But you can understand what it could happen then.
If dowsing doesn't exist how can be known to man since ancient time?
It must be some truth out there and my self I well know that but I also understood that they don't want it available for everybody.
It is very close the time that science will accept that dowsing exists and that it works as well.
To come back to our thread now
<getting rid of the rods> is one big step for a dowser.Good ones don't really need them.
Some persons can do it whithout them but they don't want anybody to know.
Why?
All sorts of problems could come up just think about it for a while.
Anyway I can not prove that what I am saying is true but that day will come up shortly for sure and then we will go back remembering what our beliefs were in the past.
Ain't all things for everybody anyway, and that includes me as well.

[Mike(Mont)]

Dell Winders was going to market an electronic receiver several years ago. He says the rods work better due to variable conditions. Vernell Electronics sells a couple different models. They still take lots of practice and are subject to interference. There is no turn-on-and-beep receiver that I know of.

[Max]

Dell Winders was going to market an electronic receiver several years ago. He says the rods work better due to variable conditions. Vernell Electronics sells a couple different models. They still take lots of practice and are subject to interference. There is no turn-on-and-beep receiver that I know of.

Uhm... with hot glue inside ?

The fact is not a turn-and-go machine it's just cause already found the treasure (in the wallet of customer)! No need to signal anymore!

Are just bunch of components... hot glue... plastic and metal: you'll not find anything good with these... apart a big disappointment, possibly depression ?

Anyway... who buy one,for the purpose they're advertised, is a total fool ... so, expecially cause here people tell all the time that these things don't work, can't work... so you wanna buy anyway !?
OK... then say goodbye to your money and treasure dreams and face up reality!

Kind regards,
Max

[g-sani]

Here is somebody that uses a receiver to get the signal instead of rods.
You can see the receiver on the left handside of the page.

http://www.thortech.org/en/

Mind you sometimes their webpage doesn't open at all.If you are lucky sometime you will go further and be able to open the page under the heading <Instruments> on the left again.There they explain how their Rx works and they are saying that you will be able to go straight on target.
They give specs for both Tx and Rx.
Once we went out treasure hunting with somebody that had a similar device over here in Greece.He told me that it was a cheaper patent of the equipment that thotech make.I was surprised to see that it was working and that was the first time in my life that we found something using an LRL.

[Qiaozhi]

The dowsers mind is the technology behind the rods.

In a way, you are quite correct. The rods do absolutely nothing, except detect gravity. The whole "technology" (as you put it) is going on in the mind of the dowser. The ideomotor effect is a "trick of the mind". It's a psychological phenomenon whereby the dowser makes unconscious movements of the hand, and fools the conscious mind into believing there is a relationship between the twitching rod and buried treasure. Many empty holes can be found by this method.

If dowsing doesn't exist how can be known to man since ancient time?

The same reasons why reading palms or tea leaves or animal entrails have fooled people for centuries into believing there is a relationship between these activities and real life, when there is none.

Here is somebody that uses a receiver to get the signal instead of rods.
You can see the receiver on the left handside of the page.

http://www.thortech.org/en/

Mind you sometimes their webpage doesn't open at all.If you are lucky sometime you will go further and be able to open the page under the heading <Instruments> on the left again.There they explain how their Rx works and they are saying that you will be able to go straight on target.
They give specs for both Tx and Rx.
Once we went out treasure hunting with somebody that had a similar device over here in Greece.He told me that it was a cheaper patent of the equipment that thotech make.I was surprised to see that it was working and that was the first time in my life that we found something using an LRL.

This is another attempt to separate the unwary from the contents of their wallets. If you want to waste time reading this nonsense, then try this link -> http://www.thortech.org/en/treasure-instruments.html
They are not even capable of creating a simple html link to the correct webpage. All of their links contain an extra "thortech" in the path. Simply remove it, and you can gain access.

[Mike(Mont)]

An L-rod is a wave guide for your thought energy. More than that it aligns itself with the lines of force. Yes, there is a balance that the user feels when the rod aligns. Whether this is due completely to outside forces (force field), or the user senses the balance and reacts subconsciously, or a combination of the two (most likely) is up for conjecture. But for a non-dowser to state categorically that there is no effect is not accurate. I guess if they say it enough to themself they will believe it.

[Mike(Mont)]

It's common sense that the nervous system picks up a much wider range of frequencies than the five senses. The mind has been programmed to ignore these. The hardest part of dowsing is to still the mind of these programs that limit your awareness. I've been reading a bit about emotions. These are force fields that are not easy to detect scientifically. GSR units can help (galvanic skin response measures skin resistance which is nearly instantaneous).

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm not saying this to belittle anyone, but just hook yourself up to a GSR, pick up an L-rod, and watch the thing skyrocket from your stress level. I learned to dowse with the help of a GSR hooked up to a black box. I've mentioned this many times and I just wonder if anyone here has ever used one for dowsing. I bought a small unit a while back. It has a sensor that straps to the palm of your hand and several LED's and levels. I have found the sensors hard to get just right. Cold or dry hands can be a problem. Some people use a heated glove. There are many different type of stress feedback units available. I think something like this should be mandatory equipment for anyone who is trying to learn. It don't take no Miss Cleo to see some people here need one BADLY. It can't hurt to lower your bloodpressure.

[Fred]

...Many empty holes can be found by this method...

Not quite, and that´s the problem: actualy what you find is full holes, you have to empty them by yourself !

[Max]

I'm not saying this to belittle anyone, but just hook yourself up to a GSR, pick up an L-rod, and watch the thing skyrocket from your stress level. I learned to dowse with the help of a GSR hooked up to a black box. I've mentioned this many times and I just wonder if anyone here has ever used one for dowsing. I bought a small unit a while back. It has a sensor that straps to the palm of your hand and several LED's and levels. I have found the sensors hard to get just right. Cold or dry hands can be a problem. Some people use a heated glove. There are many different type of stress feedback units available. I think something like this should be mandatory equipment for anyone who is trying to learn. It don't take no Miss Cleo to see some people here need one BADLY. It can't hurt to lower your bloodpressure.

"Some people use a heated glove."



I see... so... at the end, you're disclosing all your secrets here!?

Kinda of outing!

What about your old baseball glove ??? Don't know why...but I'm sure you love it!

Kind regards,
Max